Valerie Martin & Emerson Ryder
But For Real
Welcome to But For Real: the podcast where all your swirling thoughts about mental health, pop culture, and how to human are blended into one delicious variety show, co-hosted by therapists Valerie Martin (resident elder millennial ✌️) and Emerson Ryder (resident Gen Z 🫶).
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Valerie Martin & Emerson Ryder
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Jul 8, 2026
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Episodes
LGBTQ+ & BIPOC Mental Health with Ashley Hampton 08.07.2026 45:48
Ashley Hampton is a licensed therapist, certified clinical supervisor, adjunct professor at Vanderbilt University, and the co-founder of two organizations doing quietly revolutionary work in Tennessee. As co-founder and clinical director of Hampton House Counseling, she's built one of Nashville's first BIPOC and LGBTQIA+ centered group therapy practices from the ground up — with diversity not as a...
Turning Grief into Action With Allie Phillips 24.06.2026 57:42
Allie Phillips is a working mom of two, a Tennessee native, and a first-time political candidate turned relentless advocate. After being denied lifesaving reproductive care under Tennessee's abortion ban following a devastating diagnosis at her 20-week anatomy scan, Allie was forced to leave the state to terminate a pregnancy her doctors confirmed was not compatible with life. She documented her e...
It Takes a Village: The Power & Challenge of Building Community 10.06.2026 42:12
Val and Em are flying solo (duo?) this week — no guest, just the two of them getting into one of their favorite obsessions: community. Why is it so hard to find your people as an adult? Why do we feel lonely even when our calendars are full? And what does the actual research say about what makes community work? They get into the loneliness epidemic (yes, it's as bad as you've heard), the concept o...
They Can't Kill Us if Our Art Survives - with Wednesdae, @queer.art_therapist 27.05.2026 50:08
In this episode of But For Real, we delve into the transformative realm of expressive arts therapy with our distinguished guest, Wednesdae Reim Ifrach. Their expertise lies at the confluence of queer embodiment, complex trauma, and creative healing, offering a profound perspective on how art can serve as a conduit for emotional expression and personal growth. We explore the misconception that art...
Unmasking Autism with Devon Price, PhD 13.05.2026 47:42
What if the version of you most of the world knows… isn’t actually *you*? In this episode of But For Real , we’re sitting down with Devon Price, PhD—social psychologist, author of Unmasking Autism (+ several other books!), and badass autistic human—to get really REAL about something that is kinda the opposite of that: Masking. That pattern of adaptation that’s helped you survive… but can slowly er...
The One About Polyamory with Em Mortenson 29.04.2026 54:14
So… your partner brings up opening the relationship. 👀 And you’re trying to be thoughtful, open-minded, maybe even a little curious… but there’s also this voice in the background like: “Wait… do I actually want this?” 🫠 In this episode of But For Real , we’re sitting down with therapist Em Mortenson to get into the real conversation around polyamory and ethical non-monogamy—beyond the labels, be...
Boundaries Aren’t B*tchy! 15.04.2026 37:30
What if the thing you’ve been calling “being rude”… is actually just having a boundary? Yeah. Let’s talk about it. Because somewhere along the way—especially for women, people-pleasers, and anyone raised to prioritize politeness over honesty—boundaries got branded as selfish, cold, or straight-up b*tchy. And honestly? That narrative is doing damage. In this episode of But For Real, we’re doing a f...
The One About Suicide 💔🫂 01.04.2026 1:12:51
We need to talk about suicide… like actually talk about it. Not in the polished, clinical, tip-list way. Not in the fear-based, “don’t say the wrong thing” way. But in the real, messy, human way that most of us have experienced—whether personally or through someone we love. Because here’s the truth: suicide is way more common, complex, and misunderstood than we’re comfortable admitting. And the wa...
Is Sex Addiction Really a Thing? 18.03.2026 48:05
We need to talk about sex addiction — because culturally, this phrase gets thrown around a lot . And depending on who you ask, it’s either a legitimate disorder… or a moral panic wrapped in clinical language. Either way, it is certainly true that some people need expert support to realign their sexual behavior with their values and intentions, and heal any wounds that may underlie sexual acting ou...
We Need To Talk About Child Stars 🎬 04.03.2026 38:06
We need to talk about child stars, y’all. 🎬 Not just in a nostalgic “remember when?” way. And not just in a “look at their meltdown” way. In a developmental, nervous-system, attachment theory-informed way. Because culturally, we’ve been sold a shiny story about fame, money, and success. But from a developmental perspective, achieving fame early in life can leave lasting scars, which are too often...
Why We Love The Drama (Until It's Ours) 🫣 18.02.2026 52:47
Let’s be honest. We all love a little drama… as long as it’s not happening to us. 😜 From celebrity family feuds to wedding-day chaos to messy public statements, we can’t look away. But the second that kind of public-facing conflict hits our own nervous system? We’re either shutting down, spiraling, or plotting our escape into permanent invisibility. In this episode of But For Real, therapists Val...
The One About Repair ❤️🩹🫂 04.02.2026 1:02:48
If conflict makes your chest tighten, your brain freeze, or your instinct scream “AVOID AT ALL COSTS, ABORT, ABORT!,” this episode is for YOU, honey. In Episode 37 of But For Real , therapists Val and Em talk honestly about repair —not the Instagram version, but the real-life, messy, emotionally vulnerable process of repairing relationships after conflict. We recorded this episode fresh off a hard...
