David Rufner, Jared Townley, Ben Haupt
Bitcoin Reformation Podcast
Welcome to the Bitcoin Reformation Podcast. We're three pastors who love the Gospel, the Reformation, and Bitcoin. We want to invite you into a conversation with us. We're not financial advisors, and nothing that we say on this show should be taken as financial advice. We don't promise any kind of returns even if we speculate about them. We simply want to study this new technology of Bitcoin alongside of you, invite you into the conversation, and welcome you into how we're thinking about it as we ourselves study Bitcoin.
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David Rufner, Jared Townley, Ben Haupt
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Jul 1, 2026
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Episodes
027 The Suits Are Here: Mainstream Adoption at Bitcoin Conference 2025 18.06.2025 56:25
Join Ben Haupt and Jared Townley on the latest episode of the Bitcoin Reformation podcast as they discuss Jared's recent trip to the Bitcoin Conference. The episode covers key takeaways from the event, including the growing diversity within the Bitcoin community, the increasing involvement of traditional finance, and insights from notable speakers. Additionally, they explore personal milestone...
026 Bitcoin ETFs vs. Holding Bitcoin: Which is Right for You? | Bitcoin Reformation Podcast 28.05.2025 54:21
Join Ben Haupt, David Rufner, and Jared Townley on the Bitcoin Reformation Podcast as they dive into a comprehensive discussion on Bitcoin ETFs versus holding Bitcoin directly. They explore the pros and cons of each option, discuss the potential tax advantages, and weigh the responsibility of self-custody against the convenience of ETFs. With insights from both personal experiences and industry tr...
025 Bitcoin for Ministry: How Churches Can Preserve Value with a 3% Bitcoin Allocation | Ahshuwah Hawthorne 14.05.2025 48:16
In this episode of Bitcoin Reformation, hosts Ben Haupt, Jared Townley, and David Rufner welcome Ahshuwah Hawthorne, founder of Brilliance Labs. Ahshuwah shares how his organization helps churches and ministries adopt Bitcoin as part of their financial strategy, revealing how even a small 3% Bitcoin allocation can outperform traditional investment portfolios while being less volatile. Ahshuwah dis...
024 Bitcoin as a Tool for Today | What Bitcoin is Good for Now 30.04.2025 1:02:46
Join pastors Jared and David on The Bitcoin Reformation Podcast as they discuss practical ways Bitcoin serves as a tool in everyday life from a Lutheran perspective. In this Easter-season episode, they share personal testimonies of how Bitcoin has helped their families through real financial challenges, supported their values, and provided hope for the future. Learn how Bitcoin isn't just a pr...
023 More Than Wealth & Bitcoin | A Conversation with Financial Planner Jim Crider 16.04.2025 1:11:00
Join Ben, David, and Jared on the latest episode of the Bitcoin Reformation Podcast as they welcome certified financial planner Jim Crider. Listen in as Jim shares his journey from faith and family to financial planning and Bitcoin. They discuss the importance of values-based financial decisions, the impact of Bitcoin on financial planning, and the intricacies of tax and estate planning. Jim also...
022 Bitcoin, Numbers to Know 02.04.2025 1:02:41
Join Ben Haupt, David Rufner, and Jared Townley in the latest episode of the Bitcoin Reformation podcast. This episode covers personal updates and an in-depth discussion on Bitcoin mining, market statistics, and the theological parallels between faith and financial stewardship. Learn about Bitcoin difficulty adjustments, the impact of national deficits, wealth transfer projections, and the signifi...
021 How to Buy Bitcoin: A Beginner's Guide to Exchanges, How Much and When 19.03.2025 1:13:42
Find River at: https://river.com/Find Fold at: https://foldapp.com/Find Strike at: https://strike.meFind Unchained at: https://unchained.com/Find Coinbase at: https://www.coinbase.com/Join Ben, Jared, and David on the latest episode of the Bitcoin Reformation podcast as they reunite to discuss the essentials of buying, holding, and protecting your Bitcoin investments. From personal updates, includ...
