What If Project

I recorded this episode back in January and am releasing it now - many, many months later. Why? It challenged me so much that before I let others in on it, I had to let the words and ideas and thoughts really permeate into my own being. I recorded many conversations in 2025, but this is one of my top 2 or 3 favorites. Julia is Professor Emerita of Biblical Studies at Lancaster Theological Seminary...

This week we are talking to Eric Reitan. When I was a kid my teachers told me that when I got to heaven I would celebrate and be happy even if my friends and family were burning in hell - say WHAT?! Were you taught that too? Join Eric and I as we talk about his book, "Troubled Paradise: Limited Salvation and the Problem of Heavenly Grief". Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: ERIC REITAN: https://www.instagram.com/...

This week we are talking to my friend Lisa Zega. Lisa is a long time listener of the podcast, a grief educator, life coach, and host of the "Grief Heals" podcast. In this episode we talk about life and spirituality and grief and how embracing our grief can lead to radical life change. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: LISA ZEGA: https://legityou.com/ GRIEF HEALS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/grief-heals...

Friends, this week we sit down with Dana Hicks to talk about his latest book, "The Quest for Thin Places: How to Find Spirituality After Deconstruction". We talk about our spiritual journeys, learning to dance in the liminal places, and exploring new ways to be in the world. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: DANA HICKS: https://www.danahicks.blog/ THE QUEST FOR THIN PLACES: https://www.amazon.com/Quest-Thin-Plac...

This week we are talking to Michelle Felice about her book "Throw Another Pebble On The Pile". She tells us about her leadership journey in the church and what it's looking like for her to continue to learn to love in the midst of the divisive times we're in. Pour a cup of coffee and join us at her table - this is a good one. SHOW NOTES: MICHELLE FELICE: https://www.throwanotherpebble.com/ THROW A...

This week we're talking to Brandon Andress about his book, "Deep Calls to Deep". We talk about navigating these divisive times with a mindset of love and what it looks like to hold our values differently than the way the world might expect us to. This one will challenge you! Enjoy. SHOW NOTES: BRANDON ANDRESS: https://www.brandonandress.com/ DEEP CALLS TO DEEP: https://www.amazon.com/Deep-Calls-Br...

This week we're talking to Kurt Gray about his book, "Outraged: Why We Fight About Morality and Politics and How to Find Common Ground". We talk about finding the humanity in all people, how we often misinterpret the intentions of "the other side" ... and so much more. If you're trying to find a different way to exist in these divisive moments, this one will challenge you and change you. Enjoy! SH...

This week we are talking to my friend and long time listener of the podcast, Stacy Singledecker. Stacy joined me to share a bit about her faith journey and how her thoughts about God have evolved over the years. If you find yourself in a place where your own thoughts about God are expanding beyond the box you were raised - Stacy's story will be medicine for your soul. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: STACY SING...

This week we are talking to Jon Paul Sydnor about his book "The Great Open Dance". We explore the idea of "progressive theology" being a "theology of progress" and what it looks like to move foward in a world that is spinning it's wheels in the muds of division, judgement, hatred, etc. Looking for some hope in these divided times? This one will help! SHOW NOTES: JON PAUL SYDNOR: https://jonpaulsyd...

This week Carl McColman is back on the show to talk to us about his journey with the Bible and what it means to read the Bible and engage with it's many stories like a Mystic. If your relationship with the Bible is tangled and complicated, this will help! SHOW NOTES: CARL MCCOLMAN: https://www.anamchara.com/?fbclid=IwY2xjawKcOq1leHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETE5OUJ0dDBvdk5vMU5TY0VUAR6L-1_SeZMviPugSo0_H_org...

This week we're talking to Brendan Barca who co-wrote a book with his wife called, "The Daily Buddhist" where over the course of 366 days they take us into the heart of Buddhism and how it can help us live a more happy, free, mindful life. Looking for a book to help you jumpstart your days with some fresh perspective? Go get it! SHOW NOTES: BRENDAN BARCA: https://brendanbarca.com THE DAILY BUDDHIS...

Hello friends, this is our SECOND check in - a time of flipping on the mic and catching up with you, sharing a bit of what's going on in my life. And I'd love to hear what's going on in yours, email me at whatifproject.net@gmail.com - I will answer! Here are some links, peace! ... MY BOOK: https://www.amazon.com/Emerging-Rubble-Stories-Shattered-Relationships/dp/B0C7T5TJD4/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2B051GGV...

This week we're talking to Thomas Oord and Chad Bahl about Amipotence (ami ... who?!) and the power of love in a divided world. This one is a game-changer - enjoy! SHOW NOTES: THOMAS OORD: https://thomasjayoord.com CHAD BAHL: https://www.facebook.com/chad.bahl AMIPOTENCE: https://www.amazon.com/Amipotence-Support-Criticism-Expansion-Application/dp/1958670839/ref=sr_1_2?crid=2YP736L9M14Y3&dib=e...

