Behind Gray Walls

Anthony finishes telling the story of Warden John Snook, the most honest rancher, territorial marshal, legislator, and warden you’ve ever heard of—as he cleans up the Federal Penitentiary in Atlanta!

In this episode of Disturbing Justice, Anthony and Skye walk through a riot that resulted in an unfortunate nickname for Yard Captain Gilbert Talley. ATTENTION! The exhibition - Disturbing Justice - will not open until late September. Please stay tuned as we announce the official opening later this season.

On our first Stool Pigeon Saturday, Anthony discusses Warden John Snook, the most honest rancher, territorial marshal, legislator, and warden you’ve ever heard of—and this is only the first part of his life! Tune in next Saturday for part 2.

In this episode of Disturbing Justice, Anthony and Skye walk through the first recorded attempt by ISP inmates to stage a riot against Warden John Snook, a man with a certain sense for such situations.

Season 4 is here! In this episode, Skye and Anthony interviewed the Old Pen Team who made both the new season of the podcast and a brand new exhibition - Disturbing Justice: An Illustrated Narrative of I.S.P. Uprisings - happen, including local artist Allen Gladfelter (https://www.allengladfelter.com/) who illustrated the riots for the new exhibition. Stay tuned to all the happenings at the Old Pe...

We're just about back with a brand new season! Can you guess the theme? Let us know in our Behind Gray Walls Podcast Group (https://www.facebook.com/groups/behindgraywalls).

Skye and Anthony sit down with Ada County Deputy Prosecuting Attorney, Historian, and Author John Dinger to discuss the crime of Unlawful Cohabitation that targeted members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints during the late 1800s.

In the last episode of Season 3, Anthony and Skye talk about a man whose journey into hypnotism literally made him crazy #852 Henry Wilmbusse (Murder in the Second Degree) and a woman whose sister compared her to Jesus Christ (uhhh....okay....) #8760 Lena Pink Proud (Procurement for Abortion). Trigger Warnings include Gun violence, Suicide, and Abortion.

In this season’s couple’s episode, Anthony and Skye pick up where Anthony left off last week, finishing the story of Reuben Gardner’s accomplices and whole ham stealers #1186 Arthur Allen and #1187 Mary Allen (Burglary in the First Degree).

Skye and Anthony detail former Ohio prisoner turned Boise thief and dog abuser #1158 Reuben Gardner (Burglary) and bookkeeper juggling the accounts "to make ends meet," #7954 Norma Van Ostrand (Embezzlement). Order your copy of Numbered: Inside Idaho's Prison for Women, 1887-1968: https://store.history.idaho.gov/GeneralAdmission.aspx

Anthony sits down with Old Pen Tour Guide Extraordinaire Jack Hourcade who tells the story of William Dreyer who just couldn't stop himself from forging checks. Special thanks to Hidden Shelf Publishing for giving us permission to share quotes from Jerry Clapp's upcoming memoir! (https://hiddenshelfpublishinghouse.com/)

Skye and Anthony detail a persistent parolee violator with a surprise crime spree #9216 & #10587 Virginia Lorene Pugmire (Forgery) and a truly nasty inmate who perhaps deserved what he got #8215 Roberto Samaneigo (Voluntary Manslaughter). Trigger Warning includes gun violence and violent murder.

Anthony and Skye explore the details of a pegged-leg Scotchman #3455 Kenneth McLennan (Murder in the 2nd Degree) and a forger who just couldn’t stay away from troubled men #8446 June Lavon Skinner (Forgery). Trigger Warning includes gun violence.

In this episode of Stool Pigeon Saturday, Anthony sits down with Old Pen tour guide Said Bowen who tells one of his favorite stories from the prison cemetery.

Skye and Anthony parse out the details of a Frenchwomen missing a few teeth #636 Phedora Crawford (Assault with a Deadly Weapon) and a trumpet player with a rhyming name #1934 Ben(jamin) Penn (Assault with a Deadly Weapon); picture in place of Crawford’s mugshot is a photo of “The Remington Ferry docked on the Salmon River below White Bird, about 20 miles from Grangeville.” Found in the J.A. Hanso...

In this episode of Stool Pigeon Saturday, Skye and Anthony interview Curtis Nixon, the grandson of this weeks feature #3498 Nathaniel Gardner. Curtis compares his own personal experience serving time in Idaho's prison system with his grandfather, who served time at the Old Idaho State Penitentiary.

Anthony and Skye dig into the stories of notorious saddle stealer #3498 Nathaniel Gardner (Grand Larceny) and the ex-wife who just wanted her money back #8407 Josephine Fort (Voluntary Manslaughter).

In this episode of Stool Pigeon Saturday, Anthony sits down with former member of the Idaho House of Representatives and author Max Black, who dedicated years researching and writing his book Diamondfield: Finding the Real Jack Davis. Max reveals how he uncovered the story and all of the coincidences that dotted the way.

Skye and Anthony examine a tragedy survivor who crimed while high #11630 Phyllis Mae Mink (No Account Check) and one of the most infamous Idaho miners of all time #672 and #820 John “Diamondfield Jack” Davis (Murder in the First degree)

Anthony and Skye talk about a bootlegger who just can’t abide by the rules of Prohibition #3126 Henry Poynter and a Madame who lost the Burley Mayoral race #11861 Sarah Sue Roach

In this week's Stool Pigeon Saturday, Anthony sits down with Hayley Noble to discuss Kenneth Hastings' role as a Staff Sergeant in the 7th Infantry Division of the United States Army during WWII, and what role it may have played in his post-war criminal career.

On the first episode of season 3 (woo!), Skye and Anthony discuss the teenager who did “something about the old man” #6325 Flossie Phillips and an inmate haunted by the ghost of his past #8330 Kenneth Raymond Hastings

We have something to mark on your open calendars! Season 3 starts TUESDAY March 24th! Let's get through our Covid-19 quarantine's together because as William Owen states - "Without friends, the world doesn't turn very fast for you."

Thank you all for listening to season 2! Mark your calendars, season 3 will drop on March 24, 2020! We will be doing our first LIVE recording during Treefort Music Festival at the Storyfort stage on March 26, 2020 at 9:00pm! Did we mention that it's FREE! Come say hello! Oral history with former correctional officer Chet Stinnett, July 20, 1992 (Idaho State Archives).

In the Season 2 Finale, Anthony and Skye discuss the Triple Murderer who refused to hang #5264 Douglas Van Vlack (Murder in the 1st Degree), and the Youngest Horse-Thief #901 Ida Laherty (Grand Larceny). Trigger Warnings include murder, gun violence.