Ed Chapman & Michael Herd
Behind the Gates
Join us for wide ranging conversations with guests from around the world as we approach every topic with Private Club management and leadership. Who are your hosts? Ed Chapman, CCM, PGA - a Club hospitality professional, and current CEO of Royal Auckland & Grange Golf Club in New Zealand, who has worked in four countries in three continents over the past 20 years in Clubs. Michael Herd - one of the industry's leading recruiters, Head of International Search for Kopplin Kuebler & Wallace, and Club aficionado who has placed some of the best managers at some of the most distinguished Clubs in the...
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Ed Chapman & Michael Herd
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Jul 5, 2026
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Episodes
Chris DeChillo | Be curious, not judgemental 05.07.2026 54:01
In this podcast episode, Chris DeChillo shares insights on authenticity in leadership and the value proposition in club restaurants. He discusses his background, career beginnings, and the transition from hotels to clubs. Additionally, he explores the role of authenticity in leadership and the importance of coaching for leadership development. The conversation covers empowerment, authenticity, val...
John Blanch | Cultural adaptations and leading with empathy 28.06.2026 50:28
The conversation delves into John Blanch's experiences as a General Manager with a storied career in the private club industry. It explores his journey through various countries, the challenges of adapting to different cultures, and the importance of leadership and empathy in managing diverse teams. The conversation covers John's experiences in adapting to the UK, managing people in Asia, cultural...
Scott Clark | A journey from PGA to GM 21.06.2026 52:43
The podcast episode features an insightful conversation with Scott Clark, an experienced General Manager. Scott shares his career journey, transition to private member clubs, leadership style, and the challenges of balancing work and personal life. The conversation highlights the importance of empathy, delegation, and self-awareness in leadership roles, as well as the value of transferable skills...
Elaine Patterson | Finding Joy in Experiences 14.06.2026 58:55
The conversation covers Elaine Patterson's professional career, her experience as the spouse of a club manager, and the challenges of relocation. It delves into the importance of authenticity, personal growth, and prioritising personal and professional life. The conversation covers various aspects of being married to a club manager, including the impact on relationships, the importance of perspect...
Sarab Singh | Building Social Capital 07.06.2026 52:18
Sarab Singh, of Corporate Sherpas, shares insights on change leadership, modern leadership, and the importance of a learning mindset. He discusses the challenges of leading in a VUCA environment, the role of authentic leadership, and the neuroscientific approach to decision making. The conversation delves into various aspects of effective leadership, communication, and change management. It explor...
Tom Wallace, CCM, CCE, ECM | Authenticity and self awareness 31.05.2026 56:08
The conversation with Tom Wallace covers his journey from early career beginnings to his leadership roles at prestigious golf clubs. It delves into his personal reflections, his father's influence, and the importance of work-life balance. Tom's authenticity and competitiveness are key takeaways from the discussion. The conversation delves into the themes of leadership, mentorship, career developme...
Denny Corby | Hospitality is Magic 24.05.2026 43:08
Denny Corby shares his journey from a family business to a career in magic and entertainment, navigating the pandemic, reviving Private Club Radio, and embracing adaptability and resilience. He emphasises the importance of commitment, curiosity, and embracing imperfection, drawing from his experiences and lessons learned from his family's business. The conversation explores the art of adaptation,...
Jim Rohrstaff | Bag room to Boardroom 17.05.2026 55:29
The conversation delves into Jim Rohrstaff's passion for golf and his journey in creating a world-class experience in the golf industry. From his early golf experiences to his transition to Southern California, meeting industry leaders, and his philosophy of creating a great work environment, Jim shares insights on hiring the right people, balancing time, and taking his family on the journey. He a...
Behind the Gates | A brand new podcast 10.05.2026 11:59
The Behind the Gates podcast launches, and its hosts, Ed Chapman, CCM, and Michael Herd, discuss their experience co-hosting, their different approaches to asking questions, and the importance of authenticity in conversations. They share insights into how they got started, the fascinating conversations they've had, and the launch of the podcast with its partners. The hosts also engage the audience...
#36: Navigating difficult conversations in the workplace | Spaska Ivanov 31.07.2024 33:13
Spaska Ivanov, Assistant General Manager at Rehoboth Beach Country Club in Delaware, USA, joins me in this episode of The Modern Club Management Podcast. This conversation focuses on navigating challenging conversations in the workplace. We discuss how to approach them, framing the conversation, the importance of setting clear expectations, and giving permission to others to have tough conversatio...
#35: Michael Herd | Employer branding and EQ for leaders 26.06.2024 49:19
Michael Herd, Head of International Search & Consulting, from Kopplin, Kuebler & Wallace joins me on this episode to discuss trends in Club management, hiring, AI, EQ, employer branding, and "The One Thing" approach to hiring. This is a wide-ranging conversation that touches on lots of aspects of the Club industry, hiring, future trends, and how employers can create a brand to make themsel...
#34: Richard Pennell | Following your dreams 03.11.2023 49:26
Richard is one of my favourite people in the world. It is that simple. He has taken that big leap into following your dreams and passions, and also saying enough is enough in a job that was no longer fulfilling and nourishing, and that is inspirational. In this wide ranging conversation we dive into a myriad of topics from the joys of sabbaticals, meditation, writing, golf in general and much more...
