Profitable Painter Podcast

Send us Fan Mail We break down why painting businesses stall and show how one constraint—not 27 problems—blocks growth. Using the GAPS framework, we diagnose cash first, then capacity, then demand, and finish with mindset, market, and data so owners scale without chaos. • diagnosing the bottleneck with GAPS in P-A-G-S order • testing pricing with GP to CAC and fixing markup • locking gross profit...

Send us Fan Mail We lay out the Trifecta for painting contractors: a simple structure to keep more profit, protect assets, and pass on wealth with clarity. We explain the trust foundation, asset LLCs, and S‑Corp mechanics, then stack advanced plays for real savings. • revocable living trust as the private foundation • asset LLCs to contain risk and hold real estate • S‑Corp structure for salary an...

Send us Fan Mail We break down how painting contractors can use real estate the right way to reduce taxes, and why most rental losses don’t automatically offset active business profits. You learn three legal paths, where they fit, and what records you need to make them work. • how depreciation creates paper losses • why passive losses don’t offset active income • pathway 1: real estate professiona...

Send us Fan Mail We break down how serious buyers value painting companies using EBITDA and risk-adjusted multiples, then show how to double value by removing single-channel dependence. The goal is clarity, not hype, so you can raise profit, reduce risk, and build a company that runs without you. • buyers focus on risk of cash flow, not owner effort • difference between job buyers and asset buyers...

Send us Fan Mail We talk with Lauren about launching a rural painting company, scaling fast through brand and responsiveness, and selling to McFarland Painting in four years. She shares honest lessons on hiring a PM, doing open-book due diligence, and finding a better role post-sale. • starting Apex Painting in 2021 and reaching $650k in two years • using yard signs, reviews and a simple site to b...

Send us Fan Mail We walk through a simple funnel and a clear profitability test to judge whether Facebook and Instagram lead forms pay for a painting business. We show the benchmarks, the speed-to-lead standards, the diagnostic order, and a BANT filter that protects your calendar and close rate. • four-step funnel from lead to job closed • cost per booked job as the north star metric • seven per c...

Send us Fan Mail We lay out a simple system to price painting jobs accurately, mark up materials and labor correctly, and use close rate as a clean market signal. The result is stable gross profit, clearer work orders, and confidence to raise prices without killing demand. • production rate estimating to predict labor hours • PCA benchmarks versus timing your own crew • moving from square footage...

Send us Fan Mail We show why painting companies lose profit to misaligned incentives and share pay models that make every role protect gross profit. Sales, production, leadership, and admin all get clear rules that tie pay to outcomes, not hours or revenue alone. • sales comp with base commission plus GP-based step bonuses • production manager pay split into base and performance tied to volume, GP...

Send us Fan Mail We lay out four numbers that tell you if a painting job builds profit or drains cash, and show how to set deposits and milestones so growth funds itself. The result is a simple playbook to price right, buy leads with confidence, and end payroll stress. • defining gross profit and why 50% vs 30% changes everything • calculating customer acquisition cost including ads, leads, and sa...

Send us Fan Mail We share four cash flow plays that keep a painting business liquid while it grows fast. From legal deposit limits to payroll timing and progress billing, we design the money flow so cash shows up when work happens. • cash survival moves for low bank balance • collecting receivables and raising legal deposits • progress payments tied to milestones • paying subs after customer payme...

Send us Fan Mail Work with us https://profitablepaintercpa.com/vsl Free Book - Profitable Painter https://profitablepaintercpa.com/book We lay out a simple budget that starts with your income target and works backward to revenue, sales, production, and overhead. By pricing your roles and checking capacity, you learn exactly what $1M requires and what you should pay yourself for each hat you wear....

Send us Fan Mail Grab a free copy of Profitable Painter here: https://profitablepaintercpa.com/book Work with Profitable Painter CPA here: https://profitablepaintercpa.com/vsl You carry the payroll, the risk, the insurance, and the stress—so why does your paycheck still feel like an afterthought? We open the books on owner compensation for painting contractors and explain how to know, in dollars,...

Send us Fan Mail Ever wonder what happens when purpose collides with process? We bring on Tanner Mullen—third-generation painter, founder of DripJobs, and author of 31 Days of Value—to unpack how a service-first mindset, fast hiring, and relentless follow-up can transform a trades business from chaotic to compounding. The story begins with a personal pivot: leaving a promising corporate path to he...