This week we are talking to Annie B. Jones about her amazing book, "Ordinary Time". We talk about staying put in a world that is always on the move - staying in friendship, staying true to ourselves, staying true to our faith, and so much more. If you're looking for some fresh perspective for your journey - Annie has you covered. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: ANNIE B. JONES: https://anniebjoneswrites.com/pod...

This week we are talking to John A. Powell about his book, "The Power of Bridging". We talk about unity and what it looks like to create a world (in these very divisive times!) where everyone belongs. This one will challenge you and (hopefully!) inspire you. Enjoy, and much love! SHOW NOTES: JOHN A. POWELL: https://www.johnapowell.org THE POWER OF BRIDGING: https://www.amazon.com/Power-Bridging-Bu...

This week we're talking to Amie McNee about her new book, "We Need Your Art". Everyone makes art, everyone is creative - and whatever creative juices you have bubbling up in you? The world needs it. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: AMIE MCNEE: https://www.amiemcnee.com WE NEED YOUR ART: https://www.amazon.com/We-Need-Your-Art-Something/dp/0593833007/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1CFIWK5XC5GH8&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.4HDus56qbIU...

This week we are talking to Dr. Bruce Epperly about his journey with Jesus and his experience as a Pastor who is also Reiki Master. This is a good one - ENJOY! SHOW NOTES: BRUCE EPPERLY: https://www.drbruceepperly.com BRUCE'S BOOKS: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Bruce-G.-Epperly/author/B08CZZ94L9?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&qid=1743529234&sr=8-1&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnable...

Friends, starting next week I'm tweaking something on the podcast that will lead to an experiment with these bi-monthly check ins. In this check in I talk about these check ins, Jordan's upcoming Summer break, art, Patreon, and an idea I'm kicking around for 2026. 2026? What? Yes, I think far in advance. HA! Check it out, tell me what you think. Much love. This week we are talking to John A. Powel...

This week we talk to Felicia Murrell about her book, "AND: The Restorative Power of Love in an Either/Or World" and let me tell you - this is the most important conversation I've EVER had on the podcast. 333 episodes in and this one stands above the others in terms of thougths that helped shape me, mold me, comfort me, challenge me, and make me feel less alone and less crazy. Felicia is doing amaz...

This week we're talking to Blair Coyle. Blair is a singer and songwriter who creates beautiful music that is birthed out of his faith deconstruction / evolution. Today he talks to us about his music, his journey, and how his understanding of God and faith have evolved. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: BLAIR COYLE: https://www.blaircoylemusic.com APOSTASY ANTHEMS: https://music.apple.com/us/album/apostasy-anthem...

Is it possible to continue to find value in the Bible when you no longer see the Bible as the inerrant, perfect, almighty Word of God? Is it possible for the Bible to continue to speak into our lives post-Evangelicalism? Is it possible for the Bible to be MORE than you ever imagined it could be? This week we talk to Liz Charlotte Grant about her amazing book, "Knock at the Sky". Enjoy! SHOW NOTES:...

This week we're talking to Larry Jordan about his book, "THE WAY" and wondering how the world might change if we allowed our beliefs to rest in our open palms instead of our closed fists ... if we asked more questions of those who see things differently instead of making more declarations about how we're right and they're wrong. This one will stretch you - enjoy! SHOW NOTES: LARRY JORDAN: https://...

This week Neil Douglas-Klotz is back on the show to talk about his new book, "The Aramaic Jesus Book of Days". We talk about the person and teachings of Jesus and how when looked at through Jesus' native Aramaic tongue - it's IMPOSSIBLE to put it all into a nice, neat, systematic box. This is a good one - enjoy and go grab the book! SHOW NOTES: NEIL DOUGLAS-KLOTZ: https://abwoon.org THE ARAMAIC JE...

This week we welcome Justin Scoggins who talks to us about his book, "Inking Christ" - we talk tattoos, art, creativity, and choosing to live creatively different during these divisive moments in our world. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: JUSTIN SCOGGINS: https://www.eidochristos.com INKING CHRIST: https://www.amazon.com/Inking-Christ-Theological-Approach-Tattoos/dp/1964252105/ref=sr_1_1?crid=MNEWWQVU72IS&...

This week we're talking to Dr. James Danaher about his newest book, "A Deeper Life". We talk about Jesus, the Gospel, and how the message of the Gospel isn't about becoming more righteous, but remembering and awakening to who we have always been. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: JAMES DANAHER: https://www.amazon.com/stores/James-P.-Danaher/author/B001JS5LRY?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&qid=1738764267&sr=8-1&am...