Joshua Citarella, Interdependence, New Models
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Jul 5, 2026
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NM GREENROOM Ep 2: LYRA PRAMUK discusses "FOUNTAIN" 05.04.2020 1:01:08
The Berlin-based musician LYRA PRAMUK (@lyra_songs) talks to New Models about the release of her 2020 album "Fountain" (@bedroomcommunity). For full post: https://newmodels.io/proprietary/nm-greenroom-lyra-pramuk-fountain For more: https://www.instagram.com/lyra.pramuk/ https://lyrapramuk.bandcamp.com/album/fountain Note: New Models GREENROOM, is a series of short interviews featuring artists and...
EP 24: IT'S ALL POSSIBLE (TrueAnon's Liz Franczak) 31.03.2020 1:12:32
Berkeley-based writer and co-host of the wildly popular anti-corruption podcast TrueAnon, LIZ FRANCZAK joins New Models for a cathartic reflection on pandemic politics and the pros, cons, and probability of popular revolt. This conversation was recorded March 25th. FOR MORE: https://twitter.com/liz_franczak https://www.patreon.com/TrueAnonPod https://thebaffler.com/salvos/the-century-of-spin-franc...
[PART 1] // NM TopSoil EP 32: SILENT CARRY(MIAMI/LA/DFW/NYC/METAVERSE) 28.03.2020 1:07:15
TopSoil is New Models' informal talk-core cast. For the full episode (plus the 31 eps before it) and to join our Discord: patreon.com/newmodels ----- Geographer STEPHANIE WAKEFIELD, trend forecaster SEAN MONAHAN, dad-artist-grocery store insider JEAN-LUC VILA, writer NATASHA STAGG, and deep systems researcher CADE check in with the NEW MODELS crew, reporting from their respective Corona quars. ALS...
Memes as Politics: Ep 02: the Black Pill 21.03.2020 52:59
It’s happening , CV-19 UBI, mansplaining Neoliberalism, MIO super pac, rethinking the Left, Trump paving the way to Nordic Socialism in the US ?, possible Biden victory, Zizek’s 4-party system (bright-red republicans vs purple NPCs vs deep-blue democrats), missing essential carbon windows, the end of liberal democracy , I just want to grill for god’s sake. Listen live at Montez Press Radio ( https...
EP 23: DIS-EASE (Mariam Ghani & Marisa Mazria Katz) 05.03.2020 38:01
Artist and writer MARIAM GHANI and Editorial Director of Eyebeam, MARISA MAZRIA KATZ speak to New Models about Ghani's new work Dis-Ease, a forthcoming essay-film that considers how the metaphors we use to speak about illness and contagion affect the ways in which we prepare and respond to epidemics and treat those afflicted and affected by them. This podcast is part of New Models' series for TENT...
Memes as Politics: Ep 01: the Take Treadmill 03.03.2020 55:30
Guest Mike Pepi . Beware the Take Treadmill , the " Deep DNC " (is it real?), memes = best political analysis, 4chan for Bloomberg (yes it's real), how the disappearing center will remap the art world , building a big tent (Putin welcome?), prediction markets = fantasy football for accelerationists, " Bernie Brethren ", faulty models of society, politicization funnels for the Left. Best takeaway:...
EP 22: REAL MAGICK (Alex Kazemi) 15.02.2020 1:03:57
ALEX KAZEMI is an online trickster and magick-practicing provocateur. When this episode was pre-released to our Discord community in February, it fomented vidid debate among the hard materialists, gnostic scholars, and woo-woo sympathizers. On this episode, we talk Super Super magazine, new sefirots, and Marilyn Manson's God complex, all to ask: Can magick be a framework for today's attention econ...
EP 21: ELLIOT RODGER PLAYS HIMSELF (Mike Crumplar) 10.02.2020 35:51
Featuring Washington D.C.-based writer/editor MIKE CRUMPLAR, whose work focuses on radicalization in America and the systemic drivers of incel culture. This January, Mike published the first segment of a project that looks at the autobiographical writings of Isla Vista spree shooter Elliot Rodger. His Framework takes Elliot not as author, but as subject—a protagonist trapped in his own novel as an...
