Joshua Citarella, Interdependence, New Models
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Jul 5, 2026
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Memes as Politics: Episode 06: So Much for the Tolerant Tech 26.07.2020 52:16
Use code “JOSH" for Wayfair discount, Posadism (real) , Tumblr tactics for the revolution, breadcrumbs in the pipeline, “weak signals” , Dunbar’s number, Harper’s Letter = Socialism, major bans & retroactive hate speech? , Peepee-propertarianism, CIA sabotage, Chomsky is the real red pill + a special guest cameo by Paul Joseph Watson
Interdependence 12: Larisa Kingston Mann (DJ Ripley) 22.07.2020 1:35:12
For this episode we welcome academic and DJ Larisa Kingston Mann from Temple University in Philadelphia, whose work analyzes the relationship between law, technology, sovereignty and creativity, especially focusing on the ways changing media technologies affect communities’ ability to flourish Her PhD thesis “Rude Citizenship”, soon to be turned into a book, looks at the ways in which Jamaican pop...
EP 29: SAD FROG (Arthur Jones & Giorgio Angelini) 19.07.2020 1:17:32
We speak with ARTHUR JONES & GIORGIO ANGELINI, filmmakers of "FEELS GOOD MAN," which tells the story of comic artist Matt Furie and the wild journey of his character Pepe the Frog. Yet this set up is also a lens for telling an even broader and deeper story of the past two decades: one that spans intergenerational communication, magic and media, anti-authoritarian rebellion, and the volatility of s...
My Political Journey: Ian 15.07.2020 39:50
My guest this week is a 20 year old who started out on /leftypol/ in 2016 and joined a real world organization in 2019.
Interdependence 11: Tim Maughan (Infinite Detail) 14.07.2020 1:41:31
Since the idea of this podcast first came to mind, we had imagined starting a thread of conversations with fiction authors and artists that in many ways touch on some of issues that we might be exploring in other conversations. Today we are thrilled to kick off this direction with a conversation with Tim Maughan, the author of Infinite Detail, winner of The Guardians best science fiction and fan...
EP 28: TAKE IT, IT'S YOURS (Joshua Clover) 11.07.2020 59:15
We are joined by UC Davis professor of literature and critical theory, JOSHUA CLOVER, who is also a communist and the author of several books including RIOT STRIKE RIOT: THE NEW ERA OF UPRISINGS (Verso, 2016). This conversation begins with the street protests that have erupted across the US in response to the murders of George Floyd, Breonna Taylor and so many other black Americans at the hands of...
Interdependence 10: Tom Gray (PRS #brokenrecord) 07.07.2020 1:52:55
This week we talk to Director at PRS for music and Gomez songwriter Tom Gray, who, through the #brokenrecord hashtag and other advocacy work has been championing the need for reform the way that streaming services work, and reform copyright policy to better protect songwriters and producers. We discuss the case for user centric streaming over the current pro-rata payment model, what is was like to...
Interdependence 9: David Turner (Penny Fractions) 30.06.2020 1:55:20
In this episode we welcome David Turner, writer and founder of the Penny Fractions newsletter, which holds a critical and often political lens to the latest developments in the music industry. In this episode we discuss the music industry response to Black Lives Matter, positive infrastructural proposals that could lead to long lasting and meaningful diversification, the meme music economy, lesson...
Memes as Politics: Episode 05: Temporary Autonomous Big Igloo with Tankie Characteristics 28.06.2020 53:36
Exposing the Emerald Empire (real), conspiracy tiers, Z-bellion , "big-igloo" gang, journo-bait, Hawaiian shirt nationalism, police & protestors on the same side???, CHAZ/CHOP , civil war 2.1, kink-shaming furries, taking the China-pill , flash-in-the-pan activism, anti-moralizer aktion , Adolph Reed vs the DSA, dissident right looking at the anti-woke left.
Interdependence 8: Kate Crawford (AI Now) 23.06.2020 1:51:19
In this episode we speak with Kate Crawford, founder of the AI Now Institute and professor who has spent the last decade studying the political implications of data systems, machine learning and artificial intelligence. We discuss the anatomy of AI systems and full ecosystem of human and material resources behind an Amazon echo, the need to develop an understanding of the exponential accumulation...
EP 27: TREND CONSOLING (Thom Bettridge) 18.06.2020 1:10:20
We speak with High Snobiety editor-in-chief, THOM BETTRIDGE about content production, retail circulation, and celebrity in 2020. Thom has extensive experience working in media and creative consulting, including, among other things, having served as the executive editor of Interview magazine and of 032c, as well as the managing editor for the creation of the SSENSE editorial platform. He is also ve...
Interdependence 7 : Glen Weyl (RadicalxChange) 17.06.2020 1:26:08
In this episode we speak to Glen Weyl, author, economist and Principal Research at Microsoft Research. His ideas inspired the formation of the Radical X Change Foundation, who are holding a conference this weekend from June 19-21 I would recommend you check out. If you are interested in following the conference, in which we are speaking alongside Audrey Tang, Digital Minister or Taiwan, Vitalik Bu...
My Political Journey: ~R 13.06.2020 26:57
My guest this week is a 16 year old who self-identified as an Eco-fascist in 2018 and is now an Anarcho-communist.
