Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson
Around the Circle | An Enneagram Channel
The Enneagram is a map of the human personality. It’s a tool for navigating relationships. It creates language for what motivates us and helps us look at the way we look at everything else. Most importantly the enneagram is a mirror; because sometimes you need help seeing yourself.
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Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson
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Jul 9, 2026
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Episodes
Kristin Messegee | "Inside Story" 16.10.2025 50:26
Jeff and TJ sit down with Kristin Messegee —an Enneagram Six coach and the host of Life Uninhibited —to announce her new narrative-style show, " Inside Story " joining the ATC family of podcasts. We talk why real growth needs empathy, why stories teach better than diagrams, and how narrative Enneagram work helps us become emotional adults. • Subscribe to Kristin's new Podcas...
Early Access | Enneagram 8 | Meaghan in Portland 14.10.2025 46:49
Early Access on iTunes: HERE Early Access on Spotify: HERE Enneagram and Gender Discussion : HERE Music is by GIANTS AND PILGRIMS Katie's Work : HERE Continuing her journey around the Enneagram, Katie talks to Meaghan, a freelance American Sign Language interpreter who loves traveling, new restaurants, and advocating for the deaf community. We talk about the difference between anger and rage,...
Mistyping Twos | Part Two with Jackie Contessa 13.10.2025 1:02:46
Jeff sits back down with Enneagram coach Jackie Contessa to walk through mistyping between twos and threes through nines. If this helps, check the full Mistyping Chart Jackie co-authored in the back of our book Around the Circle . Or find Jackie at @tablefornineco and jackieccesa.com.
Generations | Boomer, Silent, Greatest with Tyler Zach 09.10.2025 54:38
Link to the upcoming EnneaSummit : HERE Link to all of our other work : HERE Jeff sits down with Tyler Zach to preview his upcoming Midlife Summit (Oct 21–24). They dig into why “midlife has a branding problem,” the U-curve of happiness, and how the second half can move us from productivity to fruitfulness. Tyler shares tear-worthy moments from the panels (don’t miss the Sevens), why 60 is still “...
Early Access with Katie Whitlock | Michael - Enneagram 7 07.10.2025 45:27
Early Access on iTunes: HERE Early Access on Spotify: HERE Music is by GIANTS AND PILGRIMS Our inaugural Episode! In this discussion on Early Access , host Katie Whitlock sits down with her close friend Michael —an Ironman-in-training, soon-to-be husband, and a reluctant but curious student of the Enneagram.
Mistyping Twos | with Jackie Contessa 06.10.2025 43:18
Enneagram Two gets a fresh look. Jeff sits down with coach and creator Jackie Contessa to unpack why “the Helper” label misses the mark and how that shortcut fuels mistyping. They trace the real motives at play—pride, flattery, intrusion, hidden grief, and the drive to “etch a role” in others’ lives—and name how gendered expectations distort typing (why many women lean Two and many men avoid it)....
Gen Z 01.10.2025 1:31:40
Like the Enneagram, our Generation--its technologies and events--shape how we see the world. In this conversation with Katie Whitlock, we will be exploring the values and cultural markers of Gen X, Millennials, and Gen Z, weaving together films, music, shared culture, and the defining experiences that mark each era. Connect with us at www.aroundthecircle.org
Mistyping | Ben From L.A. | 8 or 1 29.09.2025 54:30
Get connect to all our work at www.aroundthecircle.org In this episode, Jeff sits down with counselor Ben from Los Angeles for a live Enneagram mistyping session—could he be a principled One, a justice-driven Eight, or an analytical Five? From his early years in LA to a career in corrections and counseling, Ben shares stories of resilience, accountability, and the ongoing work of channeling anger...
Millennials 24.09.2025 1:18:38
Like the Enneagram, our Generation--its technologies and events--shape how we see the world. In this conversation with Katie Whitlock, we will be exploring the values and cultural markers of Gen X, Millennials, and Gen Z, weaving together films, music, shared culture, and the defining experiences that mark each era. Connect with us at www.aroundthecircle.org
Mistyping | Sandy from Chicago | 4, 5 or 9 15.09.2025 1:21:03
See all of our best material at: aroundthecircle.org ! In this Mistyping session, Sandy from Chicago—a leadership and development coach—traces how infertility,and a bruising conservatory experience pushed her from “just tell me what to do” health coaching into deeper inner work. We talk holding space for grief without “positivity bullying,” growing up Midwestern “everything’s fine,” motorcycles as...
