That’ll Preach

In this episode, we’re joined by Jeremy Treat, pastor for preaching and vision at Reality LA and author of the new book, On the Incarnation: The Good News of Jesus for the Renewal of the World. Drawing from the brilliance of Athanasius—an early church father who defended the full divinity of Christ—Treat makes ancient theology come alive for modern readers. We explore how Athanasius's Christ-cente...

Are Baptists just LARP-ing when they talk about tradition and retrieval? In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Ian Clary—historian, theologian, and co-host of Into Theology—to explore how Baptists fit within both the Protestant and broader catholic tradition. We dive into questions of church history, patristic theology, and the resurgence of retrieval among younger evangelicals. Can Baptists draw...

Are courage, wisdom, humility, and justice gendered? Are certain virtues inherently masculine or feminine? Drawing on philosophical reasoning, Aristotelian ethics, and the incarnational model of Christ, we explore three compelling arguments for why virtue should be understood as fully human, not gender-coded. Support the Podcast Support us on Patreon Website: thatllpreach.io IG: thatllpreachpodcas...

How do we understand the relationship between the Persons of the Trinity—and why does it matter? We sit down with Dr. Blair Smith, President of RTS Charlotte to talk about the centrality of the Trinity to Christian faith and practice, common misconceptions about “eternal generation”, modern misunderstandings about hierarchy and subordination in the Trinity, and how a Trinitarian theology transform...

In this episode, we’re joined by Andrew Koperski (Hillsdale College, Ad Fontes) to explore one of the most debated and often misunderstood practices in the history of Christianity: baptism. Drawing from his in-depth research, Andrew takes us through the earliest Christian sources—from Second Temple Judaism to Justin Martyr, and from household baptisms to the evolving liturgical traditions of the e...

What happens when church leadership stops being a one-man show? In this episode, we sit down with Dave Harvey, President of The Great Commission Collective, to discuss his book The Plurality Principle  We dive into why shared leadership isn’t just a good idea, but a biblical necessity, how to navigate power dynamics among elders, and what happens when churches get plurality wrong. Dave shares insi...

In this episode, we explore the significance of Ash Wednesday and the season of Lent—40 days of repentance, mourning, and fasting in preparation for Easter. Drawing parallels to an athlete’s disciplined training, we discuss how fasting trains us to rely on God’s Word rather than our appetites. Jesus Himself calls us to fast, and through this practice, we create space for prayer, reflection, and re...

Lent is more than giving up social media—it’s a season of discipline, abstinence, and reliance on God. In this episode, we explore the history of Lent, common misconceptions, and the purpose of fasting. True fasting disciplines both body and soul, teaching us to depend on God rather than our most basic needs. If we can’t give up a meal for Christ, how can we give up our lives? Join us as we reflec...

Struggling to stay consistent in your Bible reading? Feeling stuck in your spiritual growth? In this episode, we explore how to cultivate a deep, sustainable joy in God’s Word—no guilt trips, just practical tools to help you engage Scripture in a way that sticks. From biblical meditation to church resources, we’ll show you how method fuels motivation. Show Notes Recommended Resource: Spiritual Dis...

What if every pastor had access to deep, biblical theological training—no matter where they lived? In this episode, we sit down with John Miller, Vice President and Academic Dean at Covenant Baptist Theological Seminary, whose mission is nothing short of transformational. With a burning passion to equip indigenous pastors, John is spearheading efforts to plant seminaries around the world, ensuring...

In the final episode of our series on Brother Lawrence’s Practicing the Presence of God, we explore how to bring his insights into our daily lives. Can we truly experience God as he did, or are his claims too lofty or unrealistic? We also discuss how serving others and fostering friendships can indirectly deepen our awareness of God’s presence, offering practical ways to grow spiritually. Show Not...

It’s no secret that many Christians feel disoriented when it comes to understanding the relationship between faith and politics. Much of this confusion comes from the fact that we’ve adopted a modern conception of freedom. To the modern mind freedom refers to the ability to do whatever you want, but what if that assumption is wrong? What if Christianity provides a concept of freedom that’s not onl...

