David Rufner, Jared Townley, Ben Haupt
Bitcoin Reformation Podcast
Welcome to the Bitcoin Reformation Podcast. We're three pastors who love the Gospel, the Reformation, and Bitcoin. We want to invite you into a conversation with us. We're not financial advisors, and nothing that we say on this show should be taken as financial advice. We don't promise any kind of returns even if we speculate about them. We simply want to study this new technology of Bitcoin alongside of you, invite you into the conversation, and welcome you into how we're thinking about it as we ourselves study Bitcoin.
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David Rufner, Jared Townley, Ben Haupt
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Jul 1, 2026
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Episodes
52 Bitcoin Makes Delayed Gratification Easier 01.07.2026 1:00:57
Have a question or comment for us? Email us at bitcoinreformationpodcast@gmail.comWelcome back to the Bitcoin Reformation Podcast. This week, we explore how the Stanford marshmallow experiment helps us think about saving and ultimately, Bitcoin. We talk about delayed gratification, saving, and how inflation can move financial “finish lines” (like housing and building costs), encouraging spending...
51 Crafting Better Government or People? 17.06.2026 55:11
Have a question or comment for us? Email us at bitcoinreformationpodcast@gmail.comVirtue Politics, Soulcraft vs. Statecraft, and Why Bitcoin Persuades Without Coercion | Bitcoin Reformation PodcastWe welcome Ben Haupt back to the Bitcoin Reformation Podcast (with Jared absent) and catch up on family and ministry life before turning to church and cultural questions. Ben addresses recent accusatio...
050 Unique Way to Buy Bitcoin | Interview with Sovana CEO Sanjay Mavinkurve 03.06.2026 59:11
Have a question or comment for us? Email us at bitcoinreformationpodcast@gmail.com Visit sovana.io On the Bitcoin Reformation podcast, two pastors interview Sanjay Mavin Kurve, co-founder and CEO of Sovana ( sovana.io ), about a new Bitcoin-related product that lets property owners tap home equity for Bitcoin exposure without monthly or upfront payments. Sanjay shares his background in compute...
049 Hurdle Rate: The Number No One is Talking About 20.05.2026 57:27
Have a question or comment for us? Email us at bitcoinreformationpodcast@gmail.com Welcome back to the Bitcoin Reformation Podcast - where three LCMS pastors talk about their love for Jesus and Bitcoin. This week on the podcast, they introduce the “hurdle rate” as the rising bar households must clear as inflation and cost of living increase, criticizing CPI “basket” changes and noting gas and h...
048 Confusion About Stewardship: Money, Idols, and Living in a Received World (with Bitcoin) 06.05.2026 55:33
Have a question or comment for us? Email us at bitcoinreformationpodcast@gmail.com Two Christian pastors on the Bitcoin Reformation Podcast share life updates—post-Easter busyness, kids’ stories, family visits, a missed Mount Whitney permit, college graduation plans, a Europe trip funded partly by Bitcoin savings, and a son’s baseball home run—before shifting to a faith-focused discussion on st...
047 Before the 2026 Bitcoin Conference 22.04.2026 59:07
Have a question or comment for us? Email us at bitcoinreformationpodcast@gmail.com With the 2026 Bitcoin Conference in Las Vegas just around the corner in the last week of April, Jared Townley and David Rufner explore what they are hoping to see and hear about at the 2026 Bitcoin Conference. From price, quantum computing, political movement, and much more, this episode is a catch-all for the la...
046 What Actually Makes Good Money? 01.04.2026 1:11:03
Have a question or comment for us? Email us at bitcoinreformationpodcast@gmail.com Find the image here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/shotki/fidelity_compares_gold_vs_btc_vs_fiat_based_on/ David Rufner and Jared Townley, two pastors on the Bitcoin Reformation Podcast connect Holy Week reflections and Christian apologetics with a “back to basics” question: what makes good money. Usi...
