Natalie Gochnour, Shireen Ghorbani, John Dougall
Both Sides of the Aisle
Both Sides of the Aisle is a weekly debate over politics, policy and current issues facing the state of Utah, featuring voices representing the Right, the Center, and the Left. Representing Right is State Auditor John Dougall (R), on the Left is former Salt Lake County Councilwoman Shireen Ghorbani (D), and speaking for the “common sense middle” is Natalie Gochnour, an associate dean in the David Eccles School of Business and director of the Kem C. Gardner Policy Institute at the University of Utah. The show is produced by Anthony Scoma. Both Sides of the Aisle attempts to help you understand...
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Natalie Gochnour, Shireen Ghorbani, John Dougall
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Jul 9, 2026
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Episodes
Tim Hawkes, chair of the Great Salt Lake Advisory Council 09.07.2026 25:50
Our hosts discuss the importance of the Great Salt Lake, the danger posed by its disappearance, and how water conservation can protect Utahns' health, environment, and economy.
America 250 02.07.2026 25:29
Our hosts discuss Independence Day traditions, U.S. leaders and icons, patriotism, and the meaning of the American dream.
Iran, Cuba, the Reflecting Pool, and AI pushback 25.06.2026 25:44
Our hosts discuss U.S. relations with Iran and Cuba, algae blooming in the Reflecting Pool, and how resistance to AI and data centers is reshaping Utah politics.
World Cup 2026, US-Iran memorandum, and Utah's new justices 18.06.2026 25:23
Our hosts discuss the World Cup matches taking place across North America, the world's first trillionaire, and the cost of expanding the Utah Supreme Court.
Trump, ICE and CBP funding package, and the audit of Utah voter rolls 12.06.2026 25:39
Our hosts discuss President Trump's attendance at the Knicks NBA Finals game, Congress's passage of a $70 billion funding package for ICE and CBP, and the results from the audit of Utah's voter rolls.
Gas prices, America's 250th, and the 2024 Democratic post-mortem 04.06.2026 25:43
Shireen and John discuss affordability, the rush to prepare for the United States' semiquincentennial, and the DNC's faulty autopsy of their 2024 presidential campaign.
Sarah Wright and Glade Sowards 28.05.2026 24:42
Natalie Gochnour interviews Sarah Wright, CEO and founder of Utah Clean Energy, and Glade Sowards, senior energy and climate program manager with the Salt Lake City Corporation.
Trump's China trip, a new Federal Reserve chair, and data center pushback 21.05.2026 25:50
Our hosts discuss President Trump's trip to China, Kevin Warsh's plans to change the Federal Reserve, and the increasing state and local scrutiny of Utah data centers.
2026 Wilkes Climate Summit live show 14.05.2026 25:52
Our hosts record live at the 2026 Wilkes Climate Summit and discuss data centers, water usage, energy demand, and climate solutions.
King Charles III, Box Elder County data center, and the Utah Supreme Court 07.05.2026 25:35
Our hosts discuss the Republican Party's political strategy going into the midterm elections, the demise of Spirit Airlines, and the battle over a 63 square mile data center in Box Elder County.
Attempted assassination, gerrymandering, and Utah party conventions 01.05.2026 25:30
Our hosts discuss the failed assassination attempt on President Trump at the White House Correspondents' Dinner, the Democratic gerrymander of Virginia, and the results from the political party conventions in Utah.
Global economic shocks, measles, and Utah's congressional campaigns 23.04.2026 25:14
Our hosts discuss Congress' rejection of a war powers resolution on Iran, growing transmission rates of measles in Utah, and how past online comments may derail Utah Sen. Nate Blouin's campaign for Congress.
Naval blockades, Pope Leo, and Utah congressional races 16.04.2026 25:22
Our hosts discuss the U.S. Navy beginning patrols in the Strait of Hormuz, President Trump's online fight with Pope Leo XIV, and updates from Utah's congressional campaigns.
Iran ceasefire, 25th Amendment, and the next US attorney general 09.04.2026 25:50
Our hosts discuss the fragile U.S.-Iran ceasefire, calls for invoking the 25th Amendment, and whether Sen. Mike Lee will be picked as U.S. attorney general.
Vote by mail, Iran war address, and the U.S. Forest Service in Utah 02.04.2026 25:14
Our hosts discuss the Supreme Court hearing oral argument on birthright citizenship, President Trump's Iran war address to the nation, and the judge halting Trump's White House ballroom construction.
Global price hikes, Utah voter data, and the future of Prop 4 26.03.2026 25:42
Our hosts discuss how war in the Middle East is driving up fuel and fertilizer prices, airport delays across the country, and the withdrawal of signatures from the Prop 4 repeal effort.
The Strait of Hormuz, the SAVE Act, and ICE in SLC 19.03.2026 25:43
Our hosts discuss Iranian control of the Strait of Hormuz, the SAVE Act in the Senate, and ICE's purchase of a warehouse in Salt Lake City.
War with Iran and the end of Utah's 2026 legislative session 12.03.2026 25:23
Our hosts discuss the escalating war in the Middle East, its political impact in the U.S., and what bills the Utah Legislature passed in the 2026 general session.
Utah State Auditor Tina Cannon 06.03.2026 25:44
Shireen and John sit down with Utah's first female state auditor to discuss her political principles, the work of the auditor's office, and how to increase transparency in local and state government.
Iran, Board of Peace, tariff ruling, and Prop 4 repeal efforts 26.02.2026 25:40
Our hosts discuss the U.S.-Iran nuclear talks, the increase in U.S. forces around Iran, President Trump's Board of Peace, and the Supreme Court's ruling on Trump's tariff powers.
Utah's 2027 budget recommendations with Sophia DiCaro 19.02.2026 25:50
Shireen Ghorbani sits down with Sophia DiCaro to discuss the governor's proposals for Utah's 2027 budget.
Winter Olympics, Super Bowl halftime, and Utah Supreme Court expansion 12.02.2026 25:51
Our hosts discuss the Olympics, the Super Bowl, the University of Utah’s new $4.5 million statue, data centers, and the expansion of the Utah Supreme Court.
Steve Waldrip, senior advisor for housing strategy and innovation 06.02.2026 25:53
Natalie and Shireen sit down with the senior advisor on housing for Gov. Cox to discuss how the state hopes to house more Utahns.
Erosion of global institutions, DHS, and the State of the State 30.01.2026 25:41
Our hosts discuss the fraying of world order, problems with the Department of Homeland Security, and whether U.S. citizens' rights are still unalienable after 250 years.
President Trump's first year and the 2026 Utah Legislative Session 23.01.2026 25:40
Our hosts discuss their biggest surprises in the first year since Trump's inauguration, Trump's letter to the Norwegian prime minister, and the start of the Utah legislative session.
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