After the Kids Go Down

To our lovely listeners -- Thank you! Thank you for joining us, sharing the podcast, and encouraging us along the way. We close out this year with some reflection, and we hope that this stirs some contemplation in you all as well! Listen to the end for an announcement. Happy holidays, ATKGD fam! And to the melancholy-prone souls out there, a bah humbug to all.

Trigger Warning: Suicidality, Self-Injury In this episode, we celebrate the first decade of Bona surviving an attempted suicide. She walks us through some of her thoughts — how she got there, what happened, and where she is now. 

Bona and Eileen reminisce on things that remind them of “home.” What do they hope to pass on to their kids? What’s important (or not) to their legacy?

Bona and Eileen went to Sissy Goff and David Thomas’s conference on raising emotionally healthy kids. Much of it was centered on anxiety in us as parents and how it shows up with the kids. In this episode, your hosts talk about some of their takeaways.

Eileen encounters a social situation revolving around the idea of “cool moms” and some inner turmoil ensues. Your hosts try to dig deep into their honesty about what they think of as cool, whether or not they feel cool, and what it might reveal. Bear with them through some cringey moments lol.

Stan and Andrew take over an episode and talk about what's on their minds. The topic du jour? Fatherhood. Enjoy this episode and the ladies will be back soon!

Perfectionism has plagued us in many ways. We explore what it looked like in our youth and how it shows up for us these days.

We sat down and had a conversation with Kaila Yu about her debut book, Fetishized .

Bona and Eileen revisit their headspaces at the beginning of summer vacation. All that intentionality and vision… so, did it all go to plan? What have we got lined up for fall?

Bona and Eileen talk about their experiences with entirely Asian American friend groups. Why do these relationships sometimes feel fraught with difficulty? It's a complicated love story.

Bona and Eileen invite their husbands on as guests, and the four of them talk about how they dealt with any kind of conflict growing up. How did these experiences and stories translate over time? Your hosts lived to tell the tale.

A trip to New York brings up some thoughts and questions for Bona around the casual use of profanity.

Summer 2025 is here! We’re readying ourselves for slower mornings, humid adventures, and, yes, even the chaos and boredom. How about you?

Do you consider yourself a competitive person? What makes this true or untrue for you? What lies beneath the narrative we tell ourselves? Your hosts turn over some rocks, and (at least with this episode) are prepared to leave it all out there. No regrets.

We’ve made it to 50 episodes! Here’s what we’ve been thinking about lately…on growth and what brings us to this moment.

A fun little “Who’s more likely to...” and “Would you rather…” during this grind of an April! Join us for some laughs sprinkled in with some moral dilemmas (of course!).

*This episode may include sensitive and triggering content related to toxic relationships and some violence.* What were some of your long held beliefs that have changed over time? Bona and Eileen share a few of theirs, both the silly and serious, and cheers to some new thoughts!

Bona and Eileen attended the StoryWork Conference (Uncover the Healing Power of Your Story) so you don’t have to! No, jk, you really should though. Your hosts recap why they went and some things they learned. Eileen examines a few stories with renewed perspective. Resources: The Allender Center Podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-allender-center-podcast/id936250143?i=1000685309594 Th...

This episode was recorded a little while ago, after we did an episode on beauty, Sephora tweens, and our ideas and expectations on appearance. That was episode 37 if you want to check it out. We thought it would be great to talk with Dr. Allison Wang, a dermatologist and also Bona’s sister-in-law, about her professional take on beauty and skincare, some myths, and what you may want to prioritize f...

In this episode, the ladies talk about all things cult documentary.

Whooo is that girl I seeee, staring straaaight back at meee? 🎵🎶 Your girls are back together, and how sweet it is! We are walking into 2025 and Season 3 with fresh eyes and open hearts. Join us as we reunite to share some key self reflections from the past year.

What elusive feeling are we trying to capture during the holiday season? If it's not wrong, why doesn't it feel right? Eileen is still trying to figure this one out and brings in her husband, Stan, for some back up. (She only mentions the Christmas cards once. A tiny millisecond mention. Promise.)

Eileen and Stan (a special guest filling in for Bona) talk about their time in Chicago and being part of an Asian American church plant — a mini rise and fall, if you will. They go into the need for healing, namely healing in community, and what it actually means to live as Christ lived. We hope you enjoy this one. Merry Christmas!

She’s got style, she’s got grace, she’s a lady! Well, two ladies. Bona and Eileen talk about their styles through the years, how body image has been intertwined with it, and how their perspectives have shifted over time.

The ladies chat about how they’re feeling during this season — the good, the bad, and all the in between — and the things they’re feeling thankful for. Happy Thanksgiving, y’all.