Why Being Regulated All The Time Is Bullsh*t! 22.01.2026 54:08
If you’ve done “the work,” learned nervous system skills, gone to therapy… and you still get dysregulated , this episode is your permission slip to stop spiraling about it. In Episode 36 of But For Real , Val and Em break down what emotional regulation actually means—and why TikTok, pop psychology, and even therapy culture have wildly distorted it. We start the episode under-caffeinated, under-sle...
Seasonal Feelings Disorder: Why Is January SO Weird? 07.01.2026 50:09
January is just… weird , y’all. Not awful necessarily, but also not really the motivation-charged era we’re culturally conditioned that it should be. In this episode of But For Real, we’re naming the post-holiday emotional hangover that sneaks up on so many of us every January. The irritability. The numbness. The low-grade existential dread. The urge to hibernate while the internet screams “...
The One About Hypnosis 🌀 24.12.2025 51:53
Ever tried hypnosis and thought, “Cool… nothing is happening,” while everyone else in the comments claims their soul left their body? Same. In this episode, we’re pulling hypnosis out of the movie version and into real life. No clucking like a chicken. No blacking out. No dramatic “going under.” Just an honest, funny, science-backed conversation about what hypnosis actually is, why it often feels...
How Music Helps You Heal 🎵❤️🩹 10.12.2025 56:01
Music is literally the soundtrack of our lives – and music can be incredibly healing when used in the right way. In this episode of But For Real, Valerie and Emerson dive into the ins and outs of music therapy, how and why it works, and how you can start your own music therapy journey. This episode covers: 04:12 - Tea & Crumpets: Virginia Giuffre’s memoir: Nobody’s Girl + Take Back Your Marria...
The Serious Person’s Guide To Getting Silly Again 🤪 26.11.2025 47:53
If you feel like adult life is just full of responsibilities, to-dos, meetings, and seriousness, you’re not alone. With busy schedules and the weight of the world, it’s easy to feel disconnected. In this episode of But For Real, Valerie and Emerson explore the relationship we have as play as adults, why it’s actually integral to your well-being and how to start inviting in joy again 🫶 This episod...
Existential-Humanistic Psychology— WTF actually is it? 🧐 12.11.2025 50:11
In a world full of uncertainty and pain, life can feel devoid of meaning and hope—but what if life could also feel incredibly rich by showing up for it fully? You don’t have to have it all figured out to live with depth, and existential humanistic psychology can help you reconnect with life meaningfully. This episode covers: 03:33 - Tea & Crumpets: Rewatching Nashville + The Lowdown 07:21 - St...
What to Do When the World Is on Fire (Literally) ☄️ 29.10.2025 58:01
In a world that’s both metaphorically and literally on fire, it can feel nearly impossible to figure out how the hell to live without either feeling like you’re gaslighting yourself into “normalcy” or getting so paralyzed by eco-anxiety that you can’t function. In this episode, Valerie and Emerson dive into all things Eco-Anxiety & Planet Grief, as well as steps you can take to navigate...
The Self-Growth Industrial Complex 🔍 15.10.2025 54:41
Conversations around self-growth are all over every media platform these days – and while introspection and commitment to growth and change is important, it’s easy for it to be an all consuming trap that’s actually the opposite of growth. In this episode, Valerie and Emerson take a deep dive into the history of the self-growth industrial complex, explore what’s useful, debunk what’s not, and give...
The One About Eating Disorders + Body Image 🍽️ 01.10.2025 1:07:29
In a time where it feels like 2000s diet culture is back in full force, this week’s episode about eating disorders and body image is important now more than ever. Whether you’re currently struggling with your body, have struggled in the past, love someone who struggles, or are just interested in a deep dive on these complex challenges, this episode is for you. This episode covers: 02:32 - Tea &...
Sex Therapy & Kink with SanTasha Wright-Comer ⛓ 17.09.2025 58:05
Today we have such an exciting episode and a special guest. Santasha Wright-Comer, LMSW, is a Sex-Informed Therapist here The Gaia Center who believes healing and pleasure go hand in hand. A proud wife and mom of two, Santasha brings both warmth and realness into her work, especially when supporting LGBTQIA+ and BIPOC communities in finding safety, joy, and intimacy in their relationships. When sh...
Blame It On The Booze: Alcohol in 2025🍸 03.09.2025 1:10:09
Alcohol culture is pervasive—and while alcohol isn’t unhealthy for EVERYONE, the discourse can be pretty inescapable. Whether you’ve been alcohol free for years, curious about your relationship with alcohol, or trying to stop, this episode is for you! This episode covers: 00:03:08 - Tea & Crumpets: All Rhodes Lead Here by Mariana Zapata and delaying gratification by doing things slowly 00:08:2...
Once a Cheater…? The One About Infidelity ❤️🩹 20.08.2025 55:30
In this episode, Valerie and Emerson dive into an always controversial topic: infidelity. They explore what infidelity actually is, statistics, why people cheat, cultural considerations, and the role therapy can play. This episode covers: 03:28 - Tea & Crumpets: The Osbournes and Shrinking Season 2 06:08 - Step Into My Office: HELP! My friend is cheating… 10:04 - The DSM: THE hottest debate in...
Men’s Mental Health & The Power of Gaming with Sam DiMartino 👾 06.08.2025 1:04:43
In this episode, we are excited to dive into all things men’s mental health & the power of gaming with one of The Gaia Center’s team members, Sam DiMartino! In his clinical work, Sam supports individuals and couples through an array of topics like grief, trauma, toxic masculinity + men’s issues, systemic oppression, identity exploration etc and also leads our men’s group Tearing Down The Walls...
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