Joshua Citarella, Interdependence, New Models
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Jul 5, 2026
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My Political Journey: Vil 18.11.2020 32:00
My guest is a 17 year old Marxist.
Pharmako-AI: co-writing with an AI and navigating the dark hallways of the mind with K Allado-McDowell (and GPT-3) 17.11.2020 1:35:40
In the advent of their new book “Pharmako-AI”, co-written with OpenAI’s GPT-3 system, we speak to K Allado-McDowell (and GPT-3) about creating with an inhuman (and a human), the nature and history of intelligence, and focussing art and technology towards healing. K Allado-McDowell is a writer, speaker, and musician. They are the author, with GPT-3, of the book Pharmako-AI , and are co-editor, with...
Good Elitism and The New Philistinism with Eliane Glaser 11.11.2020 1:48:06
Crazy week eh ;P Let's talk about elitism. Also, buy Eliane's incredible book Elitism: A Progressive Defense https://www.bitebackpublishing.com/books/elitism-a-progressive-defence
Platform co-ops and illusory democratisation with Nathan Schneider 06.11.2020 1:05:56
Hi everyone Well what a week! Sorry this is a little late, it felt a little weird to release an episode during the election - but we didn’t expect for it to drag on this much! In this episode we welcome Nathan Schneider, professor of media studies at the University of Colorado Boulder , significant player in the platform co-operativism movement and the originator of the term “exit to community” W...
Memes as Politics: Episode 09: Post-internet Neo-nothing 02.11.2020 50:43
mini Chart of Truth (do not research), long tail politics, 5th position, @jonrafmancellectuals, platform capitalist realism, the Trotskyist to Neocon pipeline (real)
Anarchist UBI and weird fatigue with Sarah Friend (Circles UBI) 28.10.2020 1:33:52
We join Sarah Friend, core developer from talk-of-the-town project Circles UBI to discuss the crazy few weeks they have been having trying to give away a UBI through social trust networks. We pull apart how the project works and discuss the history of local currencies, potential dystopian scenarios, "weird fatigue" and the turbulence of pursuing an art practice that involves building things that d...
Artist tokens, Community Owned Institutions and the Reliance Alliance with ZORA 15.10.2020 1:46:37
Hi everyone! This week we welcome Dee and Jacob from Zora, a new organisation that is building tools for artists to issue tokens around their creative practices. We discuss their idea of dynamic pricing of art releases and at the advent of the musician RAC releasing his $RAC token through ZORA, the new space of artists and their audiences owning a stake in the value they interdependently create in...
My Political Journey: ~C 14.10.2020 30:10
My guest is a 16 year old who fell into a cycle of self-harm and right-wing radicalization on YouTube. He spent ages 12 - 14 immersed in conservative content online. Thanks to the positive influence of his sibling and a painful process of self-discovery, he has now joined the left.
Collaborating with the dead, Hildegard of Bingen, genius and villainy with Huw Lemmey (Bad Gays) 07.10.2020 1:57:25
This week we are thrilled to welcome the author and critic Huw Lemmey in celebration of his new novel Unknown Language , written in collaboration with Hildegard of Bingen and out now on Ignota books We discuss what it is like to channel the dead and write a novel together, Hildegard's visions and genius, constructed languages, and Bad Gays; Huw’s wonderful podcast with the historian Ben Miller. We...
This is All Happening Right Now: Solarpunk, cultural fracking and the real Jurassic Park with Jay Springett 30.09.2020 1:45:29
Back with a conversation with a special person and close friend of the podcast Jay Springett Jay is a writer, theorist and podcaster who falls into a special category of people where we can say with some confidence that whatever they are thinking about will be commonplace in a few years. We discuss a passion of his, Solarpunk, cultural fracking, universe construction, permaculture, Russia’s real...
Memes as Politics: Episode 08: How to Plant a Meme 28.09.2020 52:46
My Antifa Lover , year 1 of collapse, Netflix is a biblical plague, email @ usps.gov, notes on my article in The Guardian , Biden depoliticization in 3, 2, 1.., Destiny de-partnered? , memetic inception + tactics , :salute: Andrew Shuta for spotting the Cap Realism quote, deep down we all know Finland is best country.
What would a new club economy look like? Part 2 with Richie Hawtin 22.09.2020 1:07:06
The second part of our discussion facilitated in collaboration with Sonar +D and Ars Electronica. Particularly excited to share this one, where we reflect upon what foundations of the club economy appear to be most exposed by the current crisis, discuss Richie's work with AFEM to help get producers paid, and speculate on the possibility of new and necessary economic relationships between DJ's and...
NM READS 01: Reinaldo Laddaga's "A Coney Island of the Virus" 22.09.2020 23:28
"A CONEY ISLAND OF THE VIRUS: COVID-19 IN NEW YORK" is an essay by the New York-based, Argentinean writer REINALDO LADDAGA, excerpted from a book he is writing about Covid-19 & NYC. The essay tells of physical geography, strategic cartography, and one city's urban planning as death machine on the generational timescale. https://newmodels.io/proprietary/coney-island-of-the-virus-reinaldo-laddaga Fo...
