Between Two Beers Podcast

In April 2020, during lockdown, Dai Henwood received a terminal cancer diagnosis. He kept it hidden. He kept doing stand-up. He kept doing interviews. He kept being Dai Henwood, while privately getting to grips with something nobody in his family had ever faced before. Four and a half years after his first appearance on the show, he sits back down with Steve and Seamus. Dai walks us through 52 rou...

Behind the scenes of Between Two Beers this week, Steve and Seamus break down the Kieran Read shirt scandal that has gripped our viewers, reflect on driving the former All Blacks captain to his parents' place, and tease what might be their most powerful episode yet. Dai Henwood returns to the show - 52 rounds of chemo, eight surgeries, and a conversation about life, death, and what actually matter...

Kieran Read is one of the greatest All Blacks of all time. Two-time World Cup winner, Crusaders legend, and the man who replaced Richie McCaw as captain with 800 tests of combined experience suddenly out the door. But four years on from his first appearance on Between Two Beers, the most interesting chapter of Kieran's story is only just beginning. In this episode we get into the leadership journe...

Steve and Seamus sit down with their business coach Di for their first session of 2026 - and they're not holding back. On the table: a plan to 5x revenue in three years, double their audience in twelve months, and finally build the team around them that the business actually needs. They get into why growing your audience doesn't pay off in the same year, why neither of them are natural team builde...

Ruben Miller spent 22 years as a forensic scientist in New Zealand, working on more than 160 homicide investigations. This is the story of what it cost him. In this episode we talk about what it actually feels like to walk into a homicide scene, the forensic principle that guides every investigation, the case that still hasn't left him, and what two decades of witnessing violence quietly does to a...

Have you made the switch from ChatGPT to Claude yet? Steve and Che did - and they're not going back. In this week's Hambassadors they break down why they ditched ChatGPT, what Claude is actually doing for their business, and why one of them still can't bring himself to fully commit. Plus: the truth about what happens in the studio before guests arrive, Che’s horror dentist bill, going solo at Home...

Melie Kerr joins us fresh off being named White Ferns captain across all formats and scoring a T20 century on captaincy debut - the first woman ever to do so. But this episode goes well beyond cricket. Growing up in one of New Zealand's most celebrated cricket families, Melie was the kid who made her dad commentate 7am net sessions as if she was playing in a World Cup final. She went on to become...

Che and Di sit down for a one-on-one to go through the 2026 goals - but this is the episode they couldn't record until now. A new baby. A house. A marriage. The past few months have changed everything for Che, and in this episode he and Di work through what that actually means for his personal and professional life heading into the year ahead. They cover the weight goal (and the moment Che realise...

Liam Messam is one of the most beloved figures in New Zealand rugby. Two-time Super Rugby champion, All Black, World Cup winner, and a 20-year servant of the Chiefs. But behind the jersey is a story most people have never heard. Adopted at six weeks old into a Rotorua family that went on to foster close to a thousand children, Liam opens up about identity, belonging, and the household that gave hi...

Having our former headmaster Susan Hassall on the podcast sent us deep down memory lane. We go deep on NZ tuck shop nostalgia - the Juicies, the pies, the Cookie Time ritual - school discos, balls, prefects, wagging on a scooter, and what made Hamilton Boys' High so special. We also reflect on the response to the Susan Hassall episode, the 300,000 views on the trailer alone, the floods of comments...

Susan Hassall arrived at Hamilton Boys' High School in 1979 as a 22-year-old English teacher. She stayed for 46 years. In 1999, she became the first woman in New Zealand to be appointed headmaster of a boys' state school — a role she held for exactly 25 years. In this conversation, Susan shares what she's learned about love, leadership, loss, and what it takes to raise good men. We talk about her...

In this special episode of Accidental Business Owners, we welcome our first-ever guest to the show: actor, radio host, and entrepreneur Mike Minogue! Two years ago, after appearing on the Between Two Beers podcast, Mike pitched us an idea that seemed too good to refuse: creating a corporate speaking bureau featuring our podcast guests. We launched B2B Speakers, and it was an immediate hit. But tod...

Tim Brown is best known as the co-founder of Allbirds - the New Zealand-born footwear brand that became a global phenomenon. But before Silicon Valley, before the IPO, and before building one of the world’s most recognisable sustainable fashion brands, Tim was an All White, representing New Zealand on the world stage. At just 31 years old, still in his prime, he made a decision that shocked many:...

