Natalie Gochnour, Shireen Ghorbani, John Dougall
Both Sides of the Aisle
Both Sides of the Aisle is a weekly debate over politics, policy and current issues facing the state of Utah, featuring voices representing the Right, the Center, and the Left. Representing Right is State Auditor John Dougall (R), on the Left is former Salt Lake County Councilwoman Shireen Ghorbani (D), and speaking for the “common sense middle” is Natalie Gochnour, an associate dean in the David Eccles School of Business and director of the Kem C. Gardner Policy Institute at the University of Utah. The show is produced by Anthony Scoma. Both Sides of the Aisle attempts to help you understand...
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Jul 9, 2026
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Episodes
Salt Lake City Mayor Erin Mendenhall 17.07.2025 26:05
Natalie Gochnour and Shireen Ghorbani interview Erin Mendenhall, Mayor of Salt Lake City.
Texas floods, America Party, federal injunctions, and public education 11.07.2025 25:59
Our hosts discuss the lack of flood warnings in Texas, the Supreme Court's curbing of lower courts' injunctive powers, and cuts to Utah's education programs.
International uncertainty, the Senate's budget bill, and Utah drought 03.07.2025 25:48
Our hosts discuss the long-term consequences of U.S. policy in the Middle East, the tie-breaking Senate budget vote, and state water pricing.
Iran, the U.S. Constitution's war powers, and federal public lands 25.06.2025 25:53
John Dougall and Shireen Ghorbani discuss the U.S. bombing of Iran, Utah's public lands, and the 2026 veto referendum on public sector bargaining.
Israel and Iran, No Kings Day protests, and the Minnesota assassin 19.06.2025 25:53
Our hosts discuss the missile strikes in Tel Aviv and Tehran, the tragic death of Arthur Folasa Ah Loo, and Sen. Mike Lee's social media firestorm.
LA protests, the Trump-Musk feud, tax policy, and Utah's children 12.06.2025 25:53
Our hosts discuss the domestic deployment of U.S. Marines, weakening public health institutions, and the logic behind trickle-down economics.
Gazan children, Senate budget deliberations, NEPA, and Utah Pride 05.06.2025 25:52
Our hosts discuss what they hope to see in the Senate budget, SCOTUS siding with Utah on an oil rail line, and how Utahns navigate Pride month.
The House's budget, Trump's memecoin dinner, and student visas 29.05.2025 25:53
Our hosts discuss the 'Big Beautiful Bill,' the phase-out of pennies, religious school funding, Cox's message to Trump, and Utah's tourism industry.
Russia, Qatar, the Utah GOP convention, and obscenity 22.05.2025 25:52
Our hosts discuss Trump's trip to the Middle East, his endorsement of the Utah GOP chair, and allegations of insider trading within the presidential cabinet.
Former Salt Lake County Councilmember Jim Bradley 15.05.2025 28:02
Shireen Ghorbani talks with Former Councilmember Jim Bradley about his decades of experience in Utah politics and on the Salt Lake County Council.
Political party realignment and Utah's future 13.05.2025 25:53
Our hosts discuss shifting party platforms, Trump's influence, global trade, and political personalities to watch.
Canada, Trump's first one hundred days, and Utah's public-sector unions 01.05.2025 25:53
Our hosts discuss Trump and Zelensky speaking at the papal funeral, Trump's steep decline in approval, and the principles that guide the Utah Compact on immigration.
SCOTUS, the Federal Reserve, and funding for U.S. universities 24.04.2025 25:47
Our hosts discuss Utah's unemployment rate during recessions, Sen. Mike Lee's social media presence, and the legacy of the post-World War II global order.
Deportation, federal regulation, due process, and AOC in SLC 17.04.2025 25:53
Our hosts discuss El Salvadoran prisons, global trade, the self-deportation of Utah students, and the public union referendum push.
Tariff crisis, federal budget negotiations, and MAHA in Utah 10.04.2025 25:44
Our hosts discuss the on-again-off-again U.S. tariffs, the IRS working with ICE, and Utah's fertility rate falling to tenth in the nation.
Soft power, income inequality, economic determinism, and the veto period 03.04.2025 25:52
Our hosts discuss Trump's first months in office, the Democrats' electoral future, the role of money in politics, and what Utah bills became law.
Cybersecurity, the 'Fighting Oligarchy' tour, and town halls 27.03.2025 25:53
Our hosts discuss a controversial Signal channel between high-ranking Trump officials, political theatrics across the U.S. and Utah, and the governor's veto.
Trump's performance, Senate Democrats, Sundance, and the U.S. Education Department 20.03.2025 25:53
Our hosts discuss reciprocal tariffs, Schumer, the federal balance of power, and why the Sundance Film Festival is considering a Utah exit.
Ukraine, Canada, tariffs, and the 2025 Utah Legislative Session post-mortem 13.03.2025 26:02
Our hosts discuss global affairs, recession projections, entitlement cuts, the vote-by-mail rollback, and pride flags.
Trump's address, the economy, and the close of the 2025 legislative session 06.03.2025 25:53
Our hosts discuss the state of the presidency, the economy, and Utah legislation.
Medicaid, federal jobs, Utah judges, voting by mail, and fluoride 27.02.2025 25:53
Our hosts discuss Ukraine, potential Medicaid cuts and federal employment, judicial reforms, and income tax in Utah.
US-Russia talks, the administrative state, and Utah's public records 20.02.2025 27:03
Our hosts discuss Ukraine's exclusion from peace negotiations, DOGE, RFK Jr. in at HHS, and a Utah bill on sex ed.
Utah taxation, revenue, and budget 13.02.2025 25:53
Our hosts discuss state taxes with a chief economist and the Utah Senate's Revenue and Taxation Committee chair.
USAID, Elon Musk, tariffs, and the future of Utah elections 06.02.2025 25:53
Our hosts discuss the fallout from cutting international aid and imposing tariffs and the shifting landscape of Utah elections.
Federal funding, the media, and proposed Utah legislation 30.01.2025 25:53
Our hosts discuss the constitutionality of halting appropriated federal funds and the future of collective bargaining for Utah's public employees.
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