After the Deluge

The original Jackson Browne interview just got hit with a c*pyright strike, so here's a video version without the song clips. Originally aired in 2023. Our guest on the Season One finale is Jackson Browne (!) and we talk about his whole career, from writing "These Days" at 16 up to his latest record, Downhill From Everywhere. Reach me at delugepodcast@gmail.com. LISTEN TO THE FULL JA...

Jonathan Bernstein is a Senior Research Editor for Rolling Stone and author of the new book What Do You Do When You’re Lonesome? — the authorized biography of Justin Townes Earle. You can buy it now . We talk about the night we learned of Justin's death, songs about heroin and crack, writing descriptively about finger picking, Justin made his father the villain, the last quarter-century of roo...

Chris DeVille is Managing Editor at Stereogum and author of the book Such Great Heights , available for preorder now. We talk about the 2007 Bon Iver  debut album, For Emma, Forever Ago . Also going cabin-mode in the Wisconsin winter, this album's lore, the indie landscape in '08, Pitchfork kingmaking, The OC, Garden State, Popt*mism, gentrifying indie music, hearing "Skinny Love" at my bad recess...

Season 4 of After the Deluge will go album by album through the Bon Iver discography with a new guest on each episode, starting in the cabin with For Emma, Forever Ago and going in all kinds of directions from there. Subscribe an tell a friend. Support the show, get a zine. For Emma episode is live now: patreon.com/afterthedeluge -- @routinelayup

Michele Catalano has posted prolifically about music on the internet for years. She’s 62 years old and recently launched ihavethatonvinyl.com . We talk seeking out new music as we age, classic rock, new wave, 2015 was a bad music year for her, she bought her new website’s domain in 2004 and forgot she had it, writing about her record collection, Songs for the Deaf , Brand New, Covid collecting, an...

Longmont Potion Castle is a beloved recording artist and anonymous prank caller from Colorado. Interview starts at 11 mins. We talk about touring-band soundtracks, flipwild, deep and uncontrollable laughter, bruschotti, piglets, “After the Deluge” by Sodom, his daily conversation style, the Longmont documentary, whether his calls are mean-spirited, squid sandwiches, Otis, he’s not a comedian, a co...

Dylan Tupper Rupert is the host of the podcast series, Groupies . It's the latest season of KCRW's Lost Notes . She's also Producer Emeritus for Bandsplain. We talk about birth control, the dawn of punk, a scandalous take on Cosmo  in 1971, making a show about sexual relationships between rock stars and teens, that Cormac McCarthy Vanity Fair story, the vampiric energy of Jimmy Page, Pamela Des Ba...

Jason Stewart is co-host of the podcast How Long Gone . We talk about foreplay in interviewing, lightweight counter-programming when everything's political, Ep. 50 with Willy Staley, listening to podcasts is Gen Z meditation, early Adam Carolla, The Mount Rushmore of Glendale Podcasters, not asking bands about their music, How Long Gone’s marketing strategy, the Snail Mail episode, Guns & Roses ba...

Today it's a short one about a couple of quintessential Jackson Browne songs. My guest is Patrick Lyons and the impetus for this episode is these two recent articles about the songs "These Days" and "The Pretender." Patrick wrote the latter, and both articles are great. The Song That Connects Jackson Browne, Nico and Margot Tenenbaum, by Bob Mehr (NYT) https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/12/arts/music...

This is a conversation about the 2024 Bright Eyes record Five Dice, All Threes . My guest is Justin Corwin and we discuss The National, Elon Musk in virgin whites, Cat Power, the Alex Orange Drink discourse, Bright Eyes and friendship, Mogis/Nate Walcott, Down in the Weeds , movie-dialogue motif, actually Scorsese is good and Frank Sinatra sucks, Phoebe Bridgers, Real Feel 105, Stevie Nicks singin...

Alex plays in The So So Glos and was a formative influence on the new Bright Eyes record, Five Dice, All Threes — out Sept 20th. We talk about Waxahatchee, islands in the PNW, why his body can’t break down protein, his cancer diagnosis, living as if you’re dying, crashing at Conor Oberst's house in LA, casually writing new Bright Eyes songs, a stripped-down record, phone calls between Alex and...

Pieter Pastoor is the host of Listening Lyrics, a weekly radio show on KDRTfm in Davis, CA. Pieter is 79 years old and he puts out a radio show every week. The first podcast-adjacent thing I ever did was go on his show a decade ago. Fun one for me. We talk about his failed attempt to interview poets in the “late 1900s,” open mic nights, recording live and not overthinking it, interviewing locals &...

