MIK MADE

Black T-Shirts

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Thinkerbell founder Adam Ferrier and leading CMO Brent Smart host a show that celebrates creativity in marketing. Each episode they chat with a leading creative or marketer about them and their work and see if a famous piece of creative work passes the focus group test. Black T-Shirts, it’s XXL Creativity for Marketers.

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MIK MADE

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Latest episode

Nov 27, 2025

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Episodes

Chris Yee: Eastwood & AI - Live at SXSW Sydney 27.11.2025

In this special edition of Black T Shirts recorded live at SXSW Sydney & presented by our friends at Adobe, we sit down with multidisciplinary artist Chris Yee for a wide-open conversation on the future of creativity. Chris breaks down how AI is reshaping the creative workflow, why the neighbourhoods we grow up in leave fingerprints on our art, and what “authenticity” actually means in a world whe...

The Great Unlearning: Live From The B&T Breakfast 09.09.2025

Recorded live at the B&T Breakfast powered by Mutinex, this special Black T-Shirts episode explores the things marketers have had to unlearn to move forward. With Henry Innis (Founder, Mutinex) and Clare Tsunobo (Head of Media, Lion) joining the conversation, the panel unpacks media myths, creativity clichés, and the evolving role of data in shaping marketing today. This isn’t a how-to guide, it’s...

Susan Credle - Creative Space & Brand Characters 23.06.2025

In this episode of The Black T-Shirts Podcast, we sit down with legendary creative leader Susan Credle, former Global Chief Creative Officer at FCB Global. Known for her bold thinking and breakthrough work, Susan shares her insights into the power of creative environments, the art of character development, and the enduring impact of storytelling in brand building. The creative force behind iconic...

Going Rogue & Chicken Handbags: Live At Mumbrella 360 06.06.2025

Recorded live at this year’s Mumbrella360, this special episode of The Black T-Shirts Podcast revisits the most powerful insights from some of their favourite guests. From hard-won lessons in creativity to surprising truths about success. Then, in front of a live audience, the hosts flip the script and put themselves to the pub test. Are they living by the wisdom they preach? Are the beers cold? A...

Sam Rowlands: Killer Stats and Pink Chips 29.05.2025

This week on Black T-Shirts, we're joined by Sam Rowlands, a multi-award-winning Creative Lead and Art Director at global innovation agency AKQA. Sam takes us back to her roots, growing up on a farm outside a small town in rural Australia, and shares how that upbringing shaped her perspective and creative grit. We trace her journey from the country to the cutting edge of global creative work and u...

Luke & John McKelvey: Celebrity Culture and Ocean Views 21.05.2025

In this episode of Black T-Shirts, we dive into the sun-soaked world of celebrity culture, branding, and the creative chaos behind global campaigns with Luke and John McKelvey — the visionary brothers behind creative agency MIRIMAR. From ocean views to red carpets, the McKelveys unpack how they turn cultural moments into marketing magic for some of the world’s biggest stars and brands.

Kim Gehrig: Singing Vaginas and The Creative Skewer 15.05.2025

In this episode, we sit down with director Kim Gehrig, whose work spans iconic campaigns like This Girl Can, “Play it Safe” for The Sydney Opera House and of course, “Viva la Vulva” for Libresse. Plus some of the most famous spots for Apple and Nike We chat about what drives her to tell the stories she does, the pressure to keep pushing creative boundaries, and why it’s worth fighting for work tha...

Phill Agnew: Hard Graft and Soft Nudges 06.05.2025

In this episode of The Black T-Shirts Podcast, we’re joined by Phill Agnew, host of Nudge, the only podcast dedicated to consumer psychology. Phill shares his journey from hard-grafting marketer to one of the leading voices in behavioural science for brands, breaking down how tiny tweaks in messaging can create major shifts in behaviour. We dig into how behavioural science can be applied across th...

Brooke Hammerling: Pop Culture and Public Relations 30.04.2025

This week on The Black T-Shirts Podcast, we sit down with Brooke Hammerling legendary PR strategist, founder of boutique agency The New Thing, and the creative force behind the beloved newsletter, podcast, and meme empire Pop Culture Mondays. Brooke shares her journey from shaping the narrative for some of tech’s biggest names to becoming a go-to voice in pop culture commentary (with a little help...

Chris Beresford Hill - Big Things and Creative Details 23.04.2025

In this episode of Black T-Shirts, we sit down with Chris Beresford-Hill, a creative heavyweight with advanced degrees in hustle.  In his new role as Worldwide CCO, Chris has helped re-set the vision for the iconic creative house BBDO. Chris unpacks the value of creativity, how to set a creative vision, and have it flow through an organisation. After listening to this episode you'll want to go out...

John Schoolcraft: Mind Control & Milk 15.04.2025

In this episode of The Black T-Shirts Podcast, we sit down with the Global Chief Creative Officer at Oatly, the brand that’s become synonymous with rebellious originality in the plant-based space. Known for leading disruptive, design-first campaigns that put authenticity over algorithms, our guest opens up about the power of exploration projects, building a culture of creative bravery, and why con...