In this episode of Hambassadors, we take you behind the scenes of a chaotic fortnight. Steve confesses to messing up the opening line of the Halberg Awards and embarking on the world's longest, most stressful ad-lib in front of a live audience. Seamus (a former goalkeeper) breaks down the "Phoenix Nightmare" - THAT viral own goal by Josh Oluwayemi - and explains why he wanted the ground to swallow...

Brad Thorn is one of the most unique champions New Zealand sport has ever produced. A dual-code legend, Brad achieved what almost no one has - winning NRL premierships, World Cups, Super Rugby titles, and earning the right to wear the All Blacks jersey at the highest level. But behind the trophies is an obsession with discipline, standards, and doing the work that others won’t. In this conversatio...

We’re kicking off 2026 with a big change! Di walks into the studio with a completely shaved head, addressing the "elephant in the room" immediately. But this episode isn't just about the new look - it’s about looking forward. Di introduces the "10,000 Days" framework: the idea that at mid-life, we have roughly 10,000 days left to live. The question isn't just what your net worth will be when you'r...

This episode includes discussion of grief, loss, and mental health, which some listeners may find distressing. Dr Lucy Hone is one of the world’s leading voices on grief, resilience, and how humans survive life’s hardest moments. In this episode, Lucy shares the tools and insights she’s developed through her work in resilience psychology - and through personal tragedy, after losing her 12-year-old...

In this episode of Hambassadors, things get way too honest. Steve finally confesses to his most embarrassing "new dad" moment involving a big night out and a change table, while Seamus opens up about separation anxiety. Plus, we break down the absolute scenes from the Horgan Cup golf tournament, where Seamus managed to get New Zealand legends like Mark Ellis, Matthew Ridge, Patty Gower, and Ryan F...

This week on Between Two Beers, we sit down with Cameron George, the CEO of the New Zealand Warriors. Cameron is one of the most influential figures in modern New Zealand sport - and in this conversation, he opens up like never before about the journey that shaped him, and the brutal years that nearly broke the club. We dive deep into the Warriors’ extraordinary 1,038-day COVID exile, the personal...

Te Radar is one of New Zealand’s most distinctive storytellers, but his career never followed a plan. From anarchic comedy and improvisation to the runaway success of Off The Radar , this conversation explores how curiosity, chance, and saying “yes” shaped a life in television, documentary-making, and storytelling. In this episode of Between Two Beers , Te Radar reflects on growing up curious, the...

Welcome back to another episode of Hmbassadors! This week, Seamus gives a six-week update on his new life as a dad, Steve reflects on life with four kids and why his memory is officially "cooked" after a few serious petrol station run-ins - plus, the great debate of 2026 continues. Could it be the end of us? We also recap our recent "Re-ignite" studio opening before diving into a massive sports se...

He is the secret weapon behind Chelsea FC, the England Football team, the South African Proteas, and NATO’s Command Group. Yet, Owen Eastwood has no coaching qualifications, describes himself as an "imposter," and often refuses to watch the actual games his teams play. In this episode, we sit down with the most in-demand performance coach you’ve never heard of. We discuss the "mystical" session wh...

For years, Mike McRoberts was the most recognisable and trusted face on New Zealand television, sitting at the 6pm news desk, delivering the biggest stories in the country. What most people never saw was where that job took him. In this episode of Between Two Beers , Mike opens up about reporting from war zones, covering humanitarian disasters, and what it actually took - mentally and emotionally...

Welcome back to a brand-new year of Hambassadors! We're kicking off 2026 with some "edgy" fashion choices, high-stakes goals, and a look at the guests we're manifesting for the year ahead. In this episode, Seamus explains why he’s bringing back the Eric Cantona-inspired popped collar (and whether he cleared it with Barkers first). Meanwhile, Stephen shares a harrowing New Year’s Eve tale from Whan...

Greg Foran has led at a level very few people ever will. From running Walmart US - a business with over a million employees - to serving as CEO of Air New Zealand through some of its most challenging years, Greg has made decisions where the consequences affected millions of people. In this conversation, Greg takes us inside what that responsibility actually feels like. We talk about making calls t...