Generation X 10.09.2025 1:09:15
Like the Enneagram, our Generation--its technologies and events--shape how we see the world. In this conversation with Katie Whitlock, we will be exploring the values and cultural markers of Gen X, Millennials, and Gen Z, weaving together films, music, shared culture, and the defining experiences that mark each era. In this episode we tackle Gen X: from latchkey kids and divorce to the rise of the...
Mistyping | Elliot from the UK | 9, 1 or 6 08.09.2025 46:36
Jeff sits down with Elliot, a Kiwi in London. They trace Elliot’s deconstruction and church life, his work building inclusive spaces, and how the Enneagram has helped him sort clarity from certainty.
Dr. Sam Greenberg | Sex and The Enneagram 03.09.2025 1:04:35
Sexuality isn’t just behavior—it’s an internal experience. We sit down with researcher-coach Dr. Sam Greenberg to map how Enneagram type and instincts shape desire, cues, assertiveness, and intimacy. Sam outlines the gifts and challenges of each instinct, why instincts often predict sexual patterns more than type, how repressed instincts show up in...
Mistyping | Tami from MI | 3, 4, 5, or 6 01.09.2025 1:14:20
Tammy joins Jeff for a live mistyping session that moves from opera halls to IT dashboards—and into the deep stuff beneath type. A lifelong Michigander with three degrees, a choir section-leader, and a self-described “walking contradiction,” Tammy is blunt and kind, fiercely independent, and devoted to care (for people…and five cats). Together we explore comparison, authenticity, and the tension b...
Sarina Sherring | Enneagram Coach | 20 Questions 27.08.2025 54:18
Jeff had a stellar conversation with Enneagram Coach, Spiritual Director and Founder @reflecttheoriginal , Sarina Sherring. You can connect to her work here: www.reflecttheoriginal.au For the full interview go to: aroundthecircle.org
Mistyping | Amanda from Michigan | 2, 9 or 4? 25.08.2025 1:15:30
This week we are joined by Amanda from Michigan. This was an excellent conversation! If you are interested in our mistyping guide : GO HERE The guide is only in the print version.
TJ Teems | Professional Counselor | Enneagram Two 20.08.2025 46:14
This is a wonderful interview with the fantastic TJ Teems. Tj is a professional Enneagram Counselor in California. You can connect with her : HERE Sign up for a membership to all of our stuff : HERE
Mistyping | Griffin in Texas | 1, 3, 4 or 7 18.08.2025 1:02:57
This one felt more difficult and we spent a lot of time looking not only at 1347, but you will hear a lot of questions for 2 and 6 as well. Jump in, tell us your thoughts on Spotify comments or on our website. __ The mistyping guide is **EXCLUSIVELY** in the print version of the book. And can be found here: https://a.co/d/g7jBNnj
"Heroes" | Type 7 | Robin Williams Concluded 14.08.2025 27:16
We continue our deep dive into Heroes in film, this time choosing to elevate a singular actor. If you are interested in seeing info about the Weld County Food Bank : GO HERE You can connect with us and see all our best stuff at : aroundthecircle.org And check out Movie Typing : HERE
Mistyping | Lauren in Texas | 6, 8 or 1 11.08.2025 1:08:32
If you are interested in doing a mistyping recording with Jeff, become a Member at www.aroudthecircle.org and send us a message on our website. We would love to talk with you!
Mistyping Monday | An Introduction 11.08.2025 5:54
Do check out our book as a resource, especially the last 100 pages which are dedicated to mistyping. FIND IT HERE
"Heroes" | Type 7 | Robin Williams | Part III ("Birdcage," "Good Will Hunting" and "What Dreams May Come") 08.08.2025 1:00:48
We continue our deep dive into Heroes in film, this time choosing to elevate a singular actor. If you are interested in seeing info about the Weld County Food Bank : GO HERE You can connect with us and see all our best stuff at : aroundthecircle.org And check out Movie Typing : HERE
Mistyping | Danielle Reassessed | Type 6 or 7? 04.08.2025 40:13
We continue our series of conversations with our friends looking to find their enneagram type. _____ Our Start Here Podcast and our Basics series is : HERE All our Best material is at aroundthecircle.org
"Heroes" | Type 7 | Robin Williams | Part II 01.08.2025 1:06:01
We continue our deep dive into Heroes in film, this time choosing to elevate a singular actor. If you are interested in seeing info about the Weld County Food Bank : GO HERE You can connect with us and see all our best stuff at : aroundthecircle.org
Mistyping | Danielle in Ottawa | 5 or 7? 28.07.2025 58:48
We continue our series of conversations with our friends looking to find their enneagram type. _____ Our Start Here Podcast and our Basics series is : HERE All our Best material is at aroundthecircle.org Our conversation with Joel Stabile is HERE Our Conversation with Jackie Brewster is HERE
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