Daniel Patterson & Nate Shaw

7-Figure Music School

7-Figure Music School is a podcast for music school owners who want to create fantastic margins, hire energetic teachers, and leverage their team's time and talent to create a sustainable business. Join hosts Daniel Patterson, Founder & CEO of Grow Your Music Studio, and Nate Shaw, Co-founder & CEO of Brooklyn Music Factory, as you create YOUR 7-figure music school.

Author

Daniel Patterson & Nate Shaw

Category

Education

Podcast website

7fms.captivate.fm

Latest episode

Dec 17, 2025

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Episodes

Focus, New Products, and Your Music School | 7FMS157 12.03.2025

Chasing every idea can wreck your business.  The wrong idea at the wrong time? It steals your energy, derails your focus, and leaves your core business struggling. In this episode, we break down a framework for assessing new business ideas before you invest time and money.  - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music...

How Jessica Grew to 450 Students in a Tiny Town (w/ J. Hanson) | 7FMS156 05.03.2025

In this episode, we sit down with Jessica Hanson, owner of Take Note Studio, to unpack how she built a 450-student school in a small, blue-collar Midwestern town—and what you can learn from her success. - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school: growyourmusicstudio.com/free Get updates and FREE workshop invites from N...

How to Onboard and Train Your Music Teachers | 7FMS155 26.02.2025

Hiring teachers is easy. Keeping great teachers? That’s where most music school owners struggle. If you’ve ever had a teacher leave after a year (or less), if you’re constantly answering the same questions, or if your staff just doesn’t seem fully plugged in—this episode is for you. - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music...

Advanced A.I. Strategies for Your Music School (Part 2) | 7FMS154 19.02.2025

In this episode, we share how we’re doing it, and we specifically chose strategies and insights that will help music school owners …including: ✅ Replacing a high-level employee without losing productivity ✅ Creating an AI-powered knowledge base for staff & teachers ✅ Automating marketing and social media content ✅ Pulling insights from client surveys and team meetings ✅ Troubleshooting te...

A.I. and Your Music School (Part 1) | 7FMS153 12.02.2025

In this series on A.I…. we’re going to talk about what we have learned over the past two years and how we’re helping our clients build a more efficient business with A.I. This isn’t just about tools and hacks… this is about being on the front edge of a cultural shift that could give you a massive competitive advantage as a small business owner. - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources...

Specialized Teachers = Stronger School | 7FMS152 05.02.2025

“How do I manage teachers with totally different specialties?” In this episode, we went deep into how to build a team with teachers that specialize in certain types of teaching, different age groups, etc. We also tackled an overlooked truth: Most schools struggle with hiring because they don’t have a clear hiring system. - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, gro...

Keeping Your Summer Music Camp Staff Happy (w. Peira from BMF) | 7FMS151 29.01.2025

In this week’s podcast episode, Daniel and Nate are joined by Piera, co-owner of Brooklyn Music Factory, who shares the real X-factor behind their thriving summer camps. Here’s what we cover: Why teacher morale will make or break your studio’s success Defining the “energy” required for camp vs. regular lessons Signs your staff is burning out (catch it before it happens) Peira’s process for keeping...

How to Get Your Families to Leave Reviews for Your Music School | 7FMS150 22.01.2025

In today’s episode, Daniel and Nate discuss the year-long campaign that helped Brooklyn Music Factory soar past their competitors with 101 Google reviews… making BMF the most-reviewed music school in ALL of New York City (not just Brooklyn). - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school: growyourmusicstudio.com/free Get u...

Search Marketing for Music Schools (What’s New?) | 7FMS149 15.01.2025

Is your music school showing up where it matters most? In this first episode of the year, Daniel and Nate unpack what’s changed in search marketing, why it matters for your music school, and how to stay ahead of the curve in 2025. - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school: growyourmusicstudio.com/free Get updates and...

Best Practices for Music School Recitals | 7FMS148 18.12.2024

In our final episode of 2024, we invited a long-time friend and frequent guest of the show back on the pod. We sat down with Greg from Piano Express to unpack his systems for running recitals in a big music school. How do you handle a recital with hundreds of students? - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school: growyo...

Powerful Communication Strategies for Your School | 7FMS147 11.12.2024

In this episode, we give a practical and emotional framework for communicating with parents. How to be bold, confident, and clear… And to lead with power! - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school: growyourmusicstudio.com/free Get updates and FREE workshop invites from Nate and Daniel: growyourmusicstudio.com/7fms If...

Team Vacation Days and Studio Quality | 7FMS146 04.12.2024

“How do you handle time off requests from your team?” This was a question that one of our listeners sent in to us. Nate and I took some time to really explore this simple question in depth. - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school: growyourmusicstudio.com/free Get updates and FREE workshop invites from Nate and Danie...