Interdependence 6 - Professor Guy Standing 09.06.2020 1:26:48
In this latest episode we talk with Professor Guy Standing, who has been at the forefront of Basic Income research for 30 years, running pilots all over the world. We discuss his original concept of “The Precariat”, a new class that might be familiar to many listeners, the moral case for a basic income and its fans in US politics and Silicon Valley, and his vision of a future of a new left built...
**PRIVATE RSS** Interdependence 5 - Liz Pelly 03.06.2020 1:42:55
In this episode we speak with the writer Liz Pelly, who over the past 5 years has written a series of revelatory critical pieces about the streaming economy for The Baffler. We discuss whether the distinction of Independence is all that useful in music at this point in history, take a look at the ways in which the streaming platforms flatter some kinds of music and have flattered to deceive for ot...
Memes as Politics: Episode 04: Triangle Theory?!? 29.05.2020 58:03
Kim Yo Jong erotic fiction , Brad Troemel’s Joe Biden meme “ His Brain? No. His Heart. ” , Chart of Truth, Elon Musk red pill post, Instagram mass bans, “ The Slow Red Pill ”, K-populism?, Biden weighs in on the great replacement & cultural marxism :yikes :, Horseshoe theory vs Triangle theory , Doug Henwood lives to post another day.
NM Special Report: GEORGE FLOYD, MINNEAPOLIS UNREST w/ STEVE MARSH 29.05.2020 20:09
Writer Steve Marsh [https://twitter.com/stephenhero] joins us from a Minneapolis swelling with unrest to give details and context to the life and death of George Floyd (aka Big Floyd), and the history of the police department that murdered him. TAKE ACTION Support the family of George Floyd: https://www.gofundme.com/f/georgefloyd Black Visions MN (black activists and organizers local to ME/twin ci...
**PRIVATE RSS** Interdependence 4 - Jesse Engel (Google Magenta) 26.05.2020 1:35:24
In this episode we talk with Jesse Engel, musician, Senior Research Scientist at Google Brain and creative lead of the Magenta project. Magenta is an open source research project exploring the role of machine learning as a tool in the creative process, developed by numerous researchers and engineers from the Google brain team, Google’s self directed machine intelligence group. Amongst many thing...
*Private RSS* Interdependence 3 - Trevor McFedries (Brud / Lil Miquela) 19.05.2020 1:30:30
In this episode we catch up with Trevor McFedries, founder of the meta media studio Brud ( brud.fyi ), whose digital avatar artist and influencer Lil Miquela recently caused a stir through signing with one of the worlds premier talent agencies, CAA. We discuss the origins of the project, why he sees Miquela as more of a challenge to Mickey Mouse than human artists, and also some pretty bold ideas...
Discourse: Francis Tseng on the Future of Mining 15.05.2020 57:18
Mineral depletion, sacrifice zones, deep sea & outer space. Francis Tseng visits the stream to discuss his recent paper "Inside-Out: Renewable Energy, the Future of Mining, and the Re-localization of Harm". Follow his work on Twitter: @frnsys Visit his website: https://frnsys.com/
Interdependence 2: AI and Music with François Pachet & Benoit Carré 12.05.2020 1:22:10
We are joined by research scientist and Director of Spotify's CTRL lab François Pachet and his collaborator, the composer Benoit Carré to discuss how the latest in AI research offers a new paradigm for both composition and the concept of authorship and ownership. This will be one of many times we pursue conversations with researchers at the cutting edge of Artificial Intelligence and music, not o...
EP 26: REMOTE LEARNING (Nora Khan) 08.05.2020 1:04:13
Writer and theorist NORA KHAN speaks with New Models about how institutional power reifies itself online, COVID aesthetics, and the labor pressures of distance working/socializing/learning via platforms such as Zoom. Nora is the author, most recently, of Seeing, Naming, Knowing (Brooklyn Rail Press, 2019) on mass surveillance and 'machine visual culture.' For more: https://noranahidkhan.com/ https...
Interdependence 1: Evgeny Morozov 04.05.2020 54:09
Evgeny Morozov joins to discuss COVID solutionism, left imagination and organizing the world's information with The Syllabus. Episode Notes If you are interested in reading Evgeny's new piece in the Guardian, visit: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/15/tech-coronavirus-surveilance-state-digital-disrupt Sign up to Evgeny's Syllabus project to receive a weekly syllabi curated around...
EP 25: LIFE GO BRRR (Venkatesh Rao) 26.04.2020 1:05:52
Writer, consultant, and Ribbon Farm founder VENKATESH RAO speaks with New Models about memetics & institutions, virality & democracy, Log Level thinking, BIOS Level politics, and how to navigate reality in a time when we're all NPCs in a world going "brrrrrrrrr.” ⛓️This conversation was recorded April 7th, 2020. FOR MORE: https://twitter.com/vgr https://venkateshrao.com/ https://breakingsmart.com/...
Memes as Politics: Ep 03: Post-conspiratorial Techno-reclusive Exit 24.04.2020 52:16
Zero tolerance policy for libertarians, TFW no gf? selling 3D printed guns to pay for-- its *technically* hebephilia REEEEEEEE!!!!! S to spit, NYC mass grave, Quarantine protests (Deleuze still not explained), political TikTok, is Twitter the One-World-Government?? , corporate democrat theater, FKD: far right terrorist organization is led by a 13 year old in Estonia, bad Bernie takes & confirm...
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