Sherilyn Shackell - Making Marketers and Leading Cults 07.04.2025

Today’s guest? She doesn’t wear a black T-shirt. She builds the people who lead the people who run the brands who sell you the black T-shirts. Sherilyn Shackell—founder of The Marketing Academy. An absolute force of nature, and the woman who decided that leadership training shouldn’t feel like a corporate away-day with soggy sandwiches.

PJ Pereira - Al Coke Trucks & Creative Liberation 31.03.2025

We're back for season 5 and to kick things off we have PJ Pereira. Esteemed novelist, screenwriter, martial arts black-belt and co-founder of award winning creative agency, Pereira O’Del. In this episode, PJ discusses the intersection of AI, creativity, and advertising, exploring how it's reshaping storytelling and creative production and emphasising the importance of embracing new technologies wh...

Gunny Scarfo: Notification and Storytelling 06.11.2024

This week they’re joined by Gunny Scarfo, Co-Founder at Nonfiction Research, creators of uncensored, emotional research studies that have influenced everything from Super Bowl commercials to a Megan Thee Stallion song. In this episode of Black T-Shirts, Gunny Scarfo dives deep into why emotional insights are still the foundation of outstanding creative work, plus details what goes into fostering t...

Live from SxSW Sydney with Henry Innis 29.10.2024

This week is a little different. Adam & Brent are live at South By South West and joined by longtime friend and supporter of the Black T-Shirts podcast, Henry Innis. Henry is also the co-founder and CEO at Mutinex GrowthOS, a marketing mix modelling platform designed to drive growth.

James Hurman: Previously IT and Future Demand 22.10.2024

This week they’re joined by James Hurman, a New Zealand-based entrepreneur, investor, author and advertising effectiveness expert. James is also the founding partner of Previously Unavailable, a creative company that partners with, creates and invests into high-growth startup companies.

Johnnie Ingram: We Have Notes On This Episode 15.10.2024

This week they’re joined by Johnnie Ingram, Award Winning Executive Producer, Creative Director, Director & Show Creator of We’re Here — the unscripted series that follows drag queens as they prepare to perform in small conservative towns.

Wanda Pogue: Post Creative Strategy 08.10.2024

In this episode of Black T-Shirts, Wanda Pogue, Global Chief Strategy Officer of Vayner Media, speaks to how her understanding of creative strategy has evolved from her days at Saatchi & Saatchi to now being on the trailblazing side of the industry in an agency that prides itself in finding innovative new ways to tell brands’ stories.

AI Merry: The Title For This Episode Could Be Better 01.10.2024

In this episode of Black T-Shirts, Al Merry chats to Adam and Brent about what it takes to move from being a creative to founding and running a creative business at the blistering pace set by the current advertising landscape.  The interview touches on many tensions faced by creatives and the creative industry today. Perhaps the most relatable point of contention is the tension faced between a foc...

Mia Freedman & Nat Harvey: Sex toys, Super, and Strife 24.09.2024

In this episode of Black T-Shirts, Co-founder and creative force Mia Freedman leads with her passion for authentic, women-first storytelling, while CEO Nat Harvey details what it takes to run Australia's largest independent women's media group. Sex toys, superannuation and the issues facing some of Australia's traditional media outlets are discussed in this frank conversation with one of Australia...

Davo, Dancing and Creative Direction 18.09.2024

This week they’re joined by David Hallberg, Artistic Director of The Australian Ballet. David, or Davo to his mates, was one of the world's most renowned dancers, having been a principal dancer with both the American Ballet Theatre and the Bolshoi Ballet, before becoming Artistic Director of The Australian Ballet. In this episode of Black T-Shirts, David discusses what it takes to have creative i...

Erin Riley Disruption and Rigour 12.09.2024

On this weeks episode of Black T Shirts Adam and Brent are joined by the newly appointed CEO of TBWA Worldwide, Erin Riley.  We go deep into the ever changing agency landscape as they talk about the disruption mindset that a global company TBWA embodies in their creativity.

Sir Martin Sorrell - Big and Little Thinking 03.09.2024

Black T - Shirts is back with a bang. Sir Martin Sorrell, a titan of the advertising world, joins us for an unmissable episode. From his early career at Saatchi & Saatchi to founding WPP, to exploring the future of advertising with the Monks, Sir Martin has shaped the industry in ways few others have. Adam tries to sell Thinkerbell, and then we put S4 to the ultimate challenge: the Pub Test.

Rory Sutherland: Two Way Doors & Being Distinctive 17.05.2024

Welcome back to the next episode of black t-shirts! Rory Sutherland, Vice Chairman of Ogilvy UK, needs little introduction. With over 30 years of experience and a significant presence in the advertising world and TED talks with millions of views, Rory's insights are bound to be enlightening!

Andre Toledo: Patience & Taking Creative Opportunities 06.05.2024

This weeks guest is Chief Creative Officer at DAVID New York Andre Toledo. In 2019, André opened DAVID Madrid in a small 10-person WeWork office In just one year, DAVID Madrid grew from 3 to 35 people and went from having no clients to a portfolio of acclaimed local and global campaigns, including a Super Bowl spot for Turkish Airlines

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