Daniel Patterson & Nate Shaw

7-Figure Music School

7-Figure Music School is a podcast for music school owners who want to create fantastic margins, hire energetic teachers, and leverage their team's time and talent to create a sustainable business. Join hosts Daniel Patterson, Founder & CEO of Grow Your Music Studio, and Nate Shaw, Co-founder & CEO of Brooklyn Music Factory, as you create YOUR 7-figure music school.

Author

Daniel Patterson & Nate Shaw

Category

Education

Podcast website

7fms.captivate.fm

Latest episode

Dec 17, 2025

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Episodes

Date Night at Your Music School! | 7FMS107 14.02.2024

In honor of the “holiday of love”... I convinced Nate to do an episode on a special program they have at Brooklyn Music Factory: Date night! Parents drop off the kids at BMF for their Date Night… And kids have a blast in this special 3-hour program. In this episode, we discuss: What’s date night? How does it work? Why does BMF do it? How profitable is it for BMF? The underlying principles that mak...

Live Coaching with 6 Studio Owners | 7FMS106 07.02.2024

In today’s episode, we are releasing more audio of a live special event that we held at Brooklyn Music Factory back in December. This is an excerpt from a Q&A that we did… As we answered questions that six clients asked us at this special event. Here’s what we talked about: How do you make good decisions in your music school? How do you know what your school's strategy should be? Should you se...

Invisible Music School Owners (w. Erika and Adam) | 7FMS105 31.01.2024

Most music school owners are overworked because they are putting an enormous amount of energy into their school. They are the school. This is not sustainable. And - it prevents your school from ever being a business (instead of just a self-employment vehicle)... In this episode, we talk with Adam and Erika Gingery about the unique way in which they are building their school… so that they are not a...

Commercial Leases, Building Your Team, and Long-Term Business Relationships | 7FMS104 24.01.2024

New episode is out… we recorded a podcast episode in the lobby of Brooklyn Music Factory. This is a good one! Be sure to check out the video version of the podcast! - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school: growyourmusicstudio.com/free Get updates and FREE workshop invites from Nate and Daniel: growyourmusicstudio.co...

How to Improve Your Team’s Efficiency | 7FMS103 17.01.2024

Do you have a team? Do you want them to run your music studio for you? If so, you need to hear this practical episode on team communication. - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school: growyourmusicstudio.com/free Get updates and FREE workshop invites from Nate and Daniel: growyourmusicstudio.com/7fms If the podcast ha...

SEO, Emotional Energy, and Google Reviews (w. Erika and Adam) | 7FMS102 10.01.2024

In this episode of the 7-Figure Music School podcast, Daniel interviews Adam and Erika, the owners of Philadelphia Piano Institute… We talk about how to generate more teacher applications, get parents to trust you, conserving emotional energy, and a lot more! - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school: growyourmusicstu...

Performance Reviews in Your Music School | 7FMS101 03.01.2024

Nate and Daniel kick off 2024 with an important topic… Performance reviews for your team (whether office staff or teachers). However, they go beyond just talking about HOW to give a performance review by asking an important question: What motivates your team to help you build a strong business? This is covered… and a lot more! - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketin...

Lessons Learned From 100 Episodes!! | 7FMS100 29.11.2023

For our 100th episode, we reflected on what WE have learned over the past 100 episodes. What did we get wrong? What surprised us about music education, owning a school, or any of the common “struggles” that owners have? For our 100th episode… we look back so that we can ALL look forward to 2024 and beyond. - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and...

How to Increase Your School’s Profit Margin | 7FMS99 22.11.2023

Some schools have a spending problem and don’t even know it! In this “fun-sized” episode, we explore every music school’s 8 largest expenses… And give practical guidelines on what you should be spending in those categories. When you get these 8 categories under control, you will increase your profit margins by default. And that’s the difference between being strapped for cash… or being able to tak...

Employee Benefits at Your Music School | 7FMS98 15.11.2023

We made an episode about teacher pay, employee benefits, and how to save money on your taxes (even if you are a single-teacher studio)! - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school: growyourmusicstudio.com/free Get updates and FREE workshop invites from Nate and Daniel: growyourmusicstudio.com/7fms If the podcast has bee...

What It Takes to Build a “World Class” School (with Vera H.) | 7FMS97 08.11.2023

A few weeks ago, we had Vera on the show… and she gave a high-level overview of how she built her school to 1,000 students. In today’s episode, we had the time to dig deeper…  Vera describes how she attracts and keeps talented teachers, how they built a “world-class” recital hall that professionals use to make recordings, their detailed “positive-negative” system that describes families at th...

Child Safety at Your School (with Greg G.) | 7FMS96 01.11.2023

As school owners, we MUST take child safety seriously…  You do not want to say: “That could never happen at OUR studio.” In this episode, we brought back Greg Genter (owner of Piano Express) to talk about child safety. He shares the policies they have in place at the Piano Express’ locations in northern Virginia. This is a very practical episode and includes specific stories and examples to g...

