Natalia Terfa, Emmy Kegler

Cafeteria Christian

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Cafeteria Christian started as a place for people who love Jesus but are so over the version of Christianity that forgets love, justice, and curiosity. Hosted by Pastor Natalia Terfa and Pastor Emmy Kegler, the show is a mix of faith conversations, cultural commentary, and the beautiful, complicated mess of trying to follow Jesus in the real world. From biblical deep dives to big feelings about the world, Emmy and Natalia create a space where honesty and hope coexist. Together, we're reclaiming the term "Cafeteria Christian" — because when it comes to faith, you really can take what you like a...

Author

Natalia Terfa, Emmy Kegler

Category

Religion

Podcast website

www.cafeteriachristian.club

Latest episode

Jun 29, 2026

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Episodes

#368 It All Counts - with Natalia Terfa 29.06.2026

We welcome back Ellie Roscher to host and celebrate Natalia's new book: It All Counts: Finding God Everywhere They Told You Not To Look. It's out July 21, preorders are available now.  Link for autographed copies Patreon

#367 A Grab Bag of Topics 22.06.2026

Emmy and Natalia get to a bunch of listener requests/questions/topics that are not one episode on their own, but together make a wide-ranging and varied episode of your adhd dreams. www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian

#366 iSn'T pRiDe A sIn 15.06.2026

Emmy and Natalia celebrate PRIDE! But isn't pride a sin? No guys. Not this kind.  We promise. www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian

#365 What Are Sacraments Anyway? 08.06.2026

Emmy and Natalia talk about the sacraments, why we have them, and why they still matter. www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian

#364 Rupture and Repair 01.06.2026

Emmy and Natalia talk about repair and why it matters in relationships, maybe now more than ever.  Rupture and Repair slidedeck (that was the basis of this conversation) Support us on Patreon

#363 The Church's Weird Week 18.05.2026

Natalia and Emmy talk about the 10 days between Ascension and Pentecost, and what they mean and what we're supposed to do with these lesser holy days.  Become a Patreon Meredith Anne Miller's VBS post Natalia's Ascension Uplift  

#362 A God of War? With Dr Michael Chan 11.05.2026

Emmy and Natalia welcome back friend of God friend of the pod Dr Michael Chan to talk about what we are supposed to think and do when God is invoked to justify violence and war. Not for any current applications or anything just, you know, because.    Dr Chan's recommended reading:  Facing the Abusing God by David Blumenthal  Robert Jensen's commentary on Ezekiel  Luther's Left-handed Kingdom  Patr...

#361 I Want to Have a Different Conversation About AI 04.05.2026

Gird your loins as Natalia brings forward a CONTROVERSIAL take (for Emmy) about AI. Is it possible to have a nuanced conversation about something so polarizing? Church Anew Blog AOC Video Referenced Support Us on Patreon

#360 Not All These Stories Are Fun 27.04.2026

Emmy and Natalia talk about what to do with complicated or difficult or horrible stories in the Bible and if we can really, truly, set them aside and still be faithful? Patreon Article we reference  

#359 Are We… Catholic now? 20.04.2026

Emmy and Natalia talk about Pope Leo and how his message of peace is compelling but actually not that new and also what that means for those of us who may be wondering if agreeing with the Pope so much makes us Catholic.  www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian

#358 That's NOT God 13.04.2026

Emmy and Natalia talk about Artemis II and Pete Hegseth and while neither of those are Jesus, one of them is definitely closer. Article Links:  God Deserves All the Glory - Arthur Holquin Artemis II Is Competency... - Liz Plank Pete Hegseth's Holy War - Julia Carrie Wong Patreon

#357 Does Easter Pass the Vibe Check? With Laura Fanucci 30.03.2026

Natalia welcomes author and speaker Laura Fanucci to the pod to talk about Easter and Holy Week and why we shouldn't let our culture define this day and season with candy and plastic when it's so much better.  Become a Patreon and support us! Find/follow Laura: www.laurakellyfanucci.com , Instagram , & motheringspirit.com   Laura's new book: Living Easter Aaron's substack about moral injury and ho...

