After the Deluge

Austin Lucas is a musician whose latest album is called Reinventing Against Me! We talk about being crust-adjacent, Austin’s path from hardcore to country, The Go-Gos, the Axl cover, live-streaming through the early pandemic, "Oh Donna," knocking out a record in two days, John Mellencamp’s background singer, that snare drum tone, St. Anger, Fall Out Boy’s “We Didn’t Start the Fire,” argu...

Crime as Forgiven By Against Me! was released in 2001 and followed that same year by the band's self-titled acoustic EP. Frank Turner is a musician from England. He joined us from his studio while working on his next album. We talk about knocking out records, Alternative Press , diagonal haircuts, gatekeeping subgenres of emo, Frank was a few high school grades behind Against Me!, the Crime EP...

Season 3 of After the Deluge goes album by album through the Against Me! discography with a new guest on each episode, starting with their early days in Gainesville followed by records released on No Idea and Fat Wreck Chords before signing to a major label deal—all of that before Transgender Dysphoria Blues. Joining us on the finale is Laura Jane Grace herself. It's on all podcast apps as of...

I talked to Dan Ozzi, author of the book Sellout , about his recent Fader piece about The Armed—a band/collective/cult from Detroit. We jump from there into early 2010s music writing, hearing new music as you get old, editing Noisey in the early 2010s, getting nostalgic about Chumped, media now vs. media then, when the label or publisher asks you to do corny stuff, selling out, "lying Lydia Tár" ....

Tim Kasher returns for a special episode about The Good Life’s Album of the Year. We talk about Zooming with Conor Oberst on bad wifi, his upcoming tour, his high school band March Hares opening for 311, Tim’s Red Hot Chili Peppers horoscope theory, Inmates, early 2000s Saddle Creek albums about substances, Cursive, debauchery and heartache, Tim loves musicals, I get a little emo about the seasons...

I talk to Conor Oberst of Bright Eyes about Jackson Browne, emo, being a child among the Saddle Creek teens, showing ambition in a slacker scene, Pitchfork reviews, a wild story behind “Soul Singer in a Session Band," his songs making sense to him but maybe not to you, Conor’s media diet, listening to audiobooks about feathers, do people pay too much attention to politics now?, AI and Chat GPT, Th...

GET THIS EPISODE AND THE WHOLE BRIGHT EYES SERIES Brian Howe is a music, arts and culture critic for Pitchfork and many other outlets. Evan Bailey sings and plays guitar in the band Oh, Lonesome Ana. We talk about the Bright Eyes record Cassadaga, experimental album art, mysticism, fiddles, Brian discovering Fevers & Mirrors, meaning outside of religion, reassessing this record, high fidelity...

Ian Cohen (Pitchfork/Indiecast) and I talk about Fevers and Mirrors, a pivotal moment for Bright Eyes and Saddle Creek. Check out Ian's excellent Pitchfork review of the vinyl reissue in 2012.  Also discussed: Dashboard Confessional, Emo, long intro tracks to chase off the squares, early Pitchfork, Rolling Stone reviews for old rockers, bands swinging BIG, our embarrassing teenage journals, St...

Season two of After the Deluge goes album by album through the Bright Eyes discography, from the basement recordings in Omaha through the pandemic release after a decade-long hiatus, and some real classics in between. We've got guests like Tim Kasher, Todd Fink, and Conor Oberst himself. FULL BRIGHT EYES SERIES ONLY ON P@TREON THANKS $P*T*FY

Our guest on this season's finale is Jackson Browne (!) and we talk about his whole career, from writing "These Days" at 16 up to his latest record, Downhill From Everywhere. Reach me at delugepodcast@gmail.com. LISTEN TO THE FULL JACKSON BROWNE SEASON

In Episode 5 we talk about the Jackson Browne album Running on Empty with music critic, author and songwriter Holly Gleason—basically a legend in my estimation. This is the episode where I realized this podcast After the Deluge could not only work, but feel transcendent. She's a legit one of a kind. FULL SEASON ABOUT EVERY OTHER JACKSON BROWNE ALBUM

Join me for a deep-dive through the Jackson Browne discography starting with his first five albums, which I believe represent one of the best five-album runs by any artist ever. Each podcast episode is built upon an interview with a different musician or writer close to Jackson Browne’s music. Every episode about every Jackson Browne album is live now: FULL JACKSON BROWNE SEASON ON PATREON