Steven Holloway & Seamus Marten
Between Two Beers Podcast
Good questions. Great guests. Few beers... Steve and Seamus like asking good questions. And they love good answers. After over 20 years of friendship, they bought a microphone and started a podcast, allowing them to sit with, and learn from, the most interesting people they can access. From Kiwi legend Marc Ellis, to media personalities Jeremy Wells and Paddy Gower, Rugby coach extraordinaire Wayne Smith, sexologist Morgan Penn, and Olympian Dame Lisa Carrington... Between Two Beers has produced countless hours of incredible stories, career highs, lows and moments of raw vulnerability. All fro...
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Steven Holloway & Seamus Marten
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Jul 8, 2026
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Episodes
The World Cup Debrief: What Went Well, What Didn’t & What We'd Do Again 08.07.2026 38:19
You can pour everything into the biggest thing you'll ever build - and still find the part you remember has nothing to do with the work. Fresh off three weeks at the FIFA World Cup in North America, Steven and Seamus sit down with their business coach Di Foster for a proper mid-year debrief: the enormity of what they pulled off (19 daily shows, four partners, a whole TV operation), the studio they...
Golden State Warriors Psychologist Scott Goldman: The Science of Winning 05.07.2026 1:42:59
He's got a championship ring his own kids have never seen - it lives in a closet. Scott Goldman is a high-performance psychologist who's spent 30 years inside some of the biggest teams in world sport, including the Golden State Warriors, and works across five professional franchises at once. His whole philosophy flips how you think about success: you're not your talent, you're your talent times yo...
Our Chaotic World Cup Tour, A 6am Graham Norton Podcast & Catching up with Steven Adams 01.07.2026 38:21
The boys are back on home soil to unpack the most chaotic three weeks of the show's life. They relive the Radio & Podcast Awards and unpack the World Cup experience: 19 daily shows in a row for Between Two Goals, the flying Kiwis march to the Egypt game, Finn Surman's header, and 45 minutes of the best football either of them has ever watched - before the Belgium reality check. Along the way:...
Jason Gunn: What a Heart Attack Taught Him About Success, Family & Grief (Re-Release) 28.06.2026 1:49:53
Jason Gunn is one of New Zealand's most beloved entertainers - but behind the energy, the warmth, and the laugh, is a man who has faced some of life's hardest moments. In this episode, Jase opens up about suffering a heart attack at 47, and the moment lying in a hospital bed when his life's priorities became crystal clear. He talks about his son Louis - then a teenager - ripping up his radio contr...
“What Are You Actually Building This For?” Seamus & Di’s Emotional 1:1 24.06.2026 32:29
Seamus arrives feeling it: New baby at home. A World Cup project about to go live. A calendar that was built before either of those things was certain, now collapsing on top of each other. He's saying yes to everything - commentary gigs, MC slots, the lot. And somewhere underneath all of it, he's saying no to the people who matter most without realising that's what he's doing. This one covers the...
Rob Cope: What Parents Don't Know About Keeping Kids Safe in 2026 21.06.2026 1:35:05
Rob Cope has spoken to over 40,000 New Zealand parents about the dangers hiding in their children's online world. In this episode, he delivers the talk every parent needs to hear - and pulls no punches doing it. They cover the reality of what kids are accessing online, why good kids in good homes aren't protected, the neuroscience of screen addiction, what the government is getting wrong, practica...
All Whites vs Iran: Watching History from Inside the World Cup 17.06.2026 52:06
New Zealand drew 2-2 with Iran in one of the great All Whites performances - scoring twice, leading twice, and finishing top of Group G on goal difference. Eli Just became the first All White to score twice at a World Cup. Steve and Seamus were inside SoFi Stadium in LA when it happened. This episode, recorded the morning after, is their unfiltered reaction from the ground - what the game felt lik...