"A Meditation on FOMO" by LIL INTERNET 06.02.2020 14:00
With trading mania having gone mainstream this winter, the market has come to remote control the emotions of millions in lockdown. LIL INTERNET reflects on this phenomenon here, in a monologue excerpted from NM TopSoil Ep 57, "Capital Insurrection," considering the wild extremes of personal sensitivity today from WallStreetBets to woke culture. Subscribe here https://patreon.com/newmodels for more...
UNLOCKED // NM TopSoil EP 20: COLLECTIVE PARANOIA (w/ Bjarne Melgaard) 19.11.2019 52:50
TopSoil is New Models' informal talk-core cast, which we create specifically for our Patreon community. For all NM TopSoil episodes & to join our Discord: https://patreon.com/newmodels ----- Norwegian artist BJARNE MELGAARD speaks to New Models about CULTURAL PRODUCTION, DESIRE, and the CHANGING THRESHOLDS of VICTIMHOOD and TRANSGRESSION. Also: BJARNE's ANTIVIVISECTION '80s, CARLY as KERN MODEL, a...
NM GREENROOM Ep 1: STEVEN WARWICK discusses "MOI" 04.11.2019 34:53
The Berlin-based British artist https://soundcloud.com/stevenwarwick (ex-Heatsick)talks to New Models about the release of his 2019 album "MOI" (https://soundcloud.com/pan_hq). For full post (incl. video by Dacio Pinheiro): https://newmodels.io/proprietary/new-models-greenroom-steven-warwick-moi Note: this is the first episode of New Models GREENROOM, a series of short interviews featuring people...
EP 20: GUEST LIST (Natasha Stagg) 31.10.2019 1:32:40
Featuring New York-based writer NATASHA STAGG who, on the occasion of her new book "Sleeveless: Fashion, Image, Media, New York 2011-2019" (Semiotext(e)/Native Agents), speaks to us about the myths and metadata of NYC's culture sector and the protocol for creative production in the 2010s. (w/ Caroline Busta, Daniel Keller, @LILINTERNET) For more: https://natashastagg.com/ https://twitter.com/natas...
EP 19: THE FLOURISHING (How to Dress Well aka Tom Krell) 27.10.2019 1:40:46
Featuring LA-based musician and scholar TOM KRELL (aka @howtodresswell) who talks with us about the aesthetics of climate activism, the roll of the critic today, music as carrier signal for identity, the threshold for authenticity, the value of negativity, extraction and power -- let's just say it's a rich and sweeping conversation that offers tools for thinking through some of the big questions o...
EP 18: YUNG MATRIX (Trevor McFedries) 08.10.2019 1:09:00
Featuring TREVOR McFEDRIES, co-founder of Brud, the LA-based transmedia studio behind a crew of digital-native influencer-avatars, including Lil Miquela, Blawko, and Bermuda. Also known as Yung Skeeter or DJ Skeet Skeet, Trevor came up via the music world, producing, directing, and DJ-ing for Katy Perry and other A-list acts. On this episode, we talk to Trevor about the fantasy of contemporary LA...
EP 17: NONFOOD (Lucy Chinen & Sean Raspet) 29.08.2019 1:18:29
Founders of nonfood, Lucy Chinen & Sean Raspet discuss contemporary food supply chains and sustainable food futures, including the R&D of their own algae-based nonbar. Along the way, we address: monocultures, fear, skeuomorphic flavor, cellular agriculture, and the real cost of "all-natural." (w/ Caroline Busta, Daniel Keller, @LILINTERNET) Visit nonfood: https://eatnonfood.com For more: http://lu...
NM SPECIAL REPORT: BLACK SOCIALISTS launch DUAL POWER MAP (Z from BSA) 28.07.2019 30:25
New Models speaks with Z, founder of Black Socialists of America (BSA) about the organization's recently launched DUAL POWER MAP: a critical tool for building a new economic order in America within the existing capitalist structure, starting with black worker-owned businesses and co-ops. (w/ @LILINTERNET & Caroline Busta) For more: blacksocialists.us/dual-power-map Follow BSA: @blacksocialists
EP 16: E PLURIBUS ZUCK (Mat Dryhurst & Kei Kreutler) 15.07.2019 1:25:55
New Models speaks with MAT DRYHURST & KEI KREUTLER, two figures central to Berlin's diverse crypto scene, to unpack the possible impact of Facebook's Libra coin (provided it succeeds). From the Bitcoin villages of Switzerland to Libra as an arm of US foreign policy, this episode takes the coin's tagline at face value asking, _were_ everyone to be invited the the global economy... what would that l...
