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ZKVMs vs. ZK Circuits: A Spicy Debate 19.09.2024 58:39
Today, we get to moderate a debate that’s been brewing in the ZK-space: ZKVMs or custom ZK circuits? ZKVMs have been pivotal in getting projects up and running quickly. They lower technical barriers by making zero-knowledge proofs accessible to more developers. But as applications mature, there’s a growing question: do you stick with the flexibility of ZKVMs, or do you shift toward building custom...
The Future of Bitcoin with Jeff Garzik 18.09.2024 1:13:34
After working with Satoshi in the early years, and almost 15 years of crypto experience, legend Jeff Garzik shares his story in this exclusive interview. Recently, we did an educational deep dive into several teams working on extending Bitcoin with innovative mechanism designs and Bitcoin L2s on Bitcoin and Beyond. This conversation is a phenomenal next episode in that series. Today, Hemi is attem...
The Based Rollup Stack with Spire Labs 17.09.2024 47:55
Today, we're unraveling the concept of "based rollups" with The Based Stack from Spire Labs. Spire's framework for building "based appchains" is designed to utilize Ethereum's base layer while offering a whole new level of flexibility and control. At the heart of Spire's offering is the idea of customizable composability. They've developed a way for app deve...
Decentralized AI Panel 16.09.2024 56:51
Decentralized AI Panel with: Nick Emmons from Allora Labs Ram from Open Ledger Nav from Ungate AI Vargs from 0G Labs Igor from Rivalz Network Website: https://therollup.co/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd.. Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco Follow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollup Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/...
The Celestia Roadmap with Nick White 14.09.2024 1:02:00
1GB blocks are coming. Since November last year, 20 rollups have launched according to Celenium, the Celestia block explorer and those rollups have since published over 75GB of data. Following the Lemongrass upgrade, Celestia will aim to execute the roadmap across three different core tracks with the broader vision of enabling end-user verifiability to the fullest extent possible. 1. Abundant Bloc...
Where Is The Best Place To Deploy Apps Today? 13.09.2024 53:50
Where Is The Best Place To Deploy Apps Today with: Arjun from LiFi Protocol Terry from Eclipse Max Power from LayerZero Jim from Catalyst Website: https://therollup.co/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd.. Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco Follow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollup Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyy...
Can IBC Become The Interoperability Standard For L2s? With Polymer 12.09.2024 24:45
For our final chain abstraction focused podcast in NYC, we are talking about IBC. IBC is well known as the interoperability standard for the Cosmos ecosystem. Its by far the most lindy interoperability protocol, which explains Bo's "infatuation" with IBC as a whole. Polymer has been working on interoperability since 2021, and their journey has evolved to bring them into the Ethereum...
Why Solving Is The Biggest Onchain Opportunity In Crypto with Catalyst 11.09.2024 34:21
This was probably the most alpha packed episode of the entire NYC content series. Jim literally spilled a massive, yet completely unknown opportunity in the world of onchain finance right now. Throughout this episode, we’re unpacking Catalyst’s take on how solvers have evolved, the critical role they play in onchain interoperability, and what it all means for builders, traders, and enthusiasts ali...
Based Rollups AMA with Ceciliaz of Gwyneth Taiko and mteam of Spire Labs. 11.09.2024 42:15
Based Rollups AMA with Ceciliaz of Gwyneth Taiko and mteam of Spire Labs.
How Monad is Breaking The Barriers Of Scaling Blockchains 10.09.2024 29:35
Monad is one of the projects which teams look at now and wonder how they did such an impeccable job of growing their community, pre-product. The different community houses, the exclusivity of their discord, and the memetic energy is certainly something to study (along with the tech, of course). So, that's exactly what we did with Keone Hon, CEO of Monad, in NYC a few weeks ago. We asked him ho...
The Interwoven Appchain Thesis with Initia 09.09.2024 31:26
If you've been here on the channel for sometime, you know we have been large proponents of the application specific designs. We have been vocal about the customizability benefits of appchains, amidst other key advantages like sovereignty and more control over blockspace. However, one of the largest pushbacks we've received (and thought through) is around the interoperability issues of a wo...
The Ethereum Roadmap w Justin Drake 07.09.2024 1:14:57
The future of Ethereum is in our hands. Undeniably, the community has a major decisions to make which will shape the endgame of Ethereum. Today’s piece dives into the important discussion on synchronous composability and shared sequencing, a topic that sits at the heart of Ethereum's scaling journey. We caught up with Justin Drake, who shared his views on the current state of rollups, the chal...
