After the Kids Go Down

It’s Election Day! And your hosts talk politics…(cringe)…well, sort of. What they really talk about is the story behind the story. It’s about the idea of certainty and how it plays out in beliefs and opinions — both of which we know can be staunch and unwavering these days. What does being certain mean and how can it be detrimental to our openness to one another? What does it feel like to lay them...

Are you Team Halloween or Team Christmas? Eileen and Bona give their reasons as to which is the better holiday (Halloween, duh lol jk). Sprinkle in some costume ideas, spooky vibes, favorite candies, a “which seasonal vibe” are you profiling, and you’ve got yourself their annual Halloween episode!

The hosts talk about their ideas of beauty and the messages they received about it when they were young. Who gets to say what is and isn’t? These Sephora tweens?! Bona and Eileen wonder aloud how their kids will approach the ideas and expectations on appearance. Here’s hoping that the kids will be all right!

The hosts take another dive down into the abyss of motherhood, worth, and identity. Some new little lightbulbs have popped up since episode 6 of ATKGD, and they’re here to shed some light on what they’ve been thinking about.

This conversation is very near and dear to the hosts. They talk about what they did prior to becoming stay-at-home moms (SAHMs) and what all of it meant or didn’t to them. Is there a difference between the societal perception of what they do now as SAHMs vs. the real experience? Buckle in with us as we take a rocky ride through the notions of career, achievement, fulfillment, and most importantly,...

Summering is officially over for the both of us, and we’ve opened up our crisp new planners to shoot the shit while we also get our shit together. This episode has a smattering of it all. Our ick lists, some brain farts, a chilling story to prepare us for someone's favorite holiday, some big life updates, and other things on our minds as we step into a new season. We’re setting goals and farti...

In this special guest episode, your hosts chat with Eileen’s sister, Jessica Chong, all about enneagrams! They do a deep dive into what it’s all about, how they feel about its legitimacy, and what their own results are.

The girls are girlin’ today and letting out all sorts of thoughts on friendship as of late. Some key players in the conversation are authenticity, connection, and Phienna Varaon lol (iykyk). Some questions we ponder: Is it taboo to talk about the state of friendships? What are we truly looking for in friends? Can you outgrow these relationships? Also...can anyone let us in on the secrets of the gi...

Listen to how Bona and Eileen ended up watching the latest popular rom-com (after Bona previously stated how she disliked them) and their beef with “mommy porn.” They talk about the movie “The Idea of You” and other works included in this purported genre. And, of course, they get into some of the nitty gritty stuff underneath the surface. Get ready for an amateur hour movie review where Eileen for...

How do you react to your child’s anger? Does it make you angry? Does the crying send you over the edge? Why does it do that?! In this episode, we talk about our reactivity, intolerance, and hypervigilance to the very normal emotion of anger, especially with our daughters. We explore where we think it’s coming from, and how we’re trying to push through to connect with our kids as well as ourselves...

Back at it for round two of our summer series Q&A! We’re keeping it light and fresh here! Except this book list (see below). This book list be thick. Enjoy! Bona’s Reading List: Jesus I Trust in You, by Sister Faustina Maria Pia, S.V. Risen Motherhood, by Emily Jensen and Laura Wifler A Celebration of Vulva Diversity, by Hilde Atalanta How Much of These Hills Is Gold, by C Pam Zhang Minor Feel...

What was our first impression of each other? What are our current hot takes? What do we do when we’re stressed out? Get to know us a little more this summer! ;)

Meet Bona’s little [but not so little anymore] brother! Dr. Damian Dongho Gwak is board certified in adult psychiatry, and board-eligible in child and adolescent psychiatry. He lives in the Chicagoland area. In this episode, he talks with us about his field and what most interests him. He also shares some practical parenting tools and strategies he’s learned from the job and working with families...

What do you do for fun? What did you think was fun when you were young? And what do you think is fun now? Are there things people typically find fun that you don’t? Bona and Eileen dance, laugh, and breeze their way through this one after the kids go down. They also take a page from Catherine Price’s work on The Power of Fun and talk about what she defines as “true” fun: a combination of playfulne...

The husbands are back on! Our families went on spring break together to the beautiful mountains of Blue Ridge. What better to do than make ‘em record an episode with us *after the kids went down* about tryna keep up with it all? With the Joneses, Lees, and Kims of our world? Join our aggressively whispered, slightly uncomfortable, yet crucial conversation.

TW: This episode contains conversations around body image disturbances, body dysmorphia, and self harm. Bona and Eileen talk about their memories and experiences with disturbed body image and body dysmorphia. They go in depth about when and how it started, the influence of peers and family, and the complicated process of recovery. What is it like for them now? How much has social media changed thi...

Eileen and Bona wrap up Women’s History Month with this little beauty of a conversation — what they think of feminism these days, who they are as women, sexism, patriarchy, and how they're navigating the mess of it all personally and in their families. It sure as hell ain't easy, but they believe it's important nonetheless. After all, we're all in this together, right? Right?! They...

How do you react to your child’s anger? Does it make you angry? Does the crying send you over the edge? Why does it do that?! In this episode, we talk about our reactivity, intolerance, and hypervigilance to the very normal emotion of anger, especially with our daughters. We explore where we think it’s coming from, and how we’re trying to push through to connect with our kids as well as ourselves...

We all have our shit to deal with. The stuff on the counters, the closets, the garage, the attic. The stuff we’ve had since high school, since the last move, since it stopped being used and collecting dust. This is what Bona and Eileen do with their own shit. Is it healthy? Is it normal? Is there more to all of this than meets the eye? Probably not and probably so. Let’s muck around together and f...

With Valentine’s Day around the corner, we thought it fitting to have our husbands on for a little Q&A sesh! Get to know them with a peek into our relationships - all the silly, the serious, and maybe even some salacious deets. This was a fun episode that we hope y’all enjoy. We’ll list the questions down below if you want to follow along to ask your partner as well! Spend time with your loved...

Blair Kim, fellow Asian-American podcaster and host of “When I Grow Up,” joins us on this episode! She opens up on how the postpartum experience affected her and the relationships in her life. Each of us share glimpses into our first months of motherhood and about navigating the blues, depression, and anxiety surrounding it. As we weave through our individual stories, we see how much of it is conn...

The hosts welcome in the new year with a reading of their horoscopes…which Bona may or may not go to confession for later. 🫣 It’s TBD, but what they do know is that this year will be a good one. 😎 They determine what goals are “in” for them as well as what habits are “out.” Join them as they kick off this 2024 year of the dragon!

We’re rounding the corner of another year, and our first year of the ATKGD podcast in the books! In this episode, we revisit the Christmas card controversy from episode 1, share a new perspective on the nativity scene, and discuss what advent is really about. See if you can hang onto the ride while we make a connection from Elf on the Shelf to generational curses. Lol. Sometimes, we surprise even...

What were we like as first-time parents? And then as we added more to our broods? In this episode, we share stories and experiences on what our lives were like as our families grew. Stay tuned for the end when we talk about some of the best/worst parenting advice we got along the way!

C’mon in and listen up as ya girlies spill the tea! (Is that something people still say?! Are we on trend?!) What’s on their bucket lists? Which phone apps do they use the most? What are their quirks? How would friends describe them? In this episode, you’ll find out some interesting tidbits — both ridiculous and intimate — about your two hosts. As always, thank you for your support!