Steve Fretzin
BE THAT LAWYER
BE THAT LAWYER is for attorneys who want more freedom, enjoyment and most importantly, control in their career. Topics will include business development, marketing, branding, technology, and law firm growth. The goal is to educate, entertain and share best practices related to these topics, so that you, the listener can get real value. This is primarily an interview show with great guests (attorneys and legal marketing professionals), sharing stories and analogies, as well as engaging in personal discussions that will keep you entertained and coming back week after week.
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Steve Fretzin
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Jul 9, 2026
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Episodes
Addison Watson: Building Freedom, Confidence, and Clients in Modern Law 20.10.2025 31:41
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Addison Watson discuss: Building and sustaining a law practice through intentional business development The challenges of transitioning from large firm life to independent or entrepreneurial practice The influence of mindset, discipline, and mentorship on legal career growth The evolving role of technology and AI in shaping modern legal careers and firm structure...
Raquel Gomes: From Burnout to Boundaries and Balance in Business 16.10.2025 31:35
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Raquel Gomes discuss: The importance of setting boundaries and saying no to maintain focus and balance Overcoming perfectionism and developing trust through delegation and leadership Building sustainable business systems that support both growth and personal well-being The mindset shift required to transition from burnout to passion-driven entrepreneurship Key...
Elise Buie: Numbers Plus Narrative in Building a Healthier Law Firm 13.10.2025 31:17
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Elise Buie discuss: Using data-driven decision-making to manage and grow a modern law firm Redefining work-life integration and employee well-being within professional culture Building brand identity and marketing strategies rooted in authenticity and measurable ROI Leadership through adaptability, empathy, and alignment between values and performance metrics K...
BE THAT LAWYER LIVE Part 2: How Lawyers Turn Networking and Visibility into Rainmaking Success 09.10.2025 30:04
What if the final piece of the puzzle for your growth was right here? This is the second and last part of a powerful two-part conversation on Be That Lawyer Live , where Steve Fretzin sits down again with Daniel Scola, Eido Walny, and Karl Seelbach. Together, they dive deep into rainmaking, relationships, and leadership in ways most lawyers never discuss publicly. You’ll hear candid stories, real...
BE THAT LAWYER LIVE Part 1: Turning Mistakes and Passions into Lasting Success in Legal Business Development 06.10.2025 33:35
What if you could finally understand what it really takes to grow as a lawyer beyond just practicing law? In this first part of a special two-part Be That Lawyer Live , Steve Fretzin brings together Daniel Scola, Eido Walny, and Karl Seelbach for a candid conversation you won’t hear anywhere else. You’ll be pulled into their stories, their struggles, and the strategies that shaped their careers...
Nancy Fox: Networking Business Development and the Future of Rainmaking in Law 02.10.2025 32:50
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Nancy Fox discuss: The importance of mindset shifts in professional growth Strategic approaches to networking and business development Navigating uncertainty and change in the legal industry The role of consistency, agility, and technology in building relationships Key Takeaways: Lawyers often fail at networking because they choose events or groups without a st...
Matt Darner: Getting Paid What You Deserve While Running a Law Practice 29.09.2025 33:43
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Matt Darner discuss: Challenges attorneys encounter in chasing overdue client payments Building strong systems, processes, and roles to keep law firms efficient Psychology and communication dynamics that shape how clients pay their bills Lessons learned from business mistakes and the growth unlocked by niching Key Takeaways: When lawyers delay or inconsistently...
Eric Ritter: Future-Proofing Law Firm Marketing with AI and Smart Digital Strategies 25.09.2025 30:52
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Eric Ritter discuss: Shifts in digital marketing strategies for law firms The growing role of AI and answer engine optimization in client acquisition Common mistakes lawyers make in online marketing Practical tools for improving websites, reviews, and advertising effectiveness Key Takeaways: Law firms should invest early in Answer Engine Optimization (AEO) by w...
Steve Haddadin: How Obsession, Proactivity, and Communication Shape Growth in Law and Business 22.09.2025 31:41
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Steve Haddadin discuss: The importance of cultivating an entrepreneurial mindset in professional growth Building and maintaining strong client relationships through communication and transparency Managing and mitigating risk while pursuing opportunities Leveraging marketing tools and personal branding for visibility and credibility Key Takeaways: Being proactiv...
K'Lee Terrazas: How Lawyers Can Stop Flying Blind and Start Scaling with Confidence 18.09.2025 32:04
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and K'Lee Terrazas discuss: The importance of lead generation for building and sustaining a business Common blind spots lawyers face in marketing and business development How intake processes affect client acquisition and law firm growth The role of coaching, auditing, and systems in scaling effectively Key Takeaways: Many law firms fail because they do not track e...
Ed Alexander: Why Communication and Strategy Make or Break Law Firm Partnerships 15.09.2025 30:11
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Ed Alexander discuss: Challenges and risks in forming and managing law firm partnerships Strategic considerations and planning for succession and law firm exits The importance of communication, expectations, and alignment in business relationships Diversifying marketing and building sustainable value in a law practice Key Takeaways: Many law firm partnerships c...
Ral West: Business Growth Through Delegation, Automation, and Client Clarity 11.09.2025 30:32
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Ral West discuss: The importance of measuring and tracking the right business metrics The challenges and necessity of delegation for growth Using automation and systems to save time and increase efficiency Identifying ideal clients and aligning business with long-term vision Key Takeaways: Profitability isn’t guaranteed by high revenue alone; entrepreneurs must...
