Daniel Patterson & Nate Shaw

7-Figure Music School

7-Figure Music School is a podcast for music school owners who want to create fantastic margins, hire energetic teachers, and leverage their team's time and talent to create a sustainable business. Join hosts Daniel Patterson, Founder & CEO of Grow Your Music Studio, and Nate Shaw, Co-founder & CEO of Brooklyn Music Factory, as you create YOUR 7-figure music school.

Author

Daniel Patterson & Nate Shaw

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Education

Podcast website

7fms.captivate.fm

Latest episode

Dec 17, 2025

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Episodes

Retention Isn’t Tactics | 7FMS182 17.12.2025

Most owners think retention is a reward for doing other things well. But it’s not. Retention is a strategy—and it might be the most important one you have. - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school: growyourmusicstudio.com/free Get updates and FREE workshop invites from Nate and Daniel: growyourmusicstudio.com/7fms If...

Your School’s Hidden Operating System | 7FMS181 10.12.2025

Most school owners think of culture as a vibe… a feeling… a thing you “kinda have.” But culture is actually the operating system of your business. It's what makes people care or quit. Before you chase new systems or bigger goals, make sure your business actually has the backbone to carry them. In this episode, Daniel and Nate break down why culture is essential for scale, retention, and delegation...

The Marketing Myth: Why “More Leads” Isn’t the Answer | 7FMS180 03.12.2025

It’s tempting to believe that more inquiries = less stress. This belief is a trap. It’s too simple by half. The truth is far more nuanced and we give updated marketing advice that you can use as you head into 2026. - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school: growyourmusicstudio.com/free Get updates and FREE workshop in...

Do Less, But Better | 7FMS179 08.10.2025

If you’ve ever thought: “I just need to add more programs” “There aren’t enough students for my current offer” “We’re saying yes to everything… and still not growing” Then I think this episode might change how you see your entire business. - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school: growyourmusicstudio.com/free Get upd...

Are You Delegating Correctly? | 7FMS178 01.10.2025

In this episode, Daniel and Nate break down the first myth in their new series on growing a 7-figure music school: “If I delegate, I’m leading.” Spoiler : That’s false. Most owners don’t delegate—they abdicate. And that keeps them stuck in chaos, stress, and 50-hour weeks. - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school: gr...

Keys to Keeping Students After Their 1st Lesson | 7FMS177 10.09.2025

This week, Daniel and Nate reveal how a strong onboarding system can dramatically improve your retention, parent buy-in, student satisfaction, and team culture. You’ll learn the three onboarding goals every school should aim for. If you want new families to engage more quickly, stick around longer, and become raving fans… this episode is your blueprint. - - - - - Check out our free trainings and r...

Why Do Students Ghost You After Trial Lessons? | 7FMS176 03.09.2025

Why do so many leads disappear after showing interest in your school?  It’s easy to blame their busy schedules… but in this episode, Daniel and Nate argue that the root cause is in two avoidable problems that music school owners create for themselves. - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school: growyourmusicstudio...

How to Solve the “Practice Problem” In Your Music School | 7FMS175 13.08.2025

In this episode, Daniel and Nate explore how to reframe practice—not as a personal failing of students or parents, but as a marketing, retention, and curriculum problem. You’ll hear how shifting your school’s message, delivery method, and parent communication can make “home practice” feel joyful and effortless. - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons...

How to Grow a Special Music Program in Your School (w. Kate and Rebecca) | 7FMS174 06.08.2025

This week, we go behind the scenes and in-depth with the founders of Monkey Bar Music to unpack how they’ve grown a 170-student program— without a storefront . You’ll hear how they said no to distractions, trusted their instincts, built curriculum from scratch, and used one Facebook video to ignite word-of-mouth and revenue. - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing,...

Books That Shaped Our Business | 7FMS173 30.07.2025

If you’re going to take the time to read a business book, you want to make sure that it’s worth the time you spend to read it. That’s why we made another episode about books that shaped the way we think about and do business. - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school: growyourmusicstudio.com/free Get updates and FREE...

How Two Sisters Grew an Outdoors Babies & Toddlers Music Program | 7FMS172 02.07.2025

This is a special interview. These two young women found a way to grow a massive music program in Los Angeles… with no expensive commercial rent. Check this out to be inspired by their creativity and ingenuity! - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school: growyourmusicstudio.com/free Get updates and FREE workshop invite...

Celebration, Culture, and Your Music School | 7FMS171 25.06.2025

If your team is aligned but you’re not seeing them step up… celebration might be the missing piece. In the final episode of our culture series, Daniel and Nate unpack the last pillar of a strong studio culture: celebrating your team. - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school: growyourmusicstudio.com/free Get updates a...