AI for Humans with Richie Hawtin (Part 1 of 2) 16.09.2020 1:07:05
Hey everyone, happy to post the first of a two part discussion with legendary electronic music figure Richie Hawtin. This conversation was facilitated in collaboration with Sonar +D and Ars Electronica, and video of the second part of our discussion covering proposals for an interdependent club music economy can be streamed live at 18:30 CEST this Friday as part of Sonar +D's online programming. A...
Squad Wealth with Other Internet 10.09.2020 1:40:15
Really happy to welcome Other Internet to the podcast, an independent strategy and research squad based between New York and Berlin. Their recent essay “Squad Wealth” looks at the phenomenon of interdependent squads emerging on the internet as a necessary progression from the atomized independence economy. We discuss Squad Wealth and their other incredibly useful conception of Headless Brands, the...
My Political Journey: Uber Gecko 09.09.2020 34:48
My guest is an anarcho-capitalist.
Cyberpunk, Difference Engines and Mad Madge with Bruce Sterling 01.09.2020 1:59:11
Hello everyone If my voice is more reverberant than usual its because this is beaming from our new studio, which currently has no furniture, no electricity and no internet! We are hoping eventually to establish one or two of those things, and maybe even host some of these conversations live once we are all allowed to occupy space together again. In the near term, the good news is we have a new e...
EP 30: HARM REDUCTION (Katharine Neill Harris) 31.08.2020 1:18:33
Fellow in Drug Policy at Rice University’s Baker Institute for Public Policy, KATHARINE NEILL HARRIS speaks to New Models from Texas about: substance use in America from Prohibition to the War on Drugs; the political and economic incentives for the most damaging policing policies; some surprising problems with body cameras and other tech solutionist fixes; and how all of this fundamentally reinfor...
Memes as Politics: Episode 07: Harm Maximization 30.08.2020 51:42
the Killstream to Whats Left pipeline ?, political refraction, don't hide your power level , fin-tech-dem-soc, politicization funnels , anarchists deplatformed (RIP), DNC coffin dance, Q&A , glowposting, memes > news, socialism w/o nationalism , monarcho-syndicalism, class spirituality?, Biden/acc , morality vs. scalability, blackpilled again .
German Funding of the American Avant Garde with Amy C. Beal 19.08.2020 1:46:06
Sorry this one came late! We are working hard to meet the weekly schedule and this week was a bit of a slog! This week we are thrilled to bring a conversation with Amy C. Beal from UC Santa Cruz, whose book "New Music New Allies: Experimental Music in West Germany from the Zero Hour to Reunification" not only gives us insight into the role that German state funding has played in American experime...
My Political Journey: Cyber J 12.08.2020 40:51
My guest this week is a 22 year old who became politicized in 2017 and is now a Neo-reactionary.
Interdependent artist payments and live streaming through COVID-19 with Nico Perez (Mixcloud) 11.08.2020 1:35:21
It’s a hot one! This afternoon recorded a discussion with Mixcloud CEO and DJ Nico Perez, and our studio was so hot that we had to keep all the windows open for our own health and also to keep the laptop from spontaneously combusting! As a result this recording is resplendent with the occasional child screaming or dog barking, but hopefully that adds to the experience :) Nico joined us to discus...
Interdependence 14: Jesse Walden (Variant Fund) 04.08.2020 1:33:22
This week we welcome Jesse Walden, who recently announced the launch of Variant Fund, which looks to support what he describes as “The Ownership Economy”. We discuss Jesse’s background as an artist manager, his early experiments with putting tools into artists hands to control the destiny of their work online, the opportunities that decentralised networks offer to help us transition from the centr...
EXCERPT // NM TopSoil 41: SLIDE TO THE LEFT (Feat. Michelle Lhooq) 01.08.2020 41:10
Journalist MICHELLE LHOOQ calls into the pod with a report from the NYC STREETS (note: audio for this part of the ep recorded with available equipment/bandwidth). We discuss AUTONOMOUS ZONES and GENERATIONAL KNOWLEDGE. Plus: LILNET reads current dissent toward law enforcement as a GROWING MOTION TO DELEGITIMIZE THE LARGER STATE, CARLY cites the EVILS of UR-VIRTUOUS VICTORIAN ENGLAND, and DAN consi...
Interdependence 13 w/ Elvia Wilk (Oval) 28.07.2020 1:44:21
For the second part of our conversation series with contemporary fiction writers we are over the moon to have a chat with Elvia Wilk, who released her debut novel “Oval” last year to great acclaim. Oval is a beautiful book that depicts a world at vastly different scales, not least addressing the contemporary role of the artist as embedded in wider economic systems. We discuss how art communities i...
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