How to Rapidly Complete Projects in Your Music Academy (w. Kyrsten R.) | 7FMS95 25.10.2023

Do you struggle to manage large projects in your studio? Do you struggle to delegate? Do you sometimes feel that you AVOID large projects… simply because they feel difficult to complete? If so, then you will want to listen to this episode all the way to the end… We invited Kyrsten back on to teach the complete project management system that we used in my music school, at Grow Your Music Studio , a...

Marketing Hacks, Flaky Students, and Studio Taxes | 7FMS94 18.10.2023

We answered your questions in this episode of the podcast… and covered a ton of topics in doing so! Market research, effective delegation, designing curriculum for your studio, dealing with demanding parents, how to lower your taxes… There’s so much to learn! - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school: growyourmusicstu...

Building a Music School to 1000+ Students (w. Vera H.) | 7FMS93 11.10.2023

Our podcast guest today built a school to over 1000+ students and wrote her own method… She shares lessons learned in today’s episode… don’t miss it! - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school: growyourmusicstudio.com/free Get updates and FREE workshop invites from Nate and Daniel: growyourmusicstudio.com/7fms If the p...

Building an Online Lessons Brand (w. Kaitlyn D.) | 7FMS92 04.10.2023

In today’s episode, we brought back Kaitlyn Davidson who has spent the last few years building an online lessons brand alongside her really successful local studio. In this interview, we talk about how to market online lessons, the differences between local vs online, how to use YouTube to get customers, and the advice she would give those who would like to live the “laptop lifestyle” as a music t...

How to Run Ads on Facebook to Get More Students for Your Music Lessons | 7FMS91 27.09.2023

We invited Elizabeth Gillette (a digital marketing specialist) to come on the show. For 50 minutes, I put her through an intense interrogation about getting results with Facebook ads in 2023. She reveals what campaign structures to use, what creative to use, what kinds of pictures and videos to use in your Facebook posts and ads, and we even talk about landing page design. If you are running ads o...

Coaching Your Students to Success (w. Mike Grande) | 7FMS90 20.09.2023

Whenever I meet a school owner that is getting unusual results in their school… I almost always find that they are doing something unusual to get those results! This is true of Mike Grande who owns several schools in New York and New Jersey. The secret to his success is the subject of his upcoming book titled From Teacher to Coach (And Why You Would NEVER Want to be a Teacher) . In this episode, w...

What’s Most Urgent in Your Music School? (w. Kyrsten R.) | 7FMS89 13.09.2023

“How do I know what to work on next in my music school?!?!?” There is so much competing for your attention and so many tasks to complete. It can be difficult to know what’s best next!!! In this episode, we invited Kyrsten, who manages Grow Your Music Studio ’s projects, to come on the podcast. Kyrsten gives a lot of great ideas on how to choose projects, how to delegate, and what it takes to do it...

Health and Wellness as a Music School Owner | 7FMS88 06.09.2023

We took a break from talking about business, retention, marketing, and hiring… To talk about living a balanced, healthy life as a school owner. - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school: growyourmusicstudio.com/free Get updates and FREE workshop invites from Nate and Daniel: growyourmusicstudio.com/7fms If the podcast...

Growing Before You Feel Ready (w. Kaitlyn D.) | 7FMS87 30.08.2023

How do you know when to make a decision? When is the right time to grow or to act? When should you rely on information… and when should you trust your gut? Join me as I interview Kaitlyn, who has grown a 400 student school in downtown Atlanta. Lots to learn… - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school: growyourmusicstud...

Studio Owners: Are You Discouraged in Your Career? | 7FMS86 23.08.2023

Do parents even care about music lessons anymore? Why don’t they enforce practice at home? And… more importantly…. Are you discouraged by these thoughts or thoughts similar to these? In today’s episode, we talk about how to handle discouragement in your career and studio… Don’t miss this one. - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in y...

How Much Should Your School Spend on Marketing? | 7FMS85 16.08.2023

In this episode, I give a marketing plan for studios at various marketing budget levels. So, if you ever wondered how much you should spend on marketing… What you should do with the money… And what marketing techniques you should use… - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school: growyourmusicstudio.com/free Get updates...

Stop Wasting Your Time in Meetings! | 7FMS84 09.08.2023

In today’s episode, we give a plan for efficient meetings and effective delegation… So you can manage your team as efficiently as possible. If you like having a plan, a template, a proven way to do things… - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school: growyourmusicstudio.com/free Get updates and FREE workshop invites fro...

Sloppy Leadership, Music School Growth, and Smart KPIs | 7FMS83 02.08.2023

Over the years, I’ve heard a phrase over and over again… “I wish there was just a step-by-step guide to building my music studio.” “I just want someone to tell me what to do.” Good news… there’s a book that gives you a “tactical guide to building a company.” It’s short, it’s sweet… and it’s the topic of today’s episode. This is our “book report” on THE GREAT CEO WITHIN by Matt Mochary… And how it...

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