Natalia Terfa, Emmy Kegler

Cafeteria Christian

Religion EN ↓ 374 episodes

Cafeteria Christian started as a place for people who love Jesus but are so over the version of Christianity that forgets love, justice, and curiosity. Hosted by Pastor Natalia Terfa and Pastor Emmy Kegler, the show is a mix of faith conversations, cultural commentary, and the beautiful, complicated mess of trying to follow Jesus in the real world. From biblical deep dives to big feelings about the world, Emmy and Natalia create a space where honesty and hope coexist. Together, we're reclaiming the term "Cafeteria Christian" — because when it comes to faith, you really can take what you like a...

Author

Natalia Terfa, Emmy Kegler

Category

Religion

Podcast website

www.cafeteriachristian.club

Latest episode

Jun 29, 2026

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Episodes

#148 Take Me to Church 01.11.2021

Jesse, Emmy, and Natalia talk about some of the reactions to last weeks' episode, and we talk about our listener appreciation month and what fun things we have in store! Support the show at http://patreon.com/cafeteriachristian  

#147 Both / And 25.10.2021

Natalia and Nora are back together again (in Arizona!) and boy did we have some THINGS to talk about. Nora tells us what's on her tray, talks to her dogs, and tries to convince Natalia to move to Arizona, and Natalia talks about her existential crisis as we linger in pandemic life. Support the show at http://patreon.com/cafeteriachristian  

#146 Grab Bag 18.10.2021

Natalia and Emmy tackle a listener question and Emmy brings in another new segment based on a tiktok trend and we take quite a detour into the world of pugs. Yes, the dog.  Support the show at http://patreon.com/cafeteriachristian  

#145 Faith Over Fear? 12.10.2021

Natalia, Jesse, and Emmy tackle a listen question and take turns climbing up on soapboxes about how the good news is twisted into something else. Jesse throws shade at Natalia in fair or foul, and Emmy brings an epic "on this day in Christian history." Support the show at http://patreon.com/cafeteriachristian  

#144 Kate Bowler and No Cure for Being Human 04.10.2021

Emmy and Natalia welcome Kate Bowler to talk about life and faith and hard things and hope in the midst of uncertainty. We laugh, we cry, we solve all the things! Order Kate's new book today: No Cure for Being Human. Support the show at http://patreon.com/cafeteriachristian  

#143 Welcome to the Matrix 27.09.2021

Jesse, Emmy, and Natalia tackle a listener question about deconstruction, Jesse brings CCM to fair or foul, and Emmy unveils a new segment! Support the show at http://patreon.com/cafeteriachristian  

#142 Future Church 20.09.2021

Jesse, Natalia, and Emmy answer a listener question about church and what it would look like if we could start from scratch and build whatever we want. Support the show at http://patreon.com/cafeteriachristian  

#141 All Who Are Weary 13.09.2021

Emmy gives us an extra special excerpt from her upcoming book "All Who Are Weary." Support the show at http://patreon.com/cafeteriachristian  

#140 The Church of the Uncomfortable Middle, with Kristina Harutoonian 07.09.2021

Special guest Kristina from @thedtrblog joins Jesse and Natalia to talk about deconstruction and faith and why church should look more like a 12 step program than a business. Support the show at http://patreon.com/cafeteriachristian  

#139 Anti-Racism in the Church 30.08.2021

Jess and Natalia come together to talk about anti-racism in the church and what we can do to be change makers in our churches and communities. Support the show at http://patreon.com/cafeteriachristian  

#138 How Are We? 23.08.2021

Jesse and Natalia come to talk about how they're doing right now, and how they are finding ways to cope and take care of themselves - turns out they have a shared theme of boundary setting to manage their feelings about the world right now.  Jesse also brings back his new and recurring segment "fair or foul" about all things back-to-school. Support the show at http://patreon.com/cafeteriachristian...

