Nurtural Disasters

On this episode, the hosts go further in depth about Collin Gosselin from “Jon & Kate Plus 8” and his damning allegations about his mother, Kate. Collin discusses being committed to a mental health facility, and how he engineered a way to get out. It might have something to do with underpants. Eventually, he pursues his dream of joining the military, but his history of mental illnesses, all cl...

In his new memoir, Collin Gosselin, one of the children of the hit TLC reality show “Jon & Kate Plus 8”, details his childhood in front of the cameras. What it didn’t capture was his heinous treatment at the hands of his vindicative mother, Kate, who lived a façade of being the epitome of a superhero parent. Collin alleges being the target of abuse and isolation due to his unwillingness to be...

What is more exhausting? Trying to reason with a crazy person? Or explaining to your relatives that the crazy person cannot be reasoned with? On this episode, the hosts discuss cost-effective wedding ceremonies, which may or may not be located at a local strip mall. Ken considers hiring a fake family in lieu of inviting his actual one for his upcoming wedding, fearing his narcissist father might r...

“Nobody panics when things go according to plan.” The Joker must have not been raised by narcissistic parents. Returning from a family wedding where everything went according to plan, Ken reflects on how not inviting toxic family people likely removes potential drama at the event. Lisa recalls how her mother told inappropriate stories while wearing an equally inappropriate dress to her brother’s w...

I was Today Years Old when I realized I've been getting the name of the film wrong. On this bonus release, the entire three-part series on The Narcissist's Playbook is compiled into one very long episode. FROM EPISODE 20: For the twentieth episode, the hosts analyze and review the new feature documentary, The Narcissist's Playbook without any major spoilers. The film by Mark Vicente explores the c...

In this short and sweet episode, the hosts chronicle some past stories about their parents that shaped their current adult lives; which, surprisingly, is not spent at a mental institution. Ken explains why relying on a control-freak narcissist as a father or husband leads to unsavory consequences. What Ken’s father says about his wife’s dementia is shocking. When Lisa asks for braces for her crook...

When Lindsay Clancy went on trial for the murder of her three children, it created national headlines with polarizing viewpoints on the culpability of a mother who lost her mental faculties. What appeared to be a simple open and shut case became much deeper and complicated as more about Clancy’s descent into madness was revealed to the public. The idyllic perceptions about the miracles of motherho...

If you were raised by narcissistic parents, it is likely that you never had a proper birthday celebration or any party at all. What happens when the hosts are in the midst of birthday blues while reminiscing about the ghosts of past childhood birthdays? Enjoy this special bonus episode compilation of Episode 17 and 18. FROM EPISODE 17: "Big, Bad Birthday Bash" What happens when a child of a narcis...

Moonwalk through the entire two-episode spectacular about Michael , the blockbuster biopic chronicling the early life of Michael Jackson and his tumultuous relationship with his abusive father, Joe. It's 78 minutes long, but still shorter than the runtime of the film! FROM EPISODE 13: "Smooth Criminal: The Dad of Michael Jackson" The Man. The Myth. The King of Pop. On this episode, Ken and Lisa go...

While witnessing the fallout of Hayden Panettiere’s death, the hosts realize there are situations where staying silent might be the best decision. Unfortunately, Lesley Vogel, Hayden’s mother, did not get the memo by embarking on a media blitz that included sit-down interviews with Good Morning America and the Daily Mail. Vogel sought to clap back at the haters and at her daughter’s claims framed...

Beneath her angelic smile was an accomplished lady battling her inner demons. On this episode, the hosts discuss the complicated life of Hayden Panettiere, a beloved actress who recently passed away at the age of 36, through the analysis of her memoir and her recent interview with Jay Shetty. Panettiere dealt with Hollywood betrayals, addiction, severe postpartum depression, and perhaps worse than...

[Warning! Spoilers ahead] On this episode, the hosts are confronted with an Instagram DM from one of the subjects of The Narcissist's Playbook , Sam Veknin, who claims the documentary was an orchestrated hit-piece on him. Ken and Lisa gradually deconstruct his message, which is filled with questionable statements and flawed timelines. Essentially, the numbers just don’t add up. Veknin remarks that...

