Natalie Gochnour, Shireen Ghorbani, John Dougall

Both Sides of the Aisle

Both Sides of the Aisle is a weekly debate over politics, policy and current issues facing the state of Utah, featuring voices representing the Right, the Center, and the Left. Representing Right is State Auditor John Dougall (R), on the Left is former Salt Lake County Councilwoman Shireen Ghorbani (D), and speaking for the “common sense middle” is Natalie Gochnour, an associate dean in the David Eccles School of Business and director of the Kem C. Gardner Policy Institute at the University of Utah. The show is produced by Anthony Scoma. Both Sides of the Aisle attempts to help you understand...

Author

Natalie Gochnour, Shireen Ghorbani, John Dougall

Category

Government

Podcast website

www.upr.org

Latest episode

Jul 9, 2026

Where to listen?

Podcasts in the app Replaio Radio Coming soon

Podcasts are coming to the app soon. Install now and be the first to see a whole new take on podcasts

Get it on Google Play Install for free Android 5M+ downloads · 4.8 rating iOS soon

Episodes

Trump's foreign policy and the fatal Minnesota ICE shooting 15.01.2026

Our hosts discuss President Trump's agenda in Iran, Cuba, and Venezuela, and the circumstances that led to an ICE agent killing a Minnesota woman.

Venezuela, the 'Donroe Doctrine,' and the new year ahead 08.01.2026

Our hosts discuss the U.S. removal of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro and what this means for the future of both countries.

Utah Gov. Gary Herbert 02.01.2026

Shireen and Natalie chat with the former Utah governor about his life, lessons from his time in politics, and why he believes Utah is an example for the nation.

Utah's top challenges and opportunities 25.12.2025

Our hosts discuss the most significant challenges and opportunities facing the state of Utah at the close of 2025.

Utah Reps. Tyler Clancy and Grant Miller 18.12.2025

Shireen Ghorbani is joined by Utah Reps. Tyler Clancy and Grant Miller for an in-depth discussion of the contributors and potential solutions to homelessness.

Utah Rep. Doug Owens 11.12.2025

Shireen and Natalie talk to Utah Rep. Doug Owens about bipartisan congressional representation, the cascading benefits of Utah's public lands, and the necessary steps to save the Great Salt Lake.

Trump administration controversies, future U.S. representation, and the 2034 Olympics 04.12.2025

Our hosts discuss recent controversial actions taken by the Trump administration, how current members of Congress will adapt to the new Utah maps, and the new Utah branding of the 2034 Olympic Games.

Shutdown post-mortem, Epstein's emails, and the future population of Utah 20.11.2025

Our hosts discuss the longest U.S. government shutdown in history, the political fallout from Jeffrey Epstein's emails, and the controversy brewing over cloud seeding.

New congressional districts and the Utah Legislature's appeal prospect 13.11.2025

Our hosts discuss the potential constitutional crisis and political opportunities stemming from Judge Gibson's Nov. 10th ruling that tossed the Legislature's preferred map out on grounds of 'extreme' gerrymander.

2025 election results, tariffs, and detention facilities coming to Utah 06.11.2025

Our hosts discuss the politics of the election day victors, SCOTUS hearing a case concerning the Trump tariff regime, and predict when the federal government shutdown will come to an end.

Canadian trade talks, federal food benefits, and defining fairness 30.10.2025

Our hosts discuss why Trump halted trade negotiations with Canada, how the federal government shutdown will affect national food insecurity, and which party will pick Utah Rep. Daniel Thatcher's replacement.

Argentina bailout, No Kings protests, and expanding the Utah Supreme Court 23.10.2025

Our hosts discuss the $40 billion U.S. bailout of Argentina, record-breaking attendance at No Kings protests, and Gov. Cox's thoughts on packing the Utah Supreme Court.

International affairs, President Trump, and 'partisan symmetry' 16.10.2025

Our hosts discuss the escalating trade war with China, U.S. bombing ships in the Caribbean, the Gaza ceasefire deal, and how Judge Gibson will evaluate Utah congressional maps.

Shutdown politics, judicial pushback, and new Utah congressional maps 09.10.2025

Our hosts discuss how the federal government could avoid future shutdowns, the national and state fight over university funding, and how new Utah electoral maps could reshape state politics.

Federal shutdown, new military policies, and a tragic week for the LDS faith 02.10.2025

Our hosts discuss the economic and local impacts of the federal government shutdown, what President Trump told top military leaders, and the passing of LDS President Russell M. Nelson.

Censorship, food insecurity, and vaccination eligibility 25.09.2025

John Dougall and Shireen Ghorbani discuss the FCC chair's threat to late-night host Jimmy Kimmel, the chilling effect on speech, and the cancellation of the federal report on national food insecurity.

Charlie Kirk, political violence, and the Utah Supreme Court 18.09.2025

Our hosts discuss the murder of Charlie Kirk in Utah, how we improve our political divisions, and the Utah Supreme Court's rejection of retaining existing congressional maps.

Vaccines, the Second Amendment, and the Utah Supreme Court 11.09.2025

Our hosts discuss HHS Sec. Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s combative Congressional hearing, vaccine mandates, and a proposed ban on gun ownership for transgender people.

Domestic violence, crime, isolationism, and Utah congressional maps 04.09.2025

Our hosts discuss domestic violence and its link to Utah homicides, the international coalition forming against U.S. tariffs, and how and when Utah will redraw its congressional seats.

The national fight over redistricting and the Utah judiciary 28.08.2025

Our hosts discuss medical research funding, Gov. Newsom's internet trolling, the ongoing fight over Utah congressional maps, and the future of mail-in voting.

Alaska summit, the Smithsonian Institution, and energy permitting 21.08.2025

Our hosts discuss Russia, NATO, United States history, and who controls the balance of power in Washington, D.C.

Trump, municipal primaries, toxic dust, and Ty Burrell 14.08.2025

Our hosts discuss Trump's meeting with Putin in Alaska, how ranked-choice voting works, and what is necessary to save the Great Salt Lake.

Tariffs, unemployment, public broadcasting, and gerrymandering 07.08.2025

Our hosts discuss the firing of the head of the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the redistricting showdown in Texas, and how tariffs impact Utah's bid for global commerce.

Sophia DiCaro and the Utah state budget 31.07.2025

Natalie Gochnour and Shireen Ghorbani interview Sophia DiCaro, the executive director of the Utah Governor’s Office of Planning and Budget.

Utah trivia, triumphs, and challenges 24.07.2025

Our hosts celebrate Pioneer Day with a discussion of Utah facts, novel achievements, and its biggest struggles as a state.

Listen to the Both Sides of the Aisle podcast in Replaio

Radio and podcasts in one app - free, with no sign-up. Install today and do not miss the launch

Get it on Google Play

Replaio is not a podcast publisher; show names, artwork and audio belong to their authors and are distributed through public RSS feeds.