How To Build Culture in Your Music School | 7FMS170 11.06.2025

Over the past few weeks, we have released episodes on the importance of culture in your school. Why? Because culture impacts EVERYTHING that makes your school work. It impacts your marketing, your retention, your hiring, your team… and thus, your results. How do you continually build culture in your school then? How do you reinforce your purpose and values? This is the episode you’ve been waiting...

Build a Music School Team That You Can Trust | 7FMS169 04.06.2025

This week, Daniel and Nate tackle one of the most misunderstood culture concepts in multi-teacher studios: employee ownership. If you’re tired of reminding your staff to respond to emails, join meetings, or take initiative… this episode gives you the mindset, structure, and practical tools to shift that. - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and u...

Symbols, Rituals, Stories: The Real Culture Builders | 7FMS168 28.05.2025

If your culture “lives” on a poster, it’s probably dead. In this week’s podcast, we show you: Why most “culture-building” flops in a music school What to do when you feel like your school has no culture How to use symbols, rituals, and stories to show your’s school culture in every detail The secret? It’s not about what you do—it’s why you do it. - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resource...

Why Does Your Music School Even Exist? | 7FMS167 21.05.2025

Why does your music school even exist? Until you answer that question… every aspect of running your school is going to feel like an uphill battle: Hiring. Marketing. Retention. Operations. Delegation. In this episode, Daniel and Nate explain how to write a clear purpose statement for your school that does way more than sound good on a website.  It attracts the right families, helps your team...

Lead Your School Without Micromanaging | 7FMS166 14.05.2025

In this episode, Daniel and Nate break down the secret weapon of great school culture: Clear core values and decision-making guidelines.  Whether you're a solo teacher or leading a big team, defining your values helps everyone move in the same direction… and frees you up to lead instead of micro-manage. - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, a...

Six Keys to Creating a Magnetic Music School Culture | 7FMS165 07.05.2025

In this episode, Nate and Daniel define what culture actually is (and isn’t), explain why it’s the most important thing most owners ignore, and share a short exercise you can do today to see where your company culture stands. This series is for owners who want a team that solves problems instead of creating them… and a studio where people love coming to work. - - - - - Check out our free trainings...

Getting Dozens of Leads with In-School Marketing (w. Kevin J.) | 7FMS164 30.04.2025

What if your next 20 leads didn’t come from ads… but a live concert at a local elementary school? Kevin from @jamtothebeatmusic figured out how to turn school assemblies into a student-generating machine. 🎸 Real band. 🎟 Prize giveaways. 📣 Hype from 300+ kids. And a system that gets 10–30% of students to sign up for a trial. New podcast episode out now 🎧 Watch, take notes, steal the idea - - - -...

Workaholism vs. Burnout: The Emotional Cost of Building a School | 7FMS163 23.04.2025

This week, Daniel and Nate open up about a topic that affects nearly every school owner at some point… What’s the difference between workaholism and burnout—and what do you do when you feel like you’re slipping into either one? - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school: growyourmusicstudio.com/free Get updates and FRE...

Music School Money Habits (So You Don’t Run Out of Ca$h) | 7FMS162 16.04.2025

This week, we’re breaking down the financial habits that help a school owner stay profitable and sane. It’s not about becoming an accountant. It’s about creating a rhythm of review that brings you peace of mind… - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school: growyourmusicstudio.com/free Get updates and FREE workshop invit...

Music School Money Problems - Solved! | 7FMS161 09.04.2025

Most school owners avoid budgeting because they think it’s complicated. It’s not. It’s just unfamiliar. But once you get this right, your business (and your peace of mind) will change forever. In this episode, we give you a very simple checklist of actions to do and data to collect to build your first simple budget for your school. - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school mar...

Building a Massive Preschool Program in Your School (w. Jessica Hanson) | 7FMS160 02.04.2025

In this episode, Jessica Hanson reveals how she built a 250-student preschool program inside her 450-student music school— plus how to hire great preschool teachers. - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school: growyourmusicstudio.com/free Get updates and FREE workshop invites from Nate and Daniel: growyourmusicstudio.c...

How to Choose Camps, Programs, and Curriculums for Your Music School | 7FMS159 26.03.2025

Every year, music school owners wrestle with the same big question: What curriculum should I use? There are more options than ever—traditional books, digital programs, custom-built systems, apps, programs you can license... More than you could ever use in a lifetime. How do you choose?!?!? - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your...

Should You Build Your Own Curriculum or Programs? | 7FMS158 19.03.2025

Ever thought about creating your own curriculum?  Do you have a program that you’ve created for your school that you’ve thought about selling or licensing to other schools? In this episode, we pull back the curtain on what it actually takes to develop a custom curriculum—and how to promote it to other teachers and schools. - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketi...

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