Cynthia Winward, Susan Hinckley

At Last She Said It

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At Last She Said It is a podcast that seeks to amplify and explore a variety of voices, stories, ideas and experiences of Mormon women.

Author

Cynthia Winward, Susan Hinckley

Category

Religion

Podcast website

www.atlastshesaidit.org

Latest episode

Jun 30, 2026

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Episodes

Episode 169: Embracing Your Journey | A Conversation with Lisa Torcasso Downing 02.01.2024

"My religious life is beyond the confines of my ward or stake," says Lisa Torcasso Downing, a Latter-day Saint woman for whom using her voice is an integral part of her faith life. She describes her long-running blog, Life Outside the Book of Mormon Belt: "That's where I've been saying it!" In Episode 169, she joins Susan and Cynthia for a rich conversation about everything from her unique convers...

Episode 168: Revisiting What Women Don't Get in our Church 26.12.2023

Some questions need to be revisited often so we don't lose sight of the fact that no satisfactory answer has been given. In Episode 91, Cynthia asked, "If history shows that patriarchy is bad for women, and data shows that girls and women fare better when they can see themselves at every level of leadership in our churches, schools, and societies…why do LDS women and men continue to cling to old i...

Episode 167: Behind the Scenes 19.12.2023

Sometimes it's good to just have fun! Episode 167 is a peek behind the curtain at ALSSI. Cynthia and Susan turn on the mics for an unscripted chat about everything from podcaster-pet-peeves to "spilled tea" to Christmas traditions. It's the kind of conversation that's probably good to publish now and then just to remind ourselves and everyone else: we're two average LDS women trying to keep it tog...

Episode 166: Embracing Your Journey | A Conversation with Lyric Montgomery Kinard 12.12.2023

Lyric Montgomery Kinard uses the word expansion to describe her faith journey because, as she says, "it feels like spirituality has burst my Mormon box wide-open." In Episode 166, she joins Susan and Cynthia to talk about her experiences as a Latter-day Saint. It's another glimpse into the life of a woman who's given herself permission to walk the path in her own way, honest about what fills her a...

Episode 165: BONUS | Still Talking About Patriarchal Blessings 08.12.2023

We asked, you answered! In Bonus Episode 165, women from the ALSSI community share personal experiences and thoughts about Patriarchal Blessings.

Episode 164: What About Patriarchal Blessings? 05.12.2023

When it comes to Patriarchal Blessings, there are as many experiences as there are members who give and receive them. In Episode 164, Cynthia and Susan are joined by Blakelee Ellis for a discussion about some of the many ways these highly anticipated blessings can be complicated for Latter-day Saint women. From the experience itself to the advice given or promises made, there can be plenty to unpa...

Episode 163: Finding Jesus Through Your Inner Compass | A Conversation with Autumn McAlpin 28.11.2023

The image of the compass feels central to Autumn McAlpin's book, But Jesus: A Conversation. Autumn explains, "Right now, my spiritual practice is centered on this—I read pure religion as found in the gospels in the New Testament, then try my best to keep up…" In Episode 163, she joins Cynthia and Susan to talk about the journey behind the book, and how her experiences as a mother and Latter-day Sa...

Episode 162: Stepping Out of the Box with Jesus—Claiming Space in the Gospel Narrative | A Conversation with Kajsa Berlin-Kaufusi 21.11.2023

"I'm tired of putting Jesus in a hermeneutical box nailed together by patriarchal exegesis," says Kajsa Berlin-Kaufusi. In Episode 162, she joins Cynthia and Susan to discuss what those words mean. What might they mean specifically for Latter-day Saint women as we approach the New Testament with a desire to broaden our scriptural understanding and interpretation? Can we excavate meaning by uncover...

Episode 161: Embracing Your Journey | A Conversation with Debbie Squires-Coleman 14.11.2023

"In the fleet, I'll sail my own boat," says Debbie Squires-Coleman. In Episode 161, she joins Cynthia and Susan from her home in England to share this and other insights in an Embracing Your Journey discussion about her experiences as a Latter-day Saint woman. It's a conversation about relationships and growth, full of wise glimpses into how it's possible to walk together in love, even on divergen...

Episode 160: At Last YOU Said It Part 2 | More Listener Voicemails 10.11.2023

In Bonus Episode 160, Susan and Cynthia share and discuss more ALSSI listener voicemails.

Episode 159: At Last YOU Said It | ALSSI Listener Voicemails 07.11.2023

We started this project in an effort to amplify Latter-day Saint women's voices and create a safe space for sharing ideas and experiences. In Episode 159, Cynthia and Susan dive into listener voicemails to hear, share, and discuss things women in the ALSSI community are saying.

Episode 158: Telling the Truth | A Conversation with Jana Riess 31.10.2023

Telling the truth can be complicated for a Latter-day Saint woman, even if we value honesty. It's hard to say out loud some of what we're thinking, feeling, or experiencing. At church or even in our families and close relationships we may self-censor with an 'okayness' filter: Is it uplifting? Faith promoting? Too negative? Does it cast the Church in an unfavorable light? Sound contentious? Will I...