Inside the Polkinghorne Case & the Mind of NZ's Greatest Writer - Steve Braunias 14.06.2026 1:59:59
Steve Braunias sat through every day of the Polkinghorne trial - the society murder that gripped New Zealand - and wrote the bestselling book on it. He liked the accused. He chatted with him every morning. And he more than entertains the possibility that Phil Polkinghorne is an innocent man. In this episode, Steve takes us inside the eight weeks that felt like "a carnival": the forensic evidence t...
Our Business Coach Quits On-Air? Why Fun Is the Strategy Right Now 10.06.2026 24:10
Di Foster arrived ready to coach. Then she realised the smartest coaching move was to stop coaching. In this episode she explains why: Between Two Beers is in ‘execution season’, and what sport understands about seasons and rhythms is something most businesses never name. We get into why Steve and Seamus are slightly misaligned on what they really want, the delegation trap of "it takes 2 minutes t...
Futurist Frances Valintine: NZ's Looming Demographic Crisis & the Future of Work 07.06.2026 2:34:55
Futurist Frances Valintine (founder of Academy X and Tech Futures Lab) joins the show to map what New Zealand actually looks like in twenty years, and it's a sobering picture. We're one of the fastest-changing populations on earth: ageing fast, with a birth rate well below replacement and a workforce shrinking from four people per retiree toward just two. Her warning is that we're already late to...
Exclusive Access to Tim Payne? Our Football World Cup Trip Shapes Up 03.06.2026 47:08
The boys are back behind the scenes, and the World Cup is almost here. Seamus and Steve break down the wild Tim Payne phenomenon - how an All Whites right-back with 4,000 followers became bigger than the All Blacks in 48 hours after an Argentinian content creator made him the face of the tournament. Seamus has known Tim since he was 16, and with Between Two Goals heading into the exact camp that's...
Matthew Ridge Tells All: Wrongful Conviction, Addiction & Working with Marc Ellis (Re-Release) 31.05.2026 1:52:02
Matthew Ridge is one of New Zealand's most recognisable sporting figures - All Blacks captain, NRL star, television personality. But behind the swagger and the highlights reel is a story most people have never heard. Originally released in 2024 and one of our most popular episodes, we're bringing this one back because it deserves to be heard again. Ridgey sits down with Steve and Seamus to tell it...
“Don’t Believe You Own BS!” - Behind the Scenes of the World Cup, TVNZ Deal & Steven Adams 27.05.2026 41:45
It’s been our biggest six months ever - landing on TVNZ+, heading to the World Cup, and sitting down with Steven Adams. Steve and Seamus sit down with business and mindset coach Di Foster to pull back the curtain on how it all actually came together, the chaos behind the scenes, and what it really takes to turn a podcast into a mainstream media brand. They break down the TVNZ deal, how they landed...
Darren Shand: 20 Years Inside the All Blacks' Golden Era 24.05.2026 2:45:34
For 20 years, Darren Shand was the most powerful person in All Blacks rugby that nobody knew about. As Team Manager across four Rugby World Cups - including the back-to-back title wins of 2011 and 2015 - Shand sat above the coaches, managed the operation, and helped build the cultural architecture of the most successful international rugby team in history. He worked alongside Sir Graham Henry, Sir...
We're Going to the Football World Cup with the All Whites! 20.05.2026 35:55
This week on Hambassadors, Steve and Seamus reveal their biggest project yet: a dedicated All Whites fan show heading to Vancouver for the FIFA World Cup. They're going in camp with the team, bringing the families, and building something that hasn't been done before in New Zealand sports media. Also this week: a behind-the-scenes look at the Joseph Parker x Barkers event (with some Chatham House r...
Stacey Morrison: The Te Reo Journey She Almost Quit, Losing Her Mum & 30 Years of NZ Media Unfiltered 17.05.2026 2:19:58
Stacey Morrison has been a fixture of New Zealand television and radio for thirty years - but this is the story behind the story. In this episode she opens up about growing up embarrassed by her Māori identity, a gruelling fifteen year journey to te reo fluency, the heartbreaking loss of her mum Sue, and finding the love she never thought she'd have with Scotty Morrison. Between Two Beers is proud...