Send us Fan Mail If you’ve ever felt trapped between the brush and the books, this conversation will feel like a map out of the maze. We sit down with Cui of Paramo Painting in San Antonio to trace his path from chaotic early days to a focused, people-first business powered by servant leadership, job costing, and simple, repeatable processes. The turning point wasn’t a hack—it was humility. Honest...

Send us Fan Mail What does it take to jump from $110,000 to $1.1 million in a single year—and then keep climbing toward $2 million? Ryan Pettis joins us to share the unvarnished playbook: get crystal clear on the end goal, surround yourself with bigger players, and execute faster than your fear. He started at 15 with his great uncle, saw the gap in professionalism, left college to go all-in, and t...

Send us Fan Mail In this episode of The Profitable Painter Podcast , Daniel sits down with José , founder of Refined Painting in Washington State, one of the fastest-growing painting companies in the country. José’s story is wild:  He entered the industry as an estimator for only 3–4 months , had zero painting experience , then quit to launch his own company, and proceeded to hit $1 million in jus...

Send us Fan Mail In this episode of The Profitable Painter Podcast , Daniel sits down with Benson , founder of Legacy Paint Holdings, one of the most ambitious and innovative roll-ups in the modern painting industry. Benson’s story is extraordinary: starting a painting company in high school during the 2020 lockdown, scaling to multi-location operations while still in college, consulting for over...

Send us Fan Mail In this episode of The Profitable Painter Podcast , Daniel sits down with Gabe Elias , founder of EVM Home Improvements, one of the fastest-growing painting and home improvement companies in Massachusetts. Gabe went from a 19-year-old Student Painters rookie producing $200K in one summer to building a powerhouse business doing $4,000,000+ in only three years , plus acquiring a 7-f...

Send us Fan Mail In this episode of The Profitable Painter Podcast , Daniel sits down with Hassan , owner of a fast-growing painting company out of Raleigh, North Carolina. Hassan shares how he and his wife went from frustrated homeowners dealing with unprofessional contractors to building a 1.8M+ painting business in just a few years.  Hassan breaks down the exact strategies that fueled their rap...

Send us Fan Mail In this episode of The Profitable Painter Podcast , Daniel sits down with Amy Stewart , a third-generation painter from Oregon who transformed her lifelong craft into a boutique, high-end finishing business specializing in Venetian plaster, faux finishes, murals, and tadelakt showers. Amy shares her remarkable journey, from learning meticulous craftsmanship as a child, to discover...

Send us Fan Mail We sit down with Brandon Lewis of the Academy for Professional Painting Contractors to dissect the exact playbook top-tier painting companies use to skyrocket profit, eliminate waste, and build a business that runs from a desk—not from their van. Brandon exposes the divide between owners who chase complexity and those who master the fundamentals: written goals, time-blocked deep w...

Send us Fan Mail We share how Grace took a sleepy painting company, faced a divorce and a two-hour commute with five kids, and still 10x’d revenue by focusing on sales, margins, and team. The path is not easy, but it is simple: solve the next problem, implement fast, and use a proven roadmap. • starting in cleaning then pivoting to painting for better margins • taking over the company after divorc...

Send us Fan Mail In this episode, Daniel sits down with Chad Turpen , owner of a thriving painting business in Indiana, to unpack how he grew from a one-man operation to a $3M powerhouse, all while staying true to his mission of raising the standard in the painting trade. Chad opens up about the lessons learned from scaling, hiring the right team, and the importance of branding, marketing, and min...

Send us Fan Mail Struggling to scale past the half-million mark with a small team? In this insightful episode of the Profitable Painter Podcast, we sit down with Micah from Wild Fox Painting in Colorado. He started his company from scratch in 2018 and has systematically scaled it to nearly $500K with just 2.5 people—and is on track to hit $1M. He reveals the power of niching down, creating hyper-e...

Send us Fan Mail Struggling to scale beyond $2M and stuck as the bottleneck in your own painting business? In this game-changing episode of the Profitable Painter Podcast, we sit down with Michael Cheney, who grew No Drip Painting from a side hustle into a projected $4M empire in Columbus, Ohio. He reveals the exact leadership and hiring shifts that unlocked explosive growth, and how he’s building...