020 The Gospel According to Bitcoin with Dan Sherman & Jordan Bush 05.03.2025 1:16:21
Pick up your copy of “The Gospel According to Bitcoin” here: https://a.co/d/iPM2HSK Pick up your copy of “Thank God for Bitcoin” here: https://a.co/d/imuiDXy In this episode of the Bitcoin Reformation Podcast, hosts Ben Haupt and Jared Townley are joined by Thank God for Bitcoin guests Jordan Bush and Dan Sherman to delve into the intersections of faith and Bitcoin. They discuss the backgrounds...
019 Bitcoin as Ministry Infrastructure | Interview with Pastor Ed Doerner 19.02.2025 36:13
Join Ben Haupt, David Rufner, and guest Pastor Ed Doerner in a short, but frame-shifting episode of the Bitcoin Reformation podcast. In this episode, Pastor Ed shares groundbreaking insights into how Bitcoin can revolutionize church finances and ministry operations. From enhancing community outreach through car repair and grocery stores to innovative strategies for mission funding, Ed explains the...
018 Why Bitcoin and Not Crypto? 06.02.2025 1:21:09
In this episode of the Bitcoin Reformation Podcast, hosts Ben Haupt, David Rufner, and Jared Townley delve into the distinctions between Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. They discuss Ben's recent trip to Africa and the impressive adoption of the M-PESA payment system, which even integrates Bitcoin. David shares personal updates from California and comments on his interest in Bitcoin adoptio...
017 Why Does Bitcoin Have Any Value At All? 22.01.2025 56:07
Join Ben Haupt, Jared Townley, and David Rufner in this exciting episode of the Bitcoin Reformation Podcast, as they dive into the question 'Why is Bitcoin Worth Anything At All?', the pastors examine both the supply and demand aspects of Bitcoin's value. They touch on the electricity cost in Bitcoin mining, the fixed supply protocol, adoption metrics, and comparisons to traditional commodities. T...
016 Bitcoin Concepts Explained Part 2: Gresham’s Law, Lindy Effect, Game Theory 08.01.2025 46:15
Join three Lutheran pastors as they discuss their personal holiday experiences, share updates on their lives, and delve into a comprehensive discussion on Bitcoin. They address common misconceptions, highlight the significance of the Lindy effect, Gresham's law, and game theory, and reflect on Bitcoin's current standing and future potential. This episode provides a thoughtful examination of how Bi...
015 Bitcoin Concepts Explained: Network Effects, Metcalfe's Law & the Cantillon Effect 26.12.2024 52:23
Metcalfe’s Law as a Model for Bitcoin’s Value: https://caia.org/sites/default/files/metcalfeslaw_websiteupload_7-5-18.pdf Merry Christmas and welcome back to another episode of the Bitcoin Reformation Podcast! Join Ben Haupt, Jared Townley, and David Ruffner as they delve into a some of the terms and socialogical ideas surrounding Bitcoin. Today on the podcast, they explore key economic concepts...
014 Tuttle Twins, Cartoons, and Bitcoin? 11.12.2024 1:05:41
Watch the Tuttle Twins Episode here: https://youtu.be/hSZyUI6rbC8 Join three Lutheran pastors on the Bitcoin Reformation Podcast as they dive into a detailed analysis of a Tuttle Twins episode about Bitcoin. The discussion centers around concepts like inflation, controlled money, and the decentralization of Bitcoin. They assess how these concepts can impact everyday life and even broader societal...
013 Reformation Roots of Bitcoin: From Martin Luther to Bitcoin 26.11.2024 1:22:18
The Reformation's Legacy: From Martin Luther to Bitcoin Join Ben Haupt, Jared Townley, and David Rufner as they explore the intriguing connections between the Reformation, led by Martin Luther, and continued to the modern Bitcoin movement. This episode of the Bitcoin Reformation podcast traces the historical lineage from the 16th century Reformers through key thinkers like John Milton, Jonathan Sw...
012 Why Every Non-Profit & Church Should Consider Bitcoin to Fund & Accomplish their Mission & Vision 14.11.2024 1:23:54
hould Your Church and Non-Profit Invest in Bitcoin? 3 Pastors Explain Why Join three Lutheran pastors as they delve into a compelling discussion on why churches and non-profits should consider Bitcoin as part of their financial strategies. Referencing reports from financial giants and real-world examples, this episode addresses the common fears and misconceptions about Bitcoin and explores how it...