045 Beyond Buying Bitcoin Only… 18.03.2026 55:48
Have a question or comment for us? Email us at bitcoinreformationpodcast@gmail.com David Rufner and Jared Townley, two Lutheran Pastors on the Bitcoin Reformation Podcast discuss how Bitcoin is being used beyond simply buying and holding, offering a layman’s overview of emerging financial products while urging listeners to do their own research. After personal ministry and family updates during...
044 Is Bitcoin Christianity? 04.03.2026 48:33
Have a question or comment for us? Email us at bitcoinreformationpodcast@gmail.com Join Pastor Jared Townley & David Rufner as they explore the similarities and differences between Bitcoin and Christianity. From “proof of work” as a critique of fiat money and as an analogy to Christianity’s claim that the faith stands or falls on historical events, especially Christ’s incarnation, death, an...
043 Bitcoin & Gambling 18.02.2026 51:19
Find the rest of the video here: https://youtu.be/6TODpeuDZ8w Have a question or comment for us? Email us at bitcoinreformationpodcast@gmail.com Join Pastors Jared Townley and David Rufner on the Bitcoin Reformation Podcast as they discuss the complex world of gambling and Bitcoin. They go and forth exploring the pastoral implications of the problems with gambling and the way the fiat system l...
042 Bitcoin is Simple 03.02.2026 55:41
Have a question or comment for us? Email us at bitcoinreformationpodcast@gmail.com In this episode of the Bitcoin Reformation Podcast, Jared Townley and David Rufner, two Lutheran pastors, take Bitcoin and make it simple. While Bitcoin certainly has many complicated and complex parts, this episode is about returning to the basics of what Bitcoin is and why it is so much more simple than we typi...
041 Bitcoin is Not That… Narratives of Bitcoin 21.01.2026 53:54
Have a question or comment for us? Email us at bitcoinreformationpodcast@gmail.com Bitcoin Narratives: Past, Present, and Future - 2026 Insights Welcome to the first episode of the Bitcoin Reformation Podcast in 2026! In this episode, two pastors delve into the evolving narratives around Bitcoin from its controversial beginnings to its current status as sound money. They discuss the Bitcoin ene...
040 The Sin of Our Money 17.12.2025 55:51
Have a question or comment for us? Email us at bitcoinreformationpodcast@gmail.com Join Ben Haupt, David Ruffner, and Jared Townley in this episode of the Bitcoin Reformation Podcast as they dive deep into the concept of energy-backed money. Exploring the thoughts of historical figures like Nikola Tesla and Henry Ford, and linking them to contemporary ideas from Elon Musk, the discussion center...
039 When the Bitcoin Price Goes Down 03.12.2025 40:25
Have a question or comment for us? Email us at bitcoinreformationpodcast@gmail.com Join David and Jared on this episode of the Bitcoin Reformation Podcast, where they dive into the current state of Bitcoin's price and the impact of recent downturns. Listen as they provide personal updates, discuss the fundamentals of Bitcoin, and reflect on how faith in Jesus Christ guides them through fina...
038 Is This Bitcoin’s Tipping Point? 19.11.2025 1:06:14
Have a question or comment for us? Email us at bitcoinreformationpodcast@gmail.com Join three Lutheran pastors in this episode of the Bitcoin Reformation podcast as they delve into the current state of bitcoin adoption and market trends. Discussing insights from adoption curves, recent Bitcoin statistics, and real-life examples, this episode explores the tipping point for Bitcoin going mainstre...
037 Bitcoin is for Normal People 05.11.2025 1:01:24
Have a question or comment for us? Email us at bitcoinreformationpodcast@gmail.com In this episode of the Bitcoin Reformation podcast, hosts Ben Haupt, David Rufner, and Jared Townley dive into the personal stories of everyday people getting into Bitcoin. From handling family crises to exploring investment strategies for retirees, they share experiences that highlight Bitcoin as a secure and pr...
036 Why the Idea of Bitcoin Matters for Christians: Real-World Impact and Advocacy 22.10.2025 1:03:31
Read Gladstein’s Article here: https://muse.jhu.edu/article/970346 Have a question or comment for us? Email us at bitcoinreformationpodcast@gmail.com Join Lutheran pastors Ben, Jared, and David as they dive into the significant and often overlooked benefits of Bitcoin, especially for global ministry and non-profits. In this episode, they discuss Alex Gladstein's article 'Why Bitcoin Is...