#356 You Can't Pray Away the Anything 23.03.2026

Emmy and Natalia talk about healing and miracles and medicine and why none of them are mutually exclusive and also why this let-Jesus-take-the-wheel way of doing healthcare is not faithful but harmful.  Patreon Sawbones

#355 Jesus Never Said "Can't We All Just Get Along" 16.03.2026

Emmy and Natalia tackle a listener question about a parent breakup, boundaries, and a theological question about whether or not God makes all things good. (spoiler: no) www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian

#354 Grab Bag and Bible Translations 09.03.2026

Emmy and Natalia talk about what's happening in the world, in Minneapolis, and then answer a listener question about Bible Translations and why there are so many and how we are supposed to even know which ones are good or not good?  www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian

#353 In All Things… Nuance. 02.03.2026

Emmy and Natalia talk about a listener's request for advice on leaving a church, and it leads to a deeper discussion about Two Kingdom Theology, all of which may or may not have required Emmy to put on her nuance hat a whole bunch of times.  www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian Rent relief in MN  

#352 "The Files" 23.02.2026

Emmy and Natalia talk a little bit about "The Files" - and what it means for us as people of faith that this kind of evil exists in the world, and what we do about the fact that justice seems so slow in coming.  Content Note: This episode references child sexual abuse (no graphic detail) Housing Fund for MN Natalia on PP! Rev Aaron Fuller on Cafeteria Christian | (spotify link) Support us on Patre...

# 351 Notes from Occupied Suburbia 16.02.2026

Emmy and Natalia welcome longtime listener Bethany, to share with us a little bit about how Operation Metro Surge looks different in the suburbs than it does in the city, and what non-Minnesota soccer moms can do to prepare for what might come to them next. Give to MN Mutual Aid Become a Patron

#350 We Remember Your Baptism, with Meta Herrick Carlson 09.02.2026

Emmy and Natalia welcome very special guest Meta Herrick Carlson to talk about her new book for children: We Remember Your Baptism. We also talk about baptism generally and why it matters more than ever to lean into our belovedness right now. Patreon Meta's New Book Meta's Website

#349 We Will Not Comply 02.02.2026

Emmy and Natalia talk about Romans 13 and how it gets tossed around as a reason to be quiet and just comply. No thank you. Not only is it theologically bad, but it's just wrong! They'll dig into the context and history of Romans 13, and why it doesn't quite mean what you think it means.  www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian Rev Benjamin Cremer Article

#348 Highs and Lows in MN 26.01.2026

Natalia and Emmy talk about the last few days in Minnesota/Minneapolis, how we're feeling, how we're showing up, and how you can all do your own thing.  www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian

#347 Find Your One Thing 19.01.2026

Emmy and Natalia give an update from Minneapolis, talk about ways to support the communities here, and how to take care of the overwhelm many of you have told us you are feeling. www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian   Ollie Schminkey Poem David Gate article Give:  Holy Trinity Lutheran Church (Pastor Discretionary Fund) Stand With Minnesota  

#346 Not Good, But Better. 12.01.2026

Emmy and Natalia process the escalation and violence in Minneapolis after the killing of Renee Nicole Good, and what our faith tells us about how we respond in times such as this. Unidos/Monarca St Pauls/San Pablos Give Link

#345 Fair Game - with Ellie Roscher 05.01.2026

Natalia welcomes back author and artist and friend of the pod friend of God Ellie Roscher to talk about her new book: Fair Game: Trans Athletes and the Future of Sports.  Book Ellie's Website Previous Ellie CC Episodes (SO MANY, but here are a few): Tiny Things The Embodied Path The Body Stories Embodiment as a Spiritual Practice Search Ellie Roscher Cafeteria Christian in apple podcasts to find a...

#344 A Very Cafeteria Christmas Video 22.12.2025

Emmy and Natalia create a little Christmas service video, for anyone who isn't quite feeling up to going into a church, for whatever reason.  Special Musical Guests: Paul and Amy Koopman Patreon Email us questions  or future episode suggestions Join us on the gram:  @cafeteriachristian

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