Around the Circle | An Enneagram Channel

Every Tuesday at www.aroundthecircle.org we release a "Rewired" episode for all members. This is an example of our most recent discussion on stance. We dive into a big term debate in Enneagram world: what do we actually call the stance of Ones, Twos, and Sixes? Are they  compliant ,  dependent ,  responsive , or  reactive ? Katie comes in ready to retire some terms altogether,...

Michael Shahan to talk about what happens in the therapy room when “something different needs to happen” – and how our Enneagram type often **gets in the way* * of real transformation.  We look at the sneaky ways ego disguises itself as “doing the work,” why simply venting or collecting tools isn’t the same as change, and how type-patterns show up when clients resist the very shifts they say...

Apply to be interviewed on Early Access : HERE See our other work at : www.aroundthecircle.org Katie talks to her friend Kayci about what it feels like to be a reactive doer. We talk obligation, anger, and the struggle of juggling what you want vs the expectations of others.

Connect with Monique Here : Monique@empathyarchitects.com In this far-reaching Type Four conversation, Kristin Messegee sits down with Enneagram coach  Monique Lacoste to explore the inner landscape of one of the most mythologized and misunderstood Enneagram types. Together they trace what it means to carry intensity, to read truth on every level, and to live with the emotional realness of th...

For the full interview with Today and Josiah go : HERE Jeff sits down with Cody Harris and Josiah Goff, hosts of the Enneagram Five Podcast, to explore the inner world of Fives—especially male Fives who rarely get this kind of airtime. Cody and Josiah talk about deconstruction, neurodivergence, learning to actually  feel  emotions instead of just analyzing them, and how their podcast slo...

Apply to be interviewed on Early Access : HERE See our other work at : www.aroundthecircle.org In this Early Access episode, Katie introduces the next chapter of the series: additional interviews with each Enneagram number, beginning with a rich Type One conversation featuring Natasha. Natasha shares her journey into the Enneagram, her experience of body-centered intuition, and how Ones navigate a...

We sit down with Danielle Fuller, creator of  Scientific Enneagram , to preview her brand-new podcast coming to our channel in January 2026. Subscribe : on iTunes or on Spotify . Danielle is an engineer and a systems thinker who sees a huge gap between the world of Enneagram teaching and the world of science and research. Her passion is to become a bridge-builder between those two spaces, hel...

In this episode of  Early Access , Katie sits down with  Joleen Nguyen , a 32-year-old counterphobic Enneagram Six and new mom to explore the rich inner world of Sixes from the inside. Joleen shares how she first met the Enneagram through a flimsy one-paragraph description of Sixes, why it didn’t stick at first, and how returning to the Enneagram years later (after a deep love affair wit...

Kristin interviews Kelly Langley Cook: Enneagram Three, career educator, and the person who quietly shapes most future social studies teachers in Greeley, Colorado. Kelly spent two decades teaching high school before moving into higher ed, where she now focuses on LGBTQ+ U.S. history and teacher training at UNC. She also happens to share a life (and last name) with Jeff Cook, which means she’s liv...

Subscribe to Katie's feed : HERE Connect with all our workshops and "rewired" Podcast : HERE Sara from Utah joins Katie to open a window into life as an Enneagram Five. Sara unpacks the difference between physical retreat (car, corner, time-out) and an emotional shutdown that feels like a cloud rolling over the mind. She explains why Fives can be read as “cold,” how she “thinks her feelings,” and...

We are beginning a huge project and would love your help. We will doing eight more interviews of this kind in 2026, for each of the types. If you are interested in being interviewed, please let us know either in the comments or send us a direct message. We need folks who are positive of their type, have done at least 3 years worth of work, and are familiar with our work. Thanks! Jeff __ We are spe...

This is the audio from our November workshop. SIGN UP FOR OUR DECEMBER 13th WORKSHOP : HERE ____ What happens when our Enneagram type stops helping and starts hurting? In this live workshop, Katie and Jeff explore “Excess” – the low side of our core motive – and how each type ramps up its usual strategies until they begin to do damage to ourselves and the people we love. We’re joined by folks from...

Katie sits down with Cincinnati musician and producer  Timothy Edward Carpenter  to explore the inner landscape of a Four: the pull toward the unattainable, the ache of “not enough,” and why connection only feels real in the deep end. Timothy speaks openly about chasing music dreams, choosing others’ projects over his own, rebuilding marriage, and learning to trust therapy without lettin...

