Nina L. Kovner
BUILDING & BREAKING with Nina L. Kovner
BUILDING & BREAKING with Nina L Kovner is a podcast about how brands are built, how trust is broken, and what it all means for salon owners, hairstylists, small business creatives and brands who give a damn. Each week, Nina takes you behind the scenes of brand strategy, leadership decisions, and real-world examples from inside and outside the beauty industry. With decades of experience building brands (and witnessing heartbreaking downfalls), Nina breaks down the moments that define a brand: the bold moves, the missed opportunities, the trust built, and lost. Whether you're leading a team, gro...
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Jun 14, 2026
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Episodes
The Trouble with Comparing Your Salon Brand To The One Down The Street 10.04.2024 13:56
In this episode Nina dives into the trouble with comparing your salon brand to the one down the street, revisiting a Passion Squared blog post from 2014 on the importance of having clarity around your own salon brand story, marketing strategy which includes your salon pricing, your business objectives, desired outcomes, overhead, and all the things. This episode also includes a little reminder abo...
How Salon Clients Find You Online and The Missing Context of Charging Your Worth 03.04.2024 20:01
In this episode, Nina dives into a few key actions that can have an immediate impact on your salon business and brand. New salon clients find you via search, whether it be through search engines, voice, AI, referral platforms or the socials. Every word matters, which means your captions are more important than ever. In this episode I share an exercise I did that proved how social media posts can s...
Let's Catch Up: Repurposing Content, Healthy Boundaries, Walls, Salon Service Discounting And More 27.03.2024 19:36
In this episode on the pod, Nina comes to you for a little catch up after being under the weather this month to celebrate Passion Squared's 12th birthday, dive into respurposing content, navigating sick days with salon clients, healthy boundaries vs. walls in your salon business, and some things to consider before discounting your salon services when you're business is slow and you're not sure why...
ENCORE EPISODE: The $100K Email: Building Care, Trust, and Value with Your Existing Salon Clients 28.02.2024 18:24
In this episode, originally aired in June 2023, Nina shares some simple, high-impact ways to show your salon clients you care, build trust, and create more value for them. These simple actions, which have nothing to do with social media or algorithms, can help you retain awesome clients, and help you generate more revenue in the process. Also in this episode, Nina shares the real reason behind the...
Your Salon Social Media Content Is Your Marketing 21.02.2024 20:02
In this episode, Nina dives into the connection between your salon brand story and your salon's social media content and shares some simple processes to stay focused on creating content that connects you to the salon clients you wish to serve. If you are looking to streamline your social media content process, build relationships with new clients, get out of comparison, and reduce overwhelm this e...
SPECIAL GUEST Candice Moore On Emotional Fitness and Stepping Into Your Truth 14.02.2024 36:53
In this episode, Nina sits down with special guest, and long-time friend Candice Moore. Candice is the owner of Moore Grace, a company dedicated to healing, restoration, and hope at the soul level. Candice is a transformative leader, a powerful motivational speaker, a gifted storyteller, and a published author. In this episode, Candice shares what emotional fitness and wellness look and feel like,...
ENCORE EPISODE: Justifying Your Value, Worth and Price 07.02.2024 9:26
In this episode, which originally aired on February 6, 2023, Nina dives deeper into an Instagram post shared last week on being mindful about creating content drenched in justification around the value, worth, and pricing of your brand services and products. Whether you are a stylist, a salon, a fitness trainer, a massage therapist, a lash artist, or a content creator, always remember your content...
Things To Look At When Your Salon Business Is Slow 31.01.2024 26:37
In this episode, Nina shares some thoughts about the 'everyone is slow' narrative being shared on the salon industry socials. The fact is, not everyone is slow, busy, sad, happy, or anything. This is another example of black and white thinking, coupled with remembering the algorithms can be deceiving and distracting. Nina also shares insights on some key areas of your salon business to look at whe...
SPECIAL GUEST Ira Pope Sage On Becoming A Hairdresser, Educator, Navigating Fears and Healthy Mindsets 24.01.2024 47:51
In this episode, Nina sits down with long-time friend and award winning hairdresser Ira Pope Sage. They talk about everything, from how Ira became a hairdresser, to his first years as an educator, to navigating his fears and helping others navigate theirs as an educator, to what creates an awesome salon or education experience, to the daily rituals that help Ira stay healthy, grounded and strong....
ENCORE EPISODE: Dismantling The 'Professional Salon Products Aren't Profitable' Myth 18.01.2024 23:17
We're sharing this episode again (original episode aired June 2023) as the myth around professional salon products not being profitable keeps coming back to our inbox, as recently as this week. In this episode, Nina talks about the true purpose of providing home care solutions for your clients and some of the false narratives being shared in the professional salon industry. The truth is, your salo...
Salon Client Education, Haircare Myths and Lifetime Client Value 10.01.2024 19:59
In this episode, Nina dives deeper into a post shared last week on the Passion Squared socials that spoke to the Stanley cup memes and folks comparing them to investing in professional salon products. The memes were funny and also created an opportunity to talk about brand value and lifetime salon client value. The deeper dive in this episode is about understanding the connection between educating...
2024: The Year of Perspective for The Salon Industry 03.01.2024 41:43
In this episode, Nina proclaims 2024 to be the year of perspective for the salon industry. One viral TiKTok or some comments from random strangers on the Internet is not fact, or truth. The algorithms are designed to feed off our enragement and discourse. Because of that, we are collectively losing perspective around how different salon businesses and models work, how salons make decisions aligned...
