Nina L. Kovner
BUILDING & BREAKING with Nina L. Kovner
BUILDING & BREAKING with Nina L Kovner is a podcast about how brands are built, how trust is broken, and what it all means for salon owners, hairstylists, small business creatives and brands who give a damn. Each week, Nina takes you behind the scenes of brand strategy, leadership decisions, and real-world examples from inside and outside the beauty industry. With decades of experience building brands (and witnessing heartbreaking downfalls), Nina breaks down the moments that define a brand: the bold moves, the missed opportunities, the trust built, and lost. Whether you're leading a team, gro...
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Jun 14, 2026
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Episodes
Justifying Your Value, Worth and Price 06.02.2023 9:26
In this episode, Nina dives deeper into an Instagram post shared last week on being mindful about creating content drenched in justification around the value, worth, and pricing of your brand services and products. Whether you are a stylist, a salon, a fitness trainer, a massage therapist, a lash artist, or a content creator, always remember your content is your marketing. When you find yourself s...
BONUS Episode Nina Kovner on Branding 31.01.2023 18:08
Bestie of Passion Squared and the beauty industry Gordon Miller recently launched a new podcast, Social Beauty Makers, and invited Nina on his pod. From Social Beauty Makers A renowned coach, marketer, and thought leader in social and digital media, Nina Kovner, Passion Squared CEO, gives us a 15-minute master class on the fundamentals related to 'brand' and 'branding' -two words too often used in...
The Difference Between Brand Values and Brand Value 23.01.2023 19:40
In this episode Nina shares insights into why it's essential to understand your brand values, what those you serve value, and the difference between brand values and brand value. With the recent decision Amazon made to end their Smile program they chose to abandon a part of their brand that was of value for some, and in doing so, moves folks to question Amazon's actual brand values. Your brand sto...
Aligning Your Words with Your Brand 16.01.2023 11:17
In this episode, Nina shares insights and examples of why it's important to align your words, language, communications, and content with your brand purpose, promise, people, voice, values, and vibe. Your words have energy, meaning, and impact. You want the words you choose to help you move toward the outcome you're seeking while ensuring they are in the language of your client, customer, or consum...
Care, Trust and Value in 2023 09.01.2023 12:23
In this episode Nina shares some insights into how you can double down on caring, building trust, and delivering value for your clients, teams, and tenants this year. Whether you believe a recession is here or on the way, getting back to the fundamentals of building relationships, referrals, retention, and revenue is very much in style. What's out of style is client shaming, blaming, and being inf...
What We Can Learn from New Year's Day 02.01.2023 12:20
Welcome back to the podcast, lol! It's been a minute. In this episode Nina shares some wisdom and thoughts around the feelings and hopes of new days and how that can translate into any day of the year. Whether you spend your New Year's Day in silence and reflection, or out playing in nature, or binge watching your favorite show, prioritizing your self-care is essential to feeling more grounded, pr...
Making Decisions and Creating Awesome Client Agreements 12.07.2022 20:58
In this episode, Nina shares their frameworks for both decision making and creating awesome client agreements, two critically important tools for you to simplify your life as a leader and creative small business owner. The truth is you likely spend way too much time, energy, and stress not making decisions, avoiding problems, and feeling resentful when clients show up late, cancel at the last minu...
Where You Stand As A Brand and How You Decide 05.07.2022 19:19
In this episode, Nina share's some insights into why some brands stand up publicly and fight injustices in our world and why some choose not to. This episode is not about politics, it's about clarity of brand story, vision, and values. It's about the choices you make as a brand in relation to what your people value, whether it be clients, team members, or tenants if you are leading a lease-based b...
The Not So Great Cancellation, Focusing On What You Can Control + Being Where Your Feet Are 15.01.2022 15:27
The awesome news is your clients are respecting your Safe In Our Salon Agreements + Protocols and canceling their reservations if they feel ill or have been exposed, the not so awesome news is you may be having a trauma response to your 2020 experience. If this feels relatable, you are not alone. In this episode, Nina shares some thoughts on how to navigate the current cancellation surge you may b...
Getting Back To What Matters On Social Media 04.01.2022 24:44
In this all-new episode of the pod, Nina shares their experience with the recent 33-day social break they took. At Passion Squared, we've been sharing with our clients and community for years about the importance of taking breaks, however, during this break, Nina saw the need for even more time off, and when you are on, remembering your purpose for being there, focusing on who you serve and the so...
ENCORE: Nina L. Kovner On Holidays + Boundaries + Britney Spears 18.11.2021 24:25
(This episode originally aired on December 24, 2019) In this episode, Nina shares her experience around navigating the holidays when you struggle to find joy in them, a little but super important rant on Britney memes and mental health, along with reading a few pages from her NEW My AwesomeAF Boundary Book that touches on clients demanding to be squeezed in and talking politics with family. You ca...
ENCORE: Danielle Green On The Hair Love Book + Animated Short Film + The CROWN Act 11.11.2021 25:38
(This episode originally aired on February 13, 2020) In this episode we sit down with Danielle Green of Radically Curly to talk about the Hair Love book, the recent Oscar win for the Hair Love animated short film, and the CROWN Act. It is currently LEGAL in all but three states (now 14 as of this encore episode) in the US to discriminate against Black people who wear natural, protective and braide...
Fifty Five Lessons + Wisdoms from 55 Years of Living 09.10.2021 54:04
In this episode of the pod, Nina shares fifty five life and business wisdoms and lessons on their 55th birthday with special guest and bestie Gordon Miller of Hairbrained. Grab your favorite beverage and snack, get cozy, take a listen and if you feel inspired, share some of your wisdoms and lessons with us on the socials. You can find Nina + Passion Squared on the gram @passionsquared @ninakovner...