011 Don't Trust, Verify 22.10.2024 1:23:07
In this episode of the Bitcoin Reformation podcast, hosts Ben Haupt, Jared Townley, and David Rufner explore the intersections of Bitcoin, theology, and decentralization. Through discussions on 'Don't Trust, Verify' and Lutheran theology, they emphasize the importance of evidence and verification in both Bitcoin transactions and faith. Key references include Aaron Van Wirdum's The Genesis Book , t...
010 Fiat, Faith & Bitcoin: Exploring the Intersection 01.10.2024 1:13:37
In this episode of the Bitcoin Reformation podcast, three pastors—Jared, Ben, and David—engage in a lively discussion about Bitcoin, the concept of fiat currency, and how these relate to Christian theology. The conversation begins with personal updates and transitions into a nuanced discussion of 'fiat' in both theological and economic contexts. They explore how Bitcoin stands as an alternative to...
009 What Would Jesus Think of Bitcoin? 14.09.2024 50:08
In this episode of the Bitcoin Reformation podcast, the hosts engage in a multifaceted discussion about the intersection of faith and Bitcoin. Covering personal updates and life moments, the conversation transitions to topics including the ethical implications and societal impact of Bitcoin. They explore how Bitcoin could align with Christian values, especially concerning just economic systems, fa...
008 Does Bitcoin Fix the Money & Thus Fix the World? 05.09.2024 1:23:28
Join Ben Haupt, Jared Townley, and David Ruffner in this episode of the Bitcoin Reformation podcast as they explore the intersections of Bitcoin, modern economics, and theology from a Lutheran Christian perspective. They explore the Bitcoiner slogan 'Fix the money, fix the world' and its potential to address societal and economic issues by examining the intersections of Bitcoin with Christian theo...
007 Talking with Bitcoin Skeptic Sam Sessa 12.08.2024 1:41:31
Talking with Bitcoin Skeptic Sam Sessa Join hosts Ben Haupt, David Ruffner, and Jared Townley in another episode of the Bitcoin Reformation Podcast as they explore the real-world utility and environmental impact of Bitcoin. Featuring their first guest, Lutheran pastor and Bitcoin skeptic Sam Sessa. The discussion delves into practical use cases, societal implications, and Bitcoin's function as a c...
006 What It Means To Own Bitcoin 19.07.2024 1:13:37
What It Means To Own Bitcoin: From Exchanges to Self-Custody Join Ben, David, and Jared in this episode of the Bitcoin Reformation Podcast as they dive deep into the mechanics of Bitcoin ownership, the importance of self-custody, and the role of nodes in securing transactions. The conversation starts with personal updates before moving on to discuss the different stages of Bitcoin acquisition—from...
005 Bitcoin Basics & History 05.07.2024 1:25:57
Join the Bitcoin Reformation Podcast as three pastors delve into Bitcoin's world, discussing high housing prices, mortgage rates, and Bitcoin's intricacies. This episode covers Bitcoin's history, mining mechanism, and its limited supply of 21 million. Using a spigot analogy, the conversation highlights Bitcoin's growing value due to its scarcity, compared to the US dollar, and draws parallels with...
004 What is Bitcoin? Three Philosophical Views: Social Construct, Ownership, & Technical Relations 23.06.2024 1:19:22
In this episode of the Bitcoin Reformation podcast, hosts Ben Haupt, David Rufner, and Jared Townley discuss various perspectives on what Bitcoin truly is, addressing social construct views, ownership concepts, and the philosophy behind Bitcoin's origin and development through a technical relations lens. They explore comparisons to phenomena such as Beanie Babies and tulip mania, tackle criticism...
003 How Bitcoin Solves Every American's Purchasing Power Problem 08.06.2024 1:05:38
In this episode of the Bitcoin Reformation podcast, hosts Ben, Jared, and David discuss the concept of scarcity and abundance, specifically in relation to Bitcoin and traditional currency. The conversation begins with personal updates, including Jared's family vacation, David's son's high school baseball performance, and Ben's son being chosen for prom court. They then delve into the topic of scar...
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