Why No One Wants To Be A Shared Sequencer Anymore 06.09.2024 41:22
A few weeks back, Andy put out a tweet saying "no one wants to be branded as a shared sequencer anymore" and it triggered quite a few people. The "loss of revenue" is the biggest, ongoing misconception of why shared sequencing isn't the best option for rollups. Today were tackling that notion head on with Noah Pravecek from NodeKit and their shift from shared sequencing to...
Is AggLayer The Solution To The Modular Fragmentation Problem? 05.09.2024 38:25
In today’s piece, we’re taking a close look at one of the latest innovations in the modular ecosystem: AggLayer, the new interoperability layer stemming from the Polygon team. As Ethereum scaling solutions continue to evolve, AggLayer offers a new approach to making cross-chain interactions smoother, more secure, and more scalable. But, is this the solution we are looking for? Is AggLayer competit...
What Are The Ideological & Product Implications of A Chain Abstracted Future? 04.09.2024 42:32
Joins us for a discussion about the Ideological & product implications of a chain abstracted future with: Asad Ahmed from Okto Dave from Particle Network Arjun from Jumper Exchange Griffin Dunaif from Halliday Consensus128 from Lava Network Website: https://therollup.co/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd.. Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast Follow us on X: https://www....
How MegaETH enables real-time apps on Ethereum 04.09.2024 34:26
One of the core ideas that we shared in this podcast and throughout the NYC sessions was creating more optimizations for Ethereum L2s which currently don't exist today. It feels like we've settled in to the current standards of 2 second block times and a standard of TPS which has been normal. MegaETH is trying to flip this model on its head. Centralized block production via a beefy sequenc...
Are Based Rollups The Solution To Ethereum's Long-Term Value Capture? 03.09.2024 1:14:14
Based rollups are a really interesting design because they offer MEV to the L1 (which acts as the sequencer) rather than accruing the value to the rollup operator. This has been the biggest argument for L2s being parasitic to the L1. We think based rollups change that for the better. The core issue still remains, however: Current rollups likely will not opt-in to based designs because they will lo...
How To Build A Cult-Like Community in Crypto with XION 03.09.2024 30:10
This was one of the wildest interviews we've ever done. From the attire of our guest, to the level of entertainment, technical detail, and insights on community building -- this is one of those conversations that has everything. We originally sought out to ask Burnt about his strategies of growing his community (cult), how XION has nailed down collaborations with some of the world's larges...
Where Is The Demand for Data Availability? With EigenDA 02.09.2024 30:55
Today, we’re diving into a topic that's crucial for the future of Ethereum and the broader modular ecosystem: Data Availability. Recently, there's been chatter on X about DA being commoditized to zero and the only value accrual in the modular stack being in execution. Is this true? Where is the current demand for DA? Are modular DA providers competing with Ethereum? In our latest conversat...
ZKVMs and Proof Verification 30.08.2024 53:26
Join us for a discussion about ZKVMs and Proof Verification with ZKVProtocol, RiscZero, ProjectZKM and Aligned Layer. Website: https://therollup.co/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd.. Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco Follow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollup Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandy Join our TG gr...
Why SolverFi Is The Next Big Trend In Crypto 29.08.2024 1:15:20
We've been studying the chain abstraction stack pretty heavily recently. Over the last few months, we've developed a thesis that our optimal outcome in the more immediate future is to have a frontend UX powered by a wallet abstraction provider which allows for all your crypto balances across all chains to be aggregated in one place. Then, when you interact across various different dApps in...
What is a ZK coprocessor and what onchain apps do they enable? 28.08.2024 43:36
Join us for a discussion about ZK coprocessor and what onchain apps do they enable. Participants: Ismael Hishon-Rezaizadeh from Lagrange Mo from Brevis Felipe Argento from Cartesi Website: https://therollup.co/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd.. Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco Follow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollu...
How To Navigate The Volatile Crypto Markets 28.08.2024 53:00
A bit of a different vibe from our typical technical content as we dive into the perspective of one of the most well known crypto funds, built by Arthur Hayes, ex-CEO of BitMEX. If you've been in the space for a while, you know that market swings are extremely frequent and can be quite volatile. The key to thriving in this environment isn’t about trying to predict the next big move but about u...
DeFi on High TPS Modular Appchains 23.08.2024 48:41
Join us for a discussion about DeFi on High TPS Modular Appchains with Simon Jones of Reya and Cedo Salah of StorkOracle. Website: https://therollup.co/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd.. Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco Follow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollup Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandy Join our T...
A Friendly Debate About Bitcoin Scaling 23.08.2024 54:24
When we originally drew this piece up, we were thinking to make it solely about Bitcoin blockspace (as shown in the thumbnail), but this debate stretched a vast number of topics. In today's piece, we’re diving into the nuanced evolution of Bitcoin, from its foundational role as digital gold to its potential as a robust platform for onchain applications. Bitcoin’s narrative is shifting, but its...
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