Episode 157: Embracing Your Journey | A Conversation with Mer Monson 24.10.2023

Every faith path is walked one step at a time. Every woman's story is unique. In Episode 157, Cynthia and Susan are joined by Mer Monson to talk about her journey so far, and how the ground she's traveled informs the way she's walking now. It's a conversation that radiates hard-won wisdom, an inspiring glimpse into one Latter-day Saint woman's spiritual life.

Episode 156: What About Consent? 17.10.2023

There are many touchpoints with consent in a Latter-day Saint woman's church life. From baptism to temple ordinances to accepting callings, we say yes over and over again, sometimes without ever seriously engaging our options. In Episode 156, Susan and Cynthia unpack consent. There are good reasons a woman might say 'yes' even while something inside her is saying 'no,' but true consent isn't coerc...

Episode 155: To the Children of the Mothers in Zion | A Conversation with Susie Augenstein 10.10.2023

For Latter-day Saint women in 1987, expectations outlined by the prophet were explicit: "Mothers in Zion," he said, "Your God-given roles are so vital to your own exaltation and to the salvation and exaltation of your family." In episode 155, Susan and Cynthia are joined by Susie Augenstein to break down the messaging mothers received then and have raised children in the shadows of since. It's no...

Episode 154: What About Racism? | A Conversation with Tamu Smith 03.10.2023

"What could a Relief Society lesson on racism look like?" "What do you wish other members of the Church knew about what it's like to be a Black Latter-day Saint in 2023?" Cynthia asked Tamu Smith these questions and more as they visited in Cynthia's kitchen with the recorder running. In Episode 154, Tamu shares her personal insights and answers in a wide-ranging, thoughtful conversation between tw...

Episode 153: When Women Can't Stay 26.09.2023

Embracing our journey means accepting that every individual's path is different. While some Latter-day Saint women think about why they stay, others will be thinking about why they make the choice not to. In Episode 153, two women who found stepping away from church engagement to be the right choice for them share their personal stories. It's a conversation about why leaving is not as easy as some...

Episode 152: Spelling It Out 19.09.2023

For some Latter-day Saint women, embracing the journey may include reckoning with difficult aspects of the church experience that are specific to women. Some may choose to leave when they find their personal cost exceeds their benefit. In Episode 152, Susan and Cynthia muddy the water around the decision to 'stay' with a frank discussion about things a woman may have to accept, ignore, or sacrific...

Episode 151: Embracing Your Journey | A Conversation with Aubrey Chaves 12.09.2023

Every Latter-day Saint woman is on her own journey of faith. We describe it using all kinds of language, and some days the path ahead seems a lot clearer than other days. We each carry our own baggage, our own maps, our own stories of how we came to be where and who we are. Learning to relax into change in this part of our lives can be difficult in a religion where we hear phrases like 'immovable...

Episode 150: Why We Stay 05.09.2023

Season 7 begins with a series of conversations exploring reasons some women continue to find spiritual value participating in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and some do not. Every individual has her own faith story, and in Episode 150, Cynthia and Susan ask themselves and each other the question listeners continue to ask more than any other: Why do you stay?

Episode 149: BONUS | Still Making Peace 15.08.2023

Where are you turning for peace these days? It can feel elusive on a shifting path! In bonus Episode 149, Cynthia and Susan revisit an earlier conversation to compare notes and discuss things they're still learning when it comes to the ongoing challenge of 'making and doing' personal peace.

Episode 148: BONUS | Still Asking—Where's the Priesthood in That? 01.08.2023

In this bonus episode, Susan and Cynthia discuss new thoughts and old frustrations around a previous conversation from ALSSI Episode 35 about church callings and priesthood authority. What is changing when it comes to organizational roles for Latter-day Saint women, and what hasn't changed at all? Is there movement toward greater equality in our church opportunities and experiences? Are women gett...

Episode 147: BONUS | Revisiting the Map 18.07.2023

In this episode, Cynthia and Susan add a few new thoughts to their conversation from Season 1 about going off the edge of one's map in pursuit of a more personalized spiritual life. In this discussion ALSSI listeners will recognize the seeds of many foundational ideas about the importance of spiritual empowerment for Latter-day Saint women that this podcast has continued to develop and explore in...

Episode 146: BONUS | Revisiting the Rule Breaking Woman 04.07.2023

In Episode 146, Cynthia and Susan revisit The Rule Breaking Woman to discuss what her story can teach Latter-day Saint women about spiritual empowerment. It's a scriptural example of a woman who took a big risk, and received exactly what she was seeking in return. Sometimes getting what we need may require us to make choices that are at odds with what others deem acceptable or appropriate.

Episode 145: Season 6 | That's a Wrap! 20.06.2023

Finale Episode 145 is a look back at Susan and Cynthia's sixth season of ALSSI conversations: identifying themes, adding additional thoughts, discussing listener responses, and thinking ahead.

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