#137 Turn Us Over, We're Done 17.08.2021

Emmy gets left alone with a mic this week and tells about having to do the two worst things possible: put down her phone, and ask for help. Support the show at http://patreon.com/cafeteriachristian  

#136 Baptized in Tear Gas - with guest Elle Dowd 09.08.2021

Emmy and Natalia welcome special guest Elle Dowd to the podcast to talk about being white ladies in this time and place in the revolution.  Support the show at http://patreon.com/cafeteriachristian  

#135 Deconstruction is just a word - with Janice Lagata 02.08.2021

Jesse and Natalia welcome back Janice Lagata to talk about deconstruction and megachurches and why heierarchy is antithetical to Jesus and BOY DID WE HAVE SOME THINGS TO SAY.  Support the show at http://patreon.com/cafeteriachristian  

#134 Olympics + Capitalism + Ethics = profit? 26.07.2021

Natalia and Emmy have a rabbit-hole filled discussion on the Olympics and why they are the best and also why capitalism ruins everything. Support the show at http://patreon.com/cafeteriachristian   Listen to our friends at For the Love of the Games here . 

#132 Call Stories - Emmy and Natalia 13.07.2021

Natalia and Emmy tackle an often asked listener question about how they became pastors, if they like it, and what they do exactly. (Spoiler: we don't know either) Support the show at http://patreon.com/cafeteriachristian

#132 "Yo fam, I need to rock wichu" - Jesus 03.07.2021

Jesse and Natalia tackle a listener question about patriotism and idolatry just in time for the 4th of July holiday weekend.  Support the show at http://patreon.com/cafeteriachristian  

#131 Juneteenth Fixed Racism!! 21.06.2021

Jesse, Emmy, and Natalia talk about Winston Smith, Deona Marie, Minneapolis, and Juneteenth and how they are all connected. What's on your tray makes a comeback in honor of Nora's love for the segment, and we all learn something new.  Support our work at http://patreon.com/cafeteriachristian  

#130 A Reminder 14.06.2021

A quick mini episode to remind you that you are loved. Find a quiet place, and listen to the gorgeous words of Sarah Bessey. Support the show at http://patreon.com/cafeteriachristian  

#129 Create Space 07.06.2021

Nora, Natalia, and Emmy talk about emerging from the pandemic while staying connected to who we've become, and how we are more than we do.  Digressions include: the number 7, cults, and playing with hair. Support the show at http://patreon.com/cafeteriachristian  

#128 What's Church for Anyway? 02.06.2021

Jesse, Natalia, and Emmy answer a listener question about community and the church while taking turns on soapboxes so buckle up yall.  Digressions include: ordination, false summer, and why bed nests are the best. Support the show at http://patreon.com/cafeteriachristian

#127 And They Were All Together In ONE PLACE 24.05.2021

Emmy and Natalia welcome back "very special guest" Meta Herrick Carlson to talk about faith in the pandemic and emerging from the spiritual fog we've all been in this year.  Digressions include: how to people, quirks, and the Goosebumps books. Support the show at http://patreon.com/cafeteriachristian  

#126: Israel and Palestine 17.05.2021

The whole crew is back together! It took us 15 minutes to get on an actual topic but we did it. We talk through the difficult to navigate topic of what is happening right now in Gaza and why we don't have to have answers or fully understand it to care about what is happening. Digressions were frequent, and include: showering, pandemic parenting, tabs v tags, and duck duck grey duck.  Support the s...

#125 Already Hot 10.05.2021

Natalia and Jesse talk about anger and sideways grief and how we're all just low-level simmering pots of rage and what the antidote might be. Digressions include parental hoarding, cereal, and how Jesse can now be referred to as "Mr Make-it-happen" Support the show at our Patreon Page here . Follow us on Instagram @cafeteriachristian Find out more about the Alter Guild Podcasting Network .

#124 (Un)Happy Mother's Day 08.05.2021

An episode from our archive for you this Mother's Day. Natalia and Emmy share their disappointment with typical Mother's Day celebrations in churches and invite stories from listeners and colleagues that explore the wide variety of feelings for people on this day. Support us at our  Patreon page .  Visit our website or follow us on Instagram @cafeteriachristian Learn more about our network of podc...

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