035 Businesses Are Adopting Bitcoin | Report from River 08.10.2025 1:00:50
View the report here: https://river.com/learn/files/river-business-report-2025.pdf Have a question or comment for us? Email us at bitcoinreformationpodcast@gmail.com Join the Bitcoin Reformation podcast as hosts Ben Haupt, David Rufner, and Jared Townley delve into a recent report from River.com about the increasing trend of businesses and non-profits adopting Bitcoin. They discuss strategical...
034: Bitcoin in 2035… High or Low? New Report from Bitwise 24.09.2025 55:36
View the report here: https://s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/static.bitwiseinvestments.com/Research/Bitwise-Bitcoin-Long-Term-Capital-Market-Assumptions-2025.pdf Have a question or comment for us? Email us at bitcoinreformationpodcast@gmail.com Join Ben Haupt, David Rufner, and Jared Townley on the Bitcoin Reformation podcast as they explore a compelling new report from Bitwise Investments on Bitcoi...
033 What We’ve Learned in a Year of the Bitcoin Reformation Podcast 10.09.2025 1:11:00
033 What We’ve Learned in a Year of the Bitcoin Reformation Podcast Have a question or comment for us? Email us at bitcoinreformationpodcast@gmail.com Join Lutheran pastors Ben Haupt, Jared Townley, and David Ruffner as they celebrate the one-year anniversary of the Bitcoin Reformation podcast. This special episode covers reflections on their journey, personal life updates, and a deep dive into t...
032 Money is Communication & Language | Understanding Bitcoin Clarity in a Confused Financial World 27.08.2025 1:12:19
Have a question or comment for us? Email us at bitcoinreformationpodcast@gmail.com Join two Lutheran pastors as they delve into the concept of money as a form of communication and how our current monetary system is riddled with confusion and complexity. David and Jared relate personal anecdotes and explore Biblical perspectives on honest scales, while contrasting it with the clear, fixed, and acco...
031 Redeeming Money and Hope | Evaluating Bitcoin 13.08.2025 1:01:11
Visit hope.com Watch last episode here: https://youtu.be/YFbG-VF2yKE Have a question or comment for us? Email us at bitcoinreformationpodcast@gmail.com Join two Lutheran pastors for this episode of the Bitcoin Reformation Podcast as they explore how Bitcoin provides hope and a solid financial future for Christians. Reflecting on a previous conversation with Trevor Sutton about technology and fa...
030 Redeeming Technology: Unveiling the Christian Approach with Trevor Sutton 30.07.2025 44:54
Have a question or comment for us? Email us at bitcoinreformationpodcast@gmail.com Join Ben Haupt, Jared Townley, and special guest Trevor Sutton on this insightful episode of the Bitcoin Reformation podcast. We delve into the fascinating intersection of faith and technology as we discuss Trevor Sutton's book, 'Redeeming Technology: A Christian Approach to Healthy Digital Habits.' Listen to the t...
029 Is It Too Late to Buy Bitcoin? | Why You Haven’t Missed Out 16.07.2025 51:13
Have a question or comment for us? Email us at bitcoinreformationpodcast@gmail.com Join two pastors, David Rufner and Jared Townley from the Bitcoin Reformation Podcast as they tackle the common fears and misconceptions around investing in Bitcoin. With one pastor adjusting to life with a newborn and another sharing personal experiences, they delve into whether it's ever 'too late' to...
028 Building a Bitcoin Dashboard | Taking Emotion Out of Buying & Selling 02.07.2025 1:12:46
Spreadsheet link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lKC1GI6coDUfD-N2w2KayPBdhCL0OAybykmgLnfWRbg/edit?usp=sharingReach out! Email us at bitcoinreformationpodcast@gmail.comIn this episode of the Bitcoin Reformation Podcast, hosts Ben and Jared take you on a detailed, visual journey through a custom-designed Bitcoin tracking spreadsheet. Learn how to manage your Bitcoin investments with precisi...
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