Is Being a 'Good Bugger' Enough? Values, Identity & the Team Behind the Vision 13.05.2026 38:36
Steve sits down with our business and mindset coach Di Foster for a candid 1:1 coaching session. They get into what it really means to be a 'good bugger' in business, whether values alone are enough to build something lasting, and the identity shift that happens when your business starts moving faster than you expected. They also tackle the team question - why having the right people around you is...
Nate Alley: Growing Up Without a Dad, Driving $200M in Construction & Why He Nearly Lost It All 10.05.2026 2:06:33
Nate Alley grew up in Tokoroa without a father, got kicked out of school at 16, and spent the better part of a decade angry, lost, and making decisions he's not proud of. Today he runs his own Sentinel Homes franchise in the Waikato, with nearly 200 million dollars in construction work completed over the last decade. In this episode Nate speaks publicly for the first time about his upbringing, a f...
Steven Adams Goes Viral, Our Football World Cup Announcement & Lost Wedding Rings 06.05.2026 40:34
The Steven Adams episode has gone global. NBA Twitter picked it up, US news sites started writing stories, and the clip of Steven's journaling practice has racked up millions of views. Steve and Che take you behind the scenes of watching it snowball in real time, from the 3am Instagram collab to waking up to floods of comments and mentions. Plus, we make it official: Between Two Beers is going to...
How Steven Adams Accidentally Became The NBA's Most Beloved Star (Exclusive) 03.05.2026 2:12:52
In the most personal interview of his career, New Zealand's most beloved NBA export Steven Adams sits down with Between Two Beers exclusively to tell his full story. From growing up the youngest of 14 in Rotorua, losing his father at 13, and never dreaming of the NBA - to rookie years alongside Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook and James Harden at the Oklahoma City Thunder, the infamous Draymond Gre...
How a Cold Email Landed One NZ as Our Biggest Sponsor 29.04.2026 41:09
Steve cold emailed Jason Paris, the CEO of One New Zealand. He replied in three minutes. In this episode, Seamus and Steve sit down with business coach Di Foster to unpack what landing the biggest naming rights deal in Between Two Beers history actually means for the business, and what it exposes about everything they still haven't figured out. Di doesn't let the celebration last long. With a One...
Stacey Jones: 27 Years as a Warrior, 2002 Grand Final Regrets & The Pre-Game Ritual He Kept Secret 26.04.2026 1:58:18
Stacey Jones has given 27 years to the Warriors - from foundation player to the coaching staff helping build the next generation. In this episode, he opens up on the try that still haunts him from the 2002 NRL grand final, what it meant to be a household name in New Zealand before social media existed, and why he's never left the Wahs. Steve and Seamus are proud to be dressed by Barkers. Hosted on...
We Landed Steven Adams... Behind The Scenes of Our Biggest Episode 22.04.2026 41:51
We landed him. Steven Adams, New Zealand's most beloved basketball export and our number one dream guest for years, is coming to Between Two Beers. In this episode of Hambassadors, Seamus and Steve take you behind the scenes of the biggest week in the podcast’s history. Four recordings in six days, a surprise Easter weekend email that changed everything, eight steaks on order, and two and a half h...
Raelene Castle: The NRL's First Female CEO & NZ's Most Powerful Sports Executive (Re-Release) 19.04.2026 1:29:33
She ran the Bulldogs, steered Australia Rugby through one of their biggest controversies, and led NZ sport through its toughest years. So why don't more people know the real Raelene Castle? In this episode we sit down with one of the most significant sports executives the southern hemisphere has ever produced - and discover that the woman behind the headlines is nothing like the one in them. We co...
We Smashed Our Goals... Then Got A Reality Check 15.04.2026 45:33
Steve and Seamus sit down with coach Di Foster for their unofficial Q1 review - and it's a big one. New naming sponsor (they can't tell you who yet), a TV deal in the works, and their first ever full-time hire. On paper, the best quarter Between Two Beers has ever had. But Di isn't letting them off that easy. In this episode: why securing long-term partnerships changes everything, the embarrassing...
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