SPECIAL GUEST Roxan McDonald On Storytelling, TikTok, Not Being Nice and So Much More 01.09.2023 39:25
In this special episode of the pod, Nina is joined by author, writer, storyteller, content creator, and small business owner Roxan McDonald. Roxan shares her story of how she became a writer and storyteller, her viral rise on TikTok, not being nice, where gratitude fits in her recovery and life, moving to a new country and we dive into Roxan's latest creation, the Spiritual AF Activity Book and Jo...
Navigating Difficult Conversations with Salon Clients 03.07.2023 23:26
In this episode, Nina responds to a question from Evan Joseph about dealing with a salon client who is being unreasonable and combative. There are several things to consider when deciding how to handle upset or angry salon clients; your business Agreements, your brand, lifetime client value, and the outcome you seek. Having healthy boundaries is essential in business, and Nina shares a few differe...
Dear Salon Industry, We Need To Talk About Home Care Solutions for Your Clients 20.06.2023 23:17
In this episode, Nina talks about the true purpose of providing home care solutions for your clients and some of the false narratives being shared in the professional salon industry. The truth is, your client's happiness matters not just on the day of their salon visit, but also, all the days in between. The purpose of offering home care is not about money or profits, it is one of the results, how...
The $100K Email: Building Care, Trust, and Value with Your Existing Clients 05.06.2023 18:24
In this episode, Nina shares some simple, high-impact ways to show clients you care, build trust, and create more value for them. These simple actions, which have nothing to do with social media or algorithms, can help you retain awesome clients, and help you generate more revenue in the process. Also in this episode, Nina shares the real reason behind their obsession with squirrels, birds, and tr...
ENCORE: A Different Look at Team Handbooks and Client Agreements 29.05.2023 19:35
One way to reduce team discourse, leadership overwhelm and angst is to have clear, simple, aligned, and compassionate communication. And while that sounds like, duh Nina, the truth is it's one of the most common reasons discourse is created in the first place, and why people quit. Unmet expectations, broken promises, or misaligned expectations come back to communication. In this episode, Nina shar...
Healthy Boundaries: Conversation Framework for Pricing Discussions with Clients 07.05.2023 19:57
In this episode, Nina shares the Healthy Boundary Conversation Framework from My AwesomeAF Healthy Boundary Handbook to help guide you through some of the more challenging discussions when salon clients are asking about the pricing of your services and when you have a price increase. Nina also walks you through the differences between healthy boundary communications on price increases and no bound...
Not Everyone Goes To A Salon: A Lesson In Marketing & Your Mindset 24.04.2023 16:40
In this episode, Nina shares some much-needed context to help you understand the difference between salon-going and non-salon going consumers, which helps you better define your own target market, dream clients, or what we call at Passion Squared, brand people. When you have clarity around this, you can spend more time focusing on who you serve, and less time and frustration on the folks who simpl...
It's Time To Dismantle The Salon Retail Narrative 03.04.2023 17:54
In this episode, Nina invites you to dismantle a decades-old narrative about salon "retailing". The truth is, your clients come to you because of your professional experience and expertise which includes how to maintain their hair, skin, etc. at home. The purpose and objective of educating your clients and recommending home care products and tools are to ensure your clients are happy. The outcome...
Here Comes The Sun: Lessons About Trauma, Determination, Healing & Hope 20.03.2023 30:11
In this episode, I share my process and experience of saying yes to a trip to Los Angeles for a special event and all the feelings I had, and the lessons I picked up along the way. This is a story of identifying new traumas, not feeling ready, the healing that comes with feeling your feelings, determination, finding hope again, and celebrating every step, literally and figuratively. A big shout-ou...
My Take On Independence and Interdependence from 2013 06.03.2023 10:01
In this episode, Nina share's chapter from their book Follow Your Heart, written in 2013. The chapter is called PEOPLE, and it walks you through why the concept of independence is a myth, and why interdependence is really where it's at still to this day. You can apply this concept to both your business and your life because the truth is, you need people, we need people, and none of us would be whe...
Commission Percentages vs. Compensation Programs 21.02.2023 14:31
In this episode, Nina invites you to look at the words and language you use as a salon owner and how they align with your brand and the outcomes you seek. Traditionally, there's been a focus on commission in the salon industry, which becomes problematic and creates unrealistic expectations, confusion, and disappointment. Whether you are an employment-based salon owner or a lease-based salon owner,...
A Different Look At Team Handbooks and Agreements 21.02.2023 19:35
One way to reduce team discourse, leadership overwhelm and angst are to have clear, simple, aligned, and compassionate communication. And while that sounds like, duh Nina, the truth is it's one of the most common reasons discourse is created in the first place, and why people quit. Unmet expectations, broken promises, or misaligned expectations come back to communication. In this episode Nina shar...
A Different Look At Team Handbooks and Agreements 13.02.2023 19:35
One way to reduce team discourse, leadership overwhelm and angst is to have clear, simple, aligned, and compassionate communication. And while that sounds like, duh Nina, the truth is it's one of the most common reasons discourse is created in the first place, and why people quit. Unmet expectations, broken promises, or misaligned expectations come back to communication. In this episode Nina share...
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