Year-Round Enrollment Strategy and Calendar | 7FMS145 27.11.2024

If you’ve ever wondered how to keep your studio humming year-round - without scrambling to rebuild every fall - this episode is for you. - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school: growyourmusicstudio.com/free Get updates and FREE workshop invites from Nate and Daniel: growyourmusicstudio.com/7fms If the podcast has be...

Micromanaging, Delegation, and the Dark Side of Scaling Your Music School | 7FMS144 30.10.2024

One of the cliches of business ownership is that “owners don’t like to delegate.” Yet - in every cliche there is truth… and that’s what we wanted to explore in this episode on micromanagement, delegation, trusting team, and the dark side of scaling your music school. - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school: growyour...

Keeping Your Music School’s Teachers | 7FMS143 23.10.2024

In this episode, Daniel and Nate tackle a tough question: how do you keep great teachers from leaving for your competitors—without pricing yourself out of the market? It’s a dilemma many school owners face. You invest in training, build strong systems, offer excellent client service, and yet, teachers still leave. But is it just about the money, or is there something deeper at play? - - - - - Chec...

Delegating Sales in Your Music School | 7FMS142 16.10.2024

Nate shares his personal journey from handling every single sales call at Brooklyn Music Factory to building a successful sales team. If you’ve been stuck doing it all yourself or aren’t sure how to trust someone else with sales, this episode is your roadmap for scaling without losing your mind.  - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and usin...

How to Improve Your Music School’s Sales Conversion Rate | 7FMS141 09.10.2024

In today’s episode, Daniel and Nate tackle a critical (but often overlooked) part of the sales process: the follow-up.  Nate walks us through the system that Brooklyn Music Factory uses to ensure they don’t miss out on those 81% of leads that just need a little more nurturing.  Plus, Daniel shares practical tips on building the habits and tools you need to track and close more sales. Thi...

Taming the Chaos in Your Music School Business… And the Rest of Your Life, Too! | 7FMS140 02.10.2024

In today’s episode, Nate and Daniel pull back the curtain on the most important software tool we use. It’s how we organize EVERYTHING in our lives… and it could really help you, too! There’s a lot to learn here… especially if you feel overwhelmed or aren’t entirely sure how to prioritize everything in your life and business. - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing,...

A Crisis Almost Killed Our Music School! (w. Alyssa O'Toole) | 7FMS139 25.09.2024

What happens when something unpredictable happens in your business? Not just a small challenge you have to overcome… But a legitimate threat to the continued existence of your business. In this episode, Daniel, Nate, and Alyssa reminisce about a time in their business life where a “crisis” threatened their business. - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group le...

Results of a 1.5 Year Teacher Training Experiment | 7FMS138 18.09.2024

A year and a half ago, Nate and I made an unusual podcast episode. It wasn’t about something that we learned “on the job”… It was about an experiment that Nate was running. Now… just over 80 episodes later… Nate is back to report the good, the bad, and the ugly about the long-term effects of these changes. Click below to listen to the episode or watch on YouTube. - - - - - Check out our free train...

Book Blasts and How to Promote Special Programs in Your School | 7FMS137 11.09.2024

In today’s episode, we unpack a special program called a BOOK BLAST that Daniel promoted and sold out throughout the year. The program was designed to help “blast” through most or ALL of their current method book in a week. Daniel explains how it works, how he promoted it, and the impact it had on his studio’s revenue and retention. - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school ma...

Outgrowing Your Location and Moving to a New School (w. Kaitlyn Davidson) | 7FMS136 04.09.2024

We invited Kaitlyn Davidson back on the podcast to share about her outgrowing her school’s space… and what it felt like to move to a new one! In this episode, we interview Kaitlyn about the entire process… How she looked for a space How she selected her space Fears and challenges she experienced How she told her team How it impacted her students and families Moving and setup experience Lessons lea...

Laying Down the Law With Your Team! | 7FMS135 28.08.2024

In my work with school owners, not a week goes by that I’m not doing “owner therapy” with at least one of my clients… and it’s almost always around a troublesome team member. These situations are never pretty: A team member that has gone rogue Toxicity between team members or a team member and the owner Teachers stealing students Teachers or staff members not following company policies Unreasonabl...

Who to Hire (In Order) When Scaling Up Your School | 7FMS134 21.08.2024

Over the past few years, we have received this question over and over: “What is the right order to hire people for my school? Who should I hire first?” Don’t know why we waited so long… but we finally did it! And - the discussion between Nate and Daniel about this will help you to not only understand the WHAT of the hiring order… but also the WHY…  So that you can make a good decision about t...

21-Day Hiring Method to Build Better Teams | 7FMS133 14.08.2024

Is it possible to build a process into your hiring and onboarding system to prevent getting stuck with a bad hire? The answer is YES. In today’s episode, Daniel details a system that he has been using for hiring since 2017. - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school: growyourmusicstudio.com/free Get updates and FREE wo...

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