Jill Prager

Both/And

Health EN ↓ 7 episodes

Both/And is a survival podcast for people living with chronic emotional pain, trauma, and neurodivergence. I'm Jill. I've been in therapy for decades. This podcast is me processing my week out loud, exploring what it means to survive when maybe this is as good as it gets. This isn't about recovery or healing. It's about showing up anyway - accepting both/and: that life hurts AND I'm still here. If you're exhausted by toxic positivity or tired of being told to try harder, this is for you. Weekly episodes. No guests. No solutions. Just honest survival.

Author

Jill Prager

Category

Health

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Latest episode

Dec 26, 2025

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Episodes

Surviving Everything at Once 26.12.2025

One year ago, Jill lost both her cats and the connection with the man she loved started falling apart. Now, the morning after Christmas (a holiday she hasn't celebrated in years), she's sitting with mounting losses: him, her cats, her therapist (on maternity leave), and still no SSDI decision. She talks about the freeze response - when there are too many losses at once to cope with - and w...

Episode 6: Survival Doesn't Always Look Healthy 29.11.2025

Jill re-introduces what Both/And means for survival - not just surviving trauma - surviving life after trauma, pain that won't go away, and accepting that maybe this is as good as it gets. She talks about the man she's never met and fell in love with anyway, why her nervous system won't let go even though her brain knows better, and what it means when accepting breadcrumbs is the only...

Episode 5: Survival Instincts 18.11.2025

Jill hasn't recorded in weeks - ADHD and C-PTSD make sticking with things nearly impossible. In this episode, she shares what rock bottom looked like 18 years ago when she was dying from an eating disorder, the survival instincts that saved her life, and why she's hoping those instincts return when she needs them again. She's facing her SSDI disability hearing results, potential homele...

Episode 4: Love and Hate 05.11.2025

This week, Jill explores the both/and of loving and hating simultaneously - for the Green Bay Packers and for someone she's never met but fell in love with anyway. She talks about emotion dysregulation, why she can't just 'stop watching' or 'walk away,' and what it means to hold two impossible feelings at once while hoping 'what if they come back?' Love is foundatio...

Episode 3: Not Stupid, Just Unseen 29.10.2025

This week, Jill shares what happened when she bravely told someone about the podcast - and got crickets. The rejection and isolation brought up a blog post she wrote years ago about being Autistic and neurodivergent in a neurotypical world, feeling misunderstood, and masking through 'cute weird' vs 'scary weird.' She explores the both/and of understanding your brain works different...

Episode 2: Confidence in Failure 23.10.2025

In this episode, Jill talks about confidence in failure, her lifelong struggle to write her story, and how a late-in-life ADHD diagnosis helped her understand why. Now, she's finally making progress with an unlikely assistant: AI. She reflects on what it means to do something imperfectly and keep going anyway - the both/and of survival.

Episode 1: Pilot - Who I Am & Why I'm Here 21.10.2025

In this pilot episode, Jill introduces herself and the Both/And podcast. She shares her story - living with autism, ADHD, C-PTSD, and chronic emotional pain - and explains why she's creating a survival podcast for people who are tired of toxic positivity and recovery culture. You'll learn about the both/and framework from dialectical behavior therapy (DBT), why choosing both/and over eithe...

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