Phyllis Sisenwine: Swing the Bat and Build the Business 08.09.2025 34:05
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Phyllis Sisenwine discuss: The importance of networking and relationship-building for professional growth Effective time management and productivity strategies How to leverage speaking engagements and visibility opportunities The role of follow-up, asking for referrals, and accountability in business development Key Takeaways: Interruptions can cost lawyers ove...
Jerold Rothkoff: From Starting Out Alone to Leading a Growing Firm with Strategy and Discipline 04.09.2025 30:24
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Jerold Rothkoff discuss: The importance of time management and daily structure for lawyers How networking, marketing, and relationship-building drive law practice growth The role of delegation, staff investment, and team-building in sustaining a firm Learning from mentors, conferences, and coaches to avoid reinventing the wheel Key Takeaways: Tackling the most...
Chris Ducker: Building a Business That Truly Supports the Life You Want 01.09.2025 36:49
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Chris Ducker discuss: The role of coaching and masterminds in personal and professional growth The importance of niching down in business and branding Balancing lifestyle design with entrepreneurship and long-term success Learning from mistakes and validating ideas before scaling Key Takeaways: Niching down to serve a very specific audience allows you to attrac...
Joanne Black: The Mindset and Language Shifts That Transform Referral Success 28.08.2025 31:49
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Joanne Black discuss: The challenges and misconceptions around asking for referrals How language and specificity shape successful client introductions The role of accountability, systems, and consistency in business development Building stronger client relationships through follow-up, gratitude, and personal touches Key Takeaways: Asking vague questions like “i...
BE THAT LAWYER LIVE Part 2: Building Lasting Client Relationships Through Authenticity and Consistency 25.08.2025 37:28
What separates lawyers who struggle from those who thrive? In this special Part 2 of Be That Lawyer Live , you’ll discover how our guests integrate authenticity, focus, and thought leadership into their daily practice to create long-term growth. You’ll hear how staying true to yourself, choosing opportunities wisely, and turning passions into professional strengths can open unexpected doors. This...
BE THAT LAWYER LIVE Part 1: The Lawyers Rainmaking Playbook for Mindset, Networking, and Strategic Action 21.08.2025 37:24
What if your legal career could shift from unpredictable to unstoppable simply by changing your approach to relationships and opportunity? In this special Part 1 of Be That Lawyer Live , you’ll hear how our guests weave business development seamlessly into their daily lives, turning everyday interactions into potential gold mines. You’ll discover how being intentional, showing up in the right room...
Jordan Whelan: How Targeted Strategy and Inner Work Drive Legal Success 18.08.2025 34:29
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Jordan Whelan discuss: The evolving landscape of legal marketing and SEO strategies Identifying and targeting the right audience through buyer personas Leveraging video, local SEO, and low-cost marketing tactics for visibility The role of mindset, metaphysics, and visualization in business growth Key Takeaways: A law firm’s website must be technically optimized...
Viktoria Altman: Stop Random Acts of Marketing and Start Getting Clients 14.08.2025 33:12
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Viktoria Altman discuss: Risk and mindset in legal marketing How to evaluate and choose marketing vendors Niche focus and ideal client definition as a growth strategy The emerging impact of AI on search, ads, and brand identity Key Takeaways: Lawyers should stop chasing random acts of marketing and instead copy proven tactics used by competitors who serve the s...
Matt Dixon: What Today's Rainmakers Know About Client Loyalty and Personal Value 11.08.2025 35:31
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Matt Dixon discuss: Client relationship dynamics in professional services Shifts in legal business development and rainmaking strategies The role of value creation in winning and retaining clients Evolving mindsets and habits of successful professionals Key Takeaways: Top rainmakers (“activators”) don’t wait for paid work to provide value — they proactively del...
Stephen Seckler: Smart Strategies for Lawyers Who Hate Selling 07.08.2025 35:50
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Stephen Seckler discuss: How lawyers can better align their personalities with business development Navigating career transitions within the legal profession How meaningful networking creates long-term career momentum Leveraging authenticity and consistency to build a professional brand Key Takeaways: Lawyers who struggle with traditional selling can ease into...
Chris Earley: How Lawyers Can Win by Outworking and Outsharing the Competition 04.08.2025 33:01
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Chris Earley discuss: Shifting the lawyer's mindset from traditional practice to intentional business building Using content and social media to establish visibility and credibility Leveraging coaching, mentorship, and masterminds to level up professionally Bringing authenticity and consistency into legal marketing and personal growth Key Takeaways: Lawyers who d...
Nick Werker: The Overlooked Power of Intake and Client Communication 31.07.2025 34:30
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Nick Werker discuss: The importance of proper phone handling in law firm intake processes How customer experience begins with an intentional communication strategy Shifting lawyer mindsets around sales and client engagement The evolving standards of professionalism and wellness in legal practice Key Takeaways: Solo and small law firms often lose clients due to...
Ruby Powers: How Content Creation Drives Legal Practice and Client Connection 28.07.2025 33:09
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Ruby Powers discuss: The role of content creation in modern legal practice Building a personal brand as a legal professional Leveraging technology and AI in law firm marketing The intersection of entrepreneurship and legal career growth Key Takeaways: A thoughtfully created core asset—such as a podcast episode, webinar, or article—can be broken down and reimagi...
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