[Warning: This episode feature heavy spoilers!] The Narcissist's Playbook Does evil truly exist? Can you truly be safe when the narcissists are all around us? Welcome to the twenty-first episode of Nurtural Disasters. If this podcast was an American, it would finally be old enough to drink. For the episode this week, the hosts dive much further into the newly-released documentary The Narcissist Pl...

The Narcissist Playbook For the twentieth episode, the hosts analyze and review the new feature documentary, The Narcissist's Playbook without any major spoilers. The film by Mark Vicente explores the complexities of narcissism from various viewpoints of perpetrators and victims alike. A self-proclaimed narcissist goes through life coping with the residual effects of his upbringing, juxtaposed wit...

[This Special Episode includes content from "Who's the Grown Up Here?" and "Idiot Sandwiches, Alienation, and British Accents, Oh My!" with vulgarity removed] Now that the World Cup is over with a less-than-ideal result from The Three Lions, the hosts of this podcast are looking to anger England once again by discussing more of the fallout of the Beckham family drama with commentary from family fr...

Still reeling from technical difficulties created by their Podcast provider, Ken and Lisa attempt to record and edit an episode they can be proud of, while not completely losing their collective sanity. Lisa finds out her narcissistic mother has moved into her neighborhood through community posts on social media. Apparently, she has lost her new dog right across town. When and how did she get ther...

[This is the re-release of Episode 2: "Posh Problems" with fixed audio and censoring of vulgar language] Five months ago, this podcast embarked on a journey of calling out toxic parenting from the point of view of the victims. The second episode featured an analysis of the Beckham family feud, which saw Brooklyn alleging mistreatment from his famous parents, David and Victoria. The concepts of fin...

(This is the second part of the episode, "Big, Bad Birthday Bash". Please listen to Part 1!) Attempting to recover from technical difficulty, the hosts decide to reminisce more about their birthdays under the thumbs of their narcissist parents. Lisa declares revenge on her mother by purposely ignoring her on Mother’s Day. Meanwhile, Ken remembers how his 25th birthday celebration was unceremonious...

Dealing with some technical difficulties, the hosts decide to merge both parts of the interview with Megan Morrow into one full episode. It is now the length of an arthouse film or a work commute in California. Enjoy this while the hosts send threatening emails to their Podcast service provider. FROM EPISODE 12: "Musically Enmeshed" "[Mom], you're not my friend." Megan Morrow, the singer of the sh...

What happens when a child of a narcissist has a birthday? Can a narcissist cope with not being the center of attention for a day at the expense of their child? The cakes hit the fan when Ken and Lisa talk about their worst birthday experiences growing up with narcissistic parents and dysfunctional family dynamics. Lisa laments her birthday as a young adult that was filled with a lot of vomit, but...

In 2022, Mackinzie Shirilla drove full speed into a brick wall, killing two passengers including her boyfriend, Dominic Russo. What was originally reported as an accident ended up being much more sinister when Mackenzie’s perverse and callous behavior became the topic of two separate crime documentaries: The Crash and Mean Girl Murders . Did permissive parenting lead to the breeding of a murderer?...

(This is the second part of the episode, "Smooth Criminal: The Dad of Michael Jackson". Please listen to Part 1!) When we look at successful celebrities, who were victims of child abuse, do the ends justify the means? Does survivorship bias alter public perception of the actual rarity of people who transcend being abused by their parents? On this episode, Ken and Lisa continue discussing the block...

(This is the second part of the episode, "Musically Enmeshed". Please listen to Part 1!) Welcome back to the second part of our interview with Megan Morrow, where she expands upon her motivations for songwriting and performing for live audiences, using creative process to turn trauma into art. She discusses how her inspirations for one of her future releases dealt with limerence that was birthed f...

The Man. The Myth. The King of Pop. On this episode, Ken and Lisa go to the movies to discuss the new hit film, Michael , a biopic that chronicles the ascent of Michael Jackson as a world-class performer and pop cultural icon. All the while, his abusive father, Joe Jackson, controlled and manipulated his children to fulfill his own narcissistic and self-serving vision. How was Michael able to esca...

"[Mom], you're not my friend." Megan Morrow, the singer of the show’s theme, joins the dynamic duo, Ken and Lisa, in the studio to discuss how her life experiences and familial relationships contributed to the creative process of songwriting. It might not have been the most ideal childhood, as she recalls having arguments with her mother only to have a literal door slammed in her face. Forming fri...