We continue our series on Brother Lawrence’s classic work Practicing the Presence of God by focusing, no pun intended, on the topic of attention. One of the great insights that Brother Lawrence brings to the table is the reality that attention to God is something we train through discipline and practice. It’s not something that happens over night which challenges us to consider the ways distractio...

Our Christmas gift to you: the long-awaited return of Paul Rezkalla. In this episode we begin a new series on Brother Lawrence’s classic “Practicing the Presence of God”. We’re going to talk about what we mean by “presence of God” over against modern conceptions. We also discuss the ways distraction and worldliness draw us away from God. There’s no better time to think about practicing the presenc...

Rhys Laverty and Mark Hamilton join us to discuss their new book Augustine: Advent Homilies, a collection of seventeen sermons by Augustine on the topic of Advent. We talk about how Augustine’s sermons give insight into the ways his theological understanding, pastoral wisdom, and rhetorical skill combine to draw the hearts of his hearers upward to God. He uses paradox and imagery to illuminate the...

Multiple times a year Christians around the globe take part in one of the central rituals of the faith: the Lord’s Supper or the Eucharist. This central symbol of unity also serves as a battleground between various traditions within Christianity about the nature and meaning of this ritual. Matt Colvin enters the fray to discuss his book The Lost Supper: Revisiting Passover and the Origins of the E...

A lot of ink’s been spilled over the timeline of Matthew 24, the famous “Olivet Discourse”. Jon Sedlak helps us to step back from the debates throughout church history and examine this famous discourse with fresh eyes. What if Jesus doesn’t answer his disciples’ questions in the order they’re asked? What if he intends for his disciples to hear his words as solely about the destruction of the Templ...

Everybody wants to know the secret of “reaching the next generation”, but as many anxious parents know there’s many obstacles to teens maintaining their faith into college. This leads to books helping teens reconcile science with faith, understand modern issues about sexuality, or offer historic apologetics for the resurrection. All of these matter, but they’re insufficient for the task at hand. B...

Do you want a deeper connection to the historic roots of Christianity, but don’t know where to start? Dr. Matt Hoskin of the Davenant Institute joins us to tell the story of the first thousand years of Christianity through the seven ecumenical councils. Along the way we’ll discuss the controversies surrounding the divinity and humanity of Christ, the veneration of icons, and the political intrigue...

Did you know that shyness is a sin? Well technically the term is “pusillanimity” — a smallness of soul. Theologians of the past describe this vice as a failure to trust God. We fear the opinions of others so we shrink back from taking risks for God, serving others, and standing up for our convictions. This particular vice often masquerades as humility, but in reality demonstrates self-focus that d...

There’s a common myth that Martin Luther cut out seven books of the Old Testament as a way to remove biblical support for Roman Catholic doctrines. In reality the early church disputed whether to include the “deuterocanon” or “apocrypha” from the Old Testament Scriptures and this debate carried on until the Council of Trent in 1545. So why did the Reformers reject books like 1-2 Maccabees, Tobit,...

We rightly avoid over-indulgence in pleasure, but what happens when we under-indulge? When we refuse to enjoy the gifts of God the way he intended? In this episode we continue our series on respectable sins by talking about the sin of insensitivity. Someone may seem outwardly reverent and pious, but actually lack any affection at all for the things he believes. We’re not just talking about bare em...

There are few sections in the Bible more controversial than Romans 9-11. What does Paul mean when he says that “All Israel will be saved?” And why does he apply passages of the Bible reserved for the reunification of the northern and southern kingdoms of Israel to the Gentiles? And how does this affect the way we understand Israel today? Jason Staples tackles these questions head on in this episod...

Protestantism gets blamed for a lot of things: rampant individualism, denigration of authority, deviation from tradition, and the disenchantment of the world. But is this the true story of the Reformation? Michael Lynch from the Davenant Institute begs to differ. We talk about the theological and political underpinnings of the Reformation as well as the philosophical shifts in society that affecte...

We continue our series on respectable sins by talking about the vice of cowardice. The virtue of courage stands between the vices of cowardice and recklessness. If you’re too reckless you’re dying on too many hills, but cowardice prevents us from taking a stand at all. In this episode we talk about why recklessness is preferable to cowardice and subtle ways fear of man creeps into our lives. We al...