Daniel Ralston is the writer and producer of the podcast series The True Story of the Fake Zombies , available everywhere. We talk about “Time of the Season” blowing up without The Zombies knowing about it, Rolling Stone's Ben Fong Torres, Buzzfeed’s longform era, turning an article into a podcast, ? & the Mysterians, the ZZ Top of it all, small-town history museums, Huell Howser, 70s arti...

Steven Hyden is a writer and podcaster whose new book, There Was Nothing You Could Do, is out now. We talk about the Patio Hall of Fame, why he’s a terrible DJ, vinyl is for suckers, music hits different on the patio, Skynyrd vs. Neil Young, Steve picks the most patio-friendly Radiohead and Pearl Jam records, how he writes so damn much, small-town newspapers, a Mr. Miyagi analogy we can all learn...

Miranda Reinert is a writer, podcaster and zine maker. We talk about making a full-on magazine, Jimmy Montague/Taking Meds, getting ideas out of your head and into the world, The End of Merch?, your double-knee Carhartts are a social signifier, creating something that lasts, tangibility, Grace Robins-Somerville on Hole’s Live Through This, what are you communicating when you post your Last.fm 4x4s...

Do artists get worse with age or can they get more interesting? Behold the Jokermen Mindset. Ian and Evan of the Jokermen podcast and I talk about approaching music with an empty head, Dylan’s Philosophy of Modern Song, when artists DO just get shittier with age, Albini & Steely Dan, what song would a group of Canadian bachelor party bros sing together over a cliffside?, “mid TV” and boring ar...

Laura Jane Grace is the songwriter behind Against Me! We discuss meaningless songs, the 7-hour Beatles documentary, she quit horoscopes, big life changes, Travis Barker on Rick Rubin, Operation Ivy reunion vs. Fugazi reunion, hoarding guitars, “Fit But You Know It” by The Streets, Butch Vig gave Laura homework, Franz Ferdinand-core, bitching about the music industry in song, Laura’s favorite Nirva...

This one's not like the others. It's four pals in a room doing an Against Me! song draft while drinking Rainiers and eating junk. It's dumb and wonderful and only on Patreon: AGAINST ME! -- Guests: Ryan Page, RJ Myers, Matt Helms, Justin Cox (me)

Jordan Kleeman started Crasshole Records as a teenager and put out several early Against Me! EPs including this legendary self-titled 12” record. We talk about the first version of “Walking is Still Honest,” why this beautiful record sounds like shit, a decade of touring with Against Me!, and holding down that synth-key note on “8 Hours of Full Sleep.” Just a wonderful person and a perfect boomera...

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Casey Plett is an author from Canada. We talk about coming out in a Rolling Stone article, dissecting The Ocean, seeing Against Me! In Winnipeg on the Transgender Dysphoria Blues tour, low-key gesturing back to Reinventing Axl Rose w/ those first snare hits, the novel “Nevada” by Imogen Binnie, “Rough surf on the coast, I wish I could have spent the whole day alone,” misinterpreting the message of...

Steak Mtn (Christopher Norris) did the art for several Against Me! records including this one. We talk about the album White Crosses, the revolution being a lie, collaborating on art with Laura, Christopher's not a fan of anarcho-bucket music, getting that Warner Bros. money, this album has sheen but it also has teeth, the iconic Transgender Dysphoria Blues meat-cube album cover, scanning porn...

Ben Lee is a musician from Australia now in LA. We talk about New Wave, having his mind blown on a flight to Australia, trusting Tegan and Sara’s taste, a punk-rock duet, why Ben covered this record, the music industry changes so why resist it, would you take the Hyundai sponsorship, would you open for Maroon 5?, New Wave is a historical document, clunky sentences as catchy choruses, “Be my Baby,”...

Keegan Bradford (⁠ @franziamom ⁠) plays in Camp Trash and writes about music online. We talk about Against Me!’s Searching for a Former Clarity , folk-punk being out of fashion, Algernon Cadwallader as a fictional band, hostile fanbases, Florida geography and scene dynamics, the best record ever about arguing on the internet, AM!’s miserable ascent, Laura breaks out the band's financials, Form...

This week we go to the movies. I'm joined by Dan Bassini and Andrew Valentine of the Run into the Ground podcast to talk about the 2004 Against Me! tour documentary We're Never Going Home , which sees the band getting courted by major labels and fucking with their fellow touring bands. Plus Asbury Park, depressing East Coast beaches, and iconic venue carpets. It's a fun one. [WATCH VID...