#33: Grace Rokela | Passion in marketing 18.10.2023 33:41
Today I am excited to be joined by Grace Rokela, the Marketing Director for Te Arai Links in New Zealand. In this conversation we dive into new member inductions, newsletters, the purpose of dress codes, social media, and much more. Please enjoy this conversation. This episode is brought to you by Suada . Suada is the social learning platform that delivers high-quality blended learning with human...
#28: Gregg Patterson | Researching 'RUDE' 11.10.2023 34:43
Re-broadcast! Going all the way back to the beginning we bring you some of my favourite conversations from The Modern Club Management podcast. Welcome to the beginning of season 3 of the Modern Club Management Podcast. We start season 3 with the return of Gregg Patterson, this time we are discussing how to handle 'the rude'. If you're interested in learning about the different types of rude, how t...
#26: Emily Davidson | Making room for everybody 04.10.2023 50:25
Re-broadcast! Going all the way back to the beginning we bring you some of my favourite conversations from The Modern Club Management podcast. Today I am speaking with Emily Davidson. Emily is the Participation and Inclusion Manager at Golf New Zealand, an organisation she has worked for since 2017. Her biggest career highlight to date was Golf NZ winning the NZ Sport and Recreation Award for Lead...
#18: Monique Landman | Heart in the Boardroom 27.09.2023 33:36
Re-broadcast! Going all the way back to the beginning we bring you some of my favourite conversations from The Modern Club Management podcast. Watch out for some new episodes coming soon. In today's episode I speak with Monique Landman, the Chief Empathy Officer and Co-founder of Unchain. After a successful corporate career in strategy and communications, Monique found her heart eight years ago an...
#14: Etienne Haro | Hotel Manager of La Mamounia 20.09.2023 54:21
Re-broadcast! Going all the way back to the beginning we bring you some of my favourite conversations from The Modern Club Management podcast. Watch out for some new episodes coming soon. Today I am excited to be joined by global luxury hospitality leader Etienne Haro ( LinkedIn ). Etienne is the Hotel Manager of La Mamounia in Marrakesh. Prior to this Etienne’s roles have been across a who’s who...
#10: Richard Pennell | Stoicism & Meditation | A managers secret weapon 13.09.2023 1:04:00
Re-broadcast! Going all the way back to the beginning we bring you some of my favourite conversations from The Modern Club Management podcast. Watch out for some new episodes coming soon. Richard Pennell ( LinkedIn ) is currently the Membership Secretary at West Byfleet Golf Club and is the author of the “ Stymied ” blog on Substack - a project he embarked on in order “to put golf back where it be...
#7: David Thomson | Essential skills for being persuasive and influential 06.09.2023 49:02
Re-broadcast! Going all the way back to the beginning we bring you some of my favourite conversations from The Modern Club Management podcast. Watch out for some new episodes coming soon. David Thomson - Positive mental attitude | Framing | Questions are the Answers | Influence David is the CEO and founder of Suada.com , which is a social learning platform that blends online learning with the cri...
#1: Gregg Patterson | Generating the BIG Happy 30.08.2023 49:30
Re-broadcast, season 1 episode 1! Going all the way back to the beginning as we bring you some of my favourite conversations from The Modern Club Management podcast. Watch out for some new episodes coming soon. Gregg Patterson - generating the BIG Happy Gregg is the President and founder of Tribal Magic; where he is an in-demand speaker around the globe. Prior to this, he was the General Manager f...
#32: Dylan Lindstrom | Change management in golf clubs 05.07.2023 38:09
In this week's episode, I am excited to be joined by Dylan Lindstrom. Dylan is the General Manager of Royal Wellington Golf Club in New Zealand. After spending five years as Director of Golf, Dylan then moved into the GM role, which can be a challenge when moving from colleague to leader. Dylan has a great reputation as a thoughtful leader who can enact change when needed and leads by being the fa...
#31: Dr Brian Hemmings | High performance psychology 31.05.2023 38:14
In this week's episode I am excited to be joined by Dr Brian Hemmings. Brian received his PhD in sport psychology in 1998 and has been working with elite level athletes, as well as executive coaching in a multitude of sports. In this conversation we discuss how we can create safe environments for people to flourish, the benefits and drawbacks of journaling, what is high performance, and much much...
#30: Monique Landman | Amygdala Hijack and Dealing with Cynics 17.05.2023 30:19
In today's episode I am rejoined by Monique Landman, the Chief Empathy Officer and Co-founder of Unchain. After a successful corporate career in strategy and communications, Monique found her heart eight years ago and a new calling in life to bring empathetic leadership to the world so that people can lead with more humanity. It has never been more important than now to have empathy and compassion...
#29: David Shepherd | Developing employees 03.05.2023 42:55
This week I am joined by David Shepherd. David has been the CEO of The Scandinavian in Copenhagen, Denmark since 2016. a 36-hole facility which has recently been voted as having the number 1 and 2 courses in Denmark. Prior to this David spent over 8 years in the Algarve at Monte Rei Golf and Country Club as Director of Golf which followed on from a successful time at The Belfry Golf Resort as Golf...
#27: Phoebe Torrance | Getting women into golf 08.02.2023 29:33
Today I am speaking with Phoebe Torrance. Phoebe is the Women's Golf and Development Manager at The Metropolitan Golf Club in Melbourne, Australia. This was a super interesting conversation which gave me some ideas of tactics to implement to make golf clubs more inclusive and welcoming to get more women into golf. It can be a tricky proposition running coaching programmes to bring new members into...
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