In this episode of Inside Story, host Kristin Messegee ( @enneagram_6_coach ) sits down with Enneagram coach Jackie Contessa ( @tablefor9co ). Jackie talks about Twoness and pulling back the curtain on pride, need, the fear of lovelessness, the desire to be chosen, and the quiet grief Twos carry when they disconnect from themselves. Together, they explore what it means to...

For the full interview go : HERE Jeff and TJ sit down with Enneagram author Steph Barron Hall to rethink everything we’ve been told about arrows. Instead of simple “disintegration and growth” lines, Steph walks us into high side/low side movement in  both  directions, the role of Soul Child / recovery points, and how arrows actually support transformation when paired with balance in the...

This week, Katie talks to Sara, a local friend she met at one of her weekly Enneagram classes. We discuss medical school, DOING vs BEING, and what it feels like to subject yourself to constant comparison against other people (and maybe how to get out of it). There is some scratchy audio in the first five minutes of this podcast, but I promise that it quickly gets fixed!

To become a member and see our best work: GO HERE If you want to order Joey's book: GO HERE And our first book is HERE ___ Jeff and TJ sit down with Enneagram teacher and Enneagram theorist  Joey Schewee , author of the upcoming  When Working Together Doesn’t Work: An Enneagram Guide to Productive Relationships with Coworkers . Together they dig into  mistyping : what it  reall...

Subscribe to the Inside Story : HERE Become a Member of ATC : HERE In this episode, Kristin Messegee sits down with ATC host Jeff Cook to learn Type One from the inside out. They start with the inner critic—“like being tumbled by a six-foot wave”—and why Ones wish for an edit button in real life. Jeff shares how verbal processing helps his intuition lock in, what agency feels like in the body (“gl...

Katie sits down with Veronica, a 32-year-old Enneagram One and R&D scientist in Chicago, to trace how Ones learn to trust their gut, make room for gray, and respond to what’s needed. Veronica shares her path into the Enneagram, the “responsive stance” in a family with no assertive types, and why Ones often look “negative” when they’re actually reaching for what could be better. They compare On...

Subscribe to the Inside Story : HERE Become a Member of ATC : HERE In this episode, Kristin Messegee sits down with ATC host Jeff Cook to learn Type One from the inside out. They start with the inner critic—“like being tumbled by a six-foot wave”—and why Ones wish for an edit button in real life. Jeff shares how verbal processing helps his intuition lock in, what agency feels like in the body (“gl...

Link to our Workshop on Excess | HERE Become a Member of ATC | HERE In this episode, Jeff sits down with author and Enneagram Seven  Christa Harden  ("Enneagram in Marriage") to unpack how the three instincts—self-preserving, one-to-one, and social—shape relationships. They trace why self-care isn’t selfish but foundational, how biology meets typology, and why balance across instincts ma...

Link to our Workshop on Excess | HERE Up next, 2s!  Rebecca Dollard, founder of  The Motherhood Mentor , is a somatic healing practitioner that helps high-achieving women and mothers who “have it all together” but feel disconnected inside. Through somatic healing, nervous-system-based coaching, and enneagram she guides them to expand their capacity, soften their edges, and lead with powe...

LINKS TO THE NEW FEED: Inside Story on Spotify :  HERE Inside Story on iTunes :  HERE __ On this Episode, We’re kicking off Our New Podcast " Inside Story"  by turning the mic toward ATC co-host  T.J. Wilson (Type Nine) . This is a spacious, honest conversation about Nine life from inside —how “gut knowing” actually shows up, why autonomy matters so much to body types, and...

FOR THE REST OF THE EPISODE : GO HERE Or simply search for "Early Access" on you podcast platform of choice. ___ Up next: 9s! In this week’s episode, Katie talks to Rev. Andrew Bowles (he/him), a Certified  Narrative Enneagram  Teacher, professional member of the  International Enneagram Association , ordained minister, and experienced healthcare chaplain. We talk about why 5s and 9...

Many of you know we have a handful of things going on both personally and here at ATC; this is all the fun stuff and hard stuff. In this podcast we’ll be talking about everything from the end of one chapter to the opening of another. You can see all our new Podcast feeds at Our Enneagram Channel : HERE Quick Links: Saturday Online Workshops Free membership at AroundTheCircle.org Early Access podca...