EP 15: REMOTE PORT (Benjamin Bratton) 18.06.2019 1:09:17
Feat. theorist and philosopher BENJAMIN H. BRATTON, this episode offers a high-gear, macroscopic mapping of Earth and its systems circa 2019 — incl. how notions of “the artificial” and “intelligence” differ across cultures; hemispheric zones of citizenship and exclusion in the age of AR; and a view of human consciousness as a geological phenomenon, a layer through which Earth's planetary system is...
EP 14: SHIFT ALT RIGHT CLIQUE (Joshua Citarella) 24.05.2019 1:06:32
Feat. artist and social theorist JOSHUA CITARELLA who has been exploring how deep online spaces have evolved over the past few years, shaping popular politics in turn — especially among younger people. Last fall when we spoke to Joshua (ep. 6), he had just published a long-form piece on Politigram and the Post-Left. In this ep, we talk to him about his most recent essay, "Irony Politics & Gen Z" (...
EP 13: JE REFUSE (Jenny Odell) 17.04.2019 1:15:21
Featuring artist and lecturer of Internet Art at Stanford University, JENNY ODELL who is the author of a new field book for the attention economy "How to Do Nothing" (Melville House, 2019). Odell speaks to NM about disorientation in the current online space, the value of physical context and community, and the practical tactics of refusal. Plus: bioregionalism, Silicon Valley Ayahuasca, the origin...
EP 12: BLACK SOCIALISTS (Z from BSA) 28.03.2019 1:15:10
New Models speaks with Z, founder of the BLACK SOCIALISTS of AMERICA (BSA), an online channel turned IRL organization providing a forum and voice for black American leftists as well as education around the values of socialism (per Marx). In this episode, we discuss the inherent racism of the "American Dream" (i.e., capitalism), the promise of worker co-ops, identity politics' tactical deficiencies...
EP 11: DOWNSTREAM (Liz Pelly) 02.03.2019 1:21:13
When Spotify was founded in 2006, it aimed to solve the problem of online music distribution, remunerating artists for plays. 13 years on, it is a massive data node that is having a profound effect on how artists and audiences connect. In this cast, New Models speaks with music journalist Liz Pelly, who has written extensively on Spotify, particularly its impact on independent music. She talks to...
LIVE: Panel on Art & Blockchain, Dec 2018(BREKKE, CATLOW, KREUTLER; mod. BUSTA) 13.02.2019 57:50
The discussion was recorded December 15, 2018 at the Schinkel Pavillon in Berlin for the closing event of "PROOF of WORK," an exhibition curated by artist Simon Denny. https://bit.ly/2M42o4T The panel features three individuals working at the intersection of art & blockchain tech: scholar and creative producer Jaya-Klara BREKKE; artist and director of @furtherfield, Ruth CATLOW; and researcher and...
EP 10: LOOSE CLIMATE CHANGE (Christine Lariviere) 11.01.2019 1:25:36
CHRISTINE LARIVIERE works at the intersection of climate change and media. In this ep., she helps us render a massive map of the anthropocene (and humanity's fate therein)while exploring why the word "systems" belies the incomprehensibly vast matrix of networks our changing climate is set to effect. If you make it past the hour mark, stay locked for some hot local foraging tips. (with Busta, Kelle...
EP 9: STACK ATTACK (Cade) 08.12.2018 1:06:17
Berlin-based designer Cade, a specialist in weaponized design, discusses the collateral (human) damage platforms cause as they scale; questions big tech's G-rated ideation of the average subject; considers the functionality of personal mobile devices within precarious communities, and remarks on the actual inefficiency of the cloud. (With Busta, Keller, & @LILINTERNET) See more of Cade's work: htt...
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