Nina L. Kovner On Business Integrity & Agreements + No Shows + Lifetime Client Value + Venmo Drama 09.07.2021 31:51
In this What's On My Mind episode we are back with Nina sharing what's been on their mind the last couple weeks. Nina share's their thoughts on business integrity and ethics, business agreements and how they align with your own brand vision and values along with your brand purpose, promise and people. This applies to all aspects of your business and the daily decisions you make as a leader and sma...
Kristin Rankin on Pride + Creating Inclusive Salons + Pronouns + The Dress Code Project 08.06.2021 49:03
In this episode we talk (again!) with Kristin Rankin, hairdresser, owner of Fox & Jane Salon in Toronto + Founder of Dress Code Project. As we celebrate LGBTQIA+ Pride this month, our discussion with Kristin is super relevant as you reflect on how you can be a more inclusive, affirming salon for both your clients + team members. We talk about all the things; salon closures, mental health, pronouns...
Dr. Nancy Sobel on Mental Health + Wellness As We Enter Our Post Pandemic World 23.05.2021 1:00:56
Content Warning: Depression, Suicidal Ideation & Traumatic Experience In this comeback episode Nina brings back her therapist, Dr. Nancy Sobel, to talk about all the things mental health. Dr. Nancy Sobel is a psychologist in private practice in West LA specializing in the treatment of trauma and compulsive disorders and has been Nina's personal therapist for the past 14 years. Dr. Sobel has worked...
Dr. Nancy R. Sobel On Mental Health + Hope + Resilience with COVID-19 27.03.2020 44:50
In this episode Nina chats with Dr. Nancy Sobel, a psychologist in private practice in Los Angeles California specializing in the treatment of trauma and compulsive disorders and Nina's personal therapist for the past 13 years. Dr. Nancy shares her expertise, experience and some tools to help you understand and navigate all the stages and feels of this global pandemic. We talk anxiety, fear, guilt...
Nina L. Kovner On Communication + Community + Compassion In Crisis 14.03.2020 16:25
In this episode Nina shares her thoughts around navigating the anxiety, fear and uncertainty around COIVD-19 for salons + small business owners. If you are seeking guidance and support with your client + team communications, click to read Clear Communication Is Kind . Please use TRUSTED news sources for information in your country, state, county and city and be very careful of what you are sharing...
Rebecca Taylor On Paying Artists + Salon Ownership + Mental Wellness 03.03.2020 59:45
In this episode we sat down with Rebecca Taylor, salon owner, colorist, educator, influencer and mental health advocate. We talked about all the things; her recent departure from a brand she helped create, paying artists, opening her second salon, navigating mental health and so much more. You can find Rebecca on the gram @rebeccataylorhair Thank you Rebecca for sharing your passion, truth and jou...
Keya Neal On Independent Education + Representation + Blackish 19.02.2020 54:59
In this LIVE from ISSE with Hairbrained episode we have Keya Neal of Texture vs. Race back with us for round two! We talk about ALL THE THINGS, from the reality of independent education, Keya's journey in becoming an awesome public speaker, and the recent problematic Blackish episode on black hair and salons. For even more context and education, please listen to Keya's first episode on the podcast...
Danielle Green On Hair Love The Book + Animated Short Film + The CROWN Act 13.02.2020 25:38
In this episode we sit down with Danielle Green of Radically Curly to talk about the Hair Love book, the recent Oscar win for the Hair Love animated short film, and the CROWN Act. It is currently LEGAL in all but three states in the US to discriminate against black people who wear natural, protective and braided hairstyles both in schools and in the workplace. This is racism. Period. Danielle shar...
Kristen Peckich on The Power of Social + Digital Marketing for The Holidays 21.01.2020 21:20
In this episode I sit down with Kristen Peckich, stylist, leader, bridal specialist and owner of Lapomponnee Salons + MEC Modern Barbering. Kristen has been a salon owner for 28 years and happens to be the same generation as my, Gen X, when the Internet did not even exist to help empower small businesses. Kristen shares her experience around discovering the power of social media, and how, after 28...
Nina L. Kovner On Exposure Doesn't Pay The Bills 16.01.2020 26:57
In this episode I share my experience, wisdom and context around getting paid as a speaker, educator, platform artist and influencer. After 30 years of being an educator, education director and VP of Marketing, Education and Events, I have negotiated hundreds of contracts and today help our clients at Passion Squared understand their value and worth. This is not a black and white one size fits all...
Gordon Miller + Nina L. Kovner Decade In Review + Ramblings + Predictions 30.12.2019 1:27:55
In this extended episode Nina sits down with her bestie Gordon Miller, CEO of Hairbrained.me to talk about the decade in social, digital, the beauty industry, highlights, proud moments along with some predictions of where they see the future of social, digital and more. Buckle up loves, this is a long yet loaded with so much wisdom episode. You can find Gordon on the gram @gordnm @hairbrained_offi...
Nina L. Kovner On Holidays + Boundaries + Britney Spears 24.12.2019 24:25
In this episode Nina shares her experience around navigating the holidays when you struggle to find joy in them, a little but super important rant on Britney memes and mental health, along with reading a few pages from her NEW My AwesomeAF Boundary Book that touches on clients demanding to be squeezed in and talking politics with family. You can get your copy of My AwesomeAF Boundary Book in the P...
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