Kate Wang, Susan Lieu, Jeanette Park
Model Minority Moms
Welcome to Model Minority Moms where we reckon with the myth of success in career, family and life. We’re Jeanette, Kate, and Susan - Harvard classmates and Asian American working moms who get real about the pressures of fitting in while standing out. https://modelminoritymoms.comModel Minority Moms is a project of Real Life Media LLC.
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Ep116: Going on 40... has the role of career changed for you? (Part 1) 18.07.2025 45:12
**Special note to our listeners** Love the show? Help us keep the conversation going! Become a paid subscriber through our Substack. Your contributions help us continue to make content on issues related to the Asian-American, immigrant, modern parent experience. THANK YOU to our super awesome listeners who have already signed up! ********************************** When you're a high-ach...
Ep115: Going on 40... body surprises 04.07.2025 1:07:07
**Special note to our listeners** Love the show? Help us keep the conversation going! Become a paid subscriber through our Substack. Your contributions help us continue to make content on issues related to the Asian-American, immigrant, modern parent experience. THANK YOU to our super awesome listeners who have already signed up! ****************************** Peeing yourself. Hair loss....
Ep114: Going on 40… or 14 when we're with our parents and siblings 20.06.2025 53:26
**Special note to our listeners** Love the show? Help us keep the conversation going! Become a paid subscriber through our Substack. Your contributions help us continue to make content on issues related to the Asian-American, immigrant, modern parent experience. THANK YOU to our super awesome listeners who have already signed up! **************** One learning from getting older is that you...
Ep113: Going on 40... Midlife Crises... are more understandable now? 06.06.2025 1:08:44
**Special note to our listeners** Love the show? Help us keep the conversation going! Become a paid subscriber through our Substack. Your contributions help us continue to make content on issues related to the Asian-American, immigrant, modern parent experience. **************** Let us explain. No, we haven't bought a red convertible, had an affair or gotten a divorce. But reaching this s...
Ep112: Going on 40... is success an existential mirage? 23.05.2025 1:31:26
**Special note to our listeners** Love the show? Help us keep the conversation going! Become a paid subscriber through our Substack. Your contributions help us continue to make content on issues related to the Asian-American, immigrant, modern parent experience. **************** As we turn the corner into mid-life, we're talking about the questions we're wrestling with at 40 - Am I livi...
Ep111: Picking a kindergarten... who's this actually about? 06.05.2025 1:27:06
**Special note to our listeners** Love the show? Help us keep the conversation going! Become a paid subscriber through our Substack. Your contributions help us continue to make content on issues related to the Asian-American, immigrant, modern parent experience. **************** Kindergarten…you think it's far away until it's not. All of a sudden you're faced with a myriad of decisions...
Ep110: To have a baby or not to have a baby, that is the question 25.04.2025 1:20:37
For some of us, we always knew we wanted kids, no matter what. For others, that was never in our vision for life but nearing the end of the biological clock, we're revisiting that question. For still others, we may have started one way but ended up another because of relationships, biology, logistics, costs, better understanding of what parenthood entails, the-world-is-ending-feeling, etc. In this...
Ep109: Talking to your kids about S-E-X - Interview with Justine Ang Fonte, M.Ed. MPH, a K-12 sexuality educator and author 11.04.2025 1:37:33
For many millennials, sex education was about awkwardly passing around a banana with a condom on it in PE class or carrying around a sack of flour pretending it was a baby. We want to do it better for our kids, OBVIOUSLY, but... do we really know how to do it better? We are excited to welcome Justine Ang Fonte on the show. She was featured in the New York Times about her work bringing sex ed to...
Ep108: Our 100th(-ish) episode retrospective 28.03.2025 1:09:36
In true MMM fashion, we are releasing our look-back conversation on releasing our 100th episode... on episode 108 X_X. We talk about what keeps us going with the show (psst - its not the big bucks), what our partners think of it, what topics we've considered but decided NOT to do, what our listeners have shared with us, our favorite episodes (it's so hard to choose!), our controversial nam...
Ep107: Stuck in a career rut? Burnt out? Don't know what to do next? Interview with executive coach Minal Mehta of The Ineffable Leader 14.03.2025 1:33:18
Trying to keep career momentum as a mom of young kids can be really tough. On top of all the demands of being a parent, wife, and daughter, going hard at the office can start to feel like a slog. Moreover, being a parent and approaching middle life can surface a lot of questions about your priorities and your choices, including about work. And of course, all your baggage from being a women, Asian-...
Ep106: Introducing: Add to Cart with with Susan Lieu 28.02.2025 50:03
We're so excited to share with you our first collab with another podcast - Add to Cart! Susan was a guest on the show to discuss her book, her love of Costco and her grumblings about the rising price of matcha lattes :) Listen to the trifecta of the Asian Aunties as Susan Lieu joins SuChin Pak and Kulap Vilaysack on this episode of Add to Cart. Susan talks about writing her first memoir, “The Mani...
Ep105: Considering marriage counseling? Talking to Jessica Sather, a licensed marriage and family therapist in Emotionally Focused Therapy 14.02.2025 1:28:38
If you've been with your partner for awhile now, you may realize that there are certain conflict patterns that happen over and over. He does something that pisses you off, you bring it up, he does X, you do Y, so on and so on, over and over again. Or vice versa :p Or you guys are just so tired from parenthood, work, continued disappointment or dealing with things from the past that you have ju...
Ep104: Suchin Pak - MTV host, mom, what it means to be married in sickness and in health 31.01.2025 1:20:42
Do you remember watching MTV as a teenager and noticing that one of the hosts was kick-ass Asian-American young woman named Suchin Pak? Well, guess what - WE HAVE HER ON OUR SHOW TODAY and we go deep on her unexpected path to MTV, what it was like to work that job for over a decade, what life is like for her now as a mother of two, and the winding journey she's been on with her husband who has...
Ep103: How your mental health affects your wealth 17.01.2025 1:50:17
Do you ever wonder why it's so hard for you or your partner to stick to a budget? Or organize your finances? Or even talk about money? Do you read tons of financial advice but struggle to actually do it? Or do you tend to stick your head in the sand and hope it will all work out? In this episode (our first *video* episode!), we talk to Shang Saavedra, the author of the recently released book calle...
Ep102: What it's like to be an Asian-American psychiatrist 03.01.2025 1:26:06
We talk a lot about mental health and we thought it was about time to bring on a real mental health expert on the show, preferably someone who also has personal familiarity with the Asian American experience. What do you think of psychiatric medication? Do you ever see any Asian-Americans who are our parents generation (and what is THAT like???) What do your parents think about what you do? How do...
Ep101: Your Uterus is Not Hysterical - how men having dumb ideas about women's health has led to the situation we are in today 20.12.2024 1:25:35
Have you ever wondered why the term "hysterectomy" sounds so similar to the word "hysteria"? Well it turns out it's because the ancient Greeks thought that the root of all of emotional troubles for women were due to a uterus that just wandered around the woman's body if it wasn't kept busy with enough sex and pregnancies. Tune into this hysterical (pun intended) interview with author and OBGYN exp...
Ep100: Finding out the truth about her parents - guest interview with actress, comedian and producer Kulap Vilaysack 06.12.2024 1:12:34
Kulap Vilaysack is a bit of a unicorn. She's a Laotian-American actress, comedian and show creator who has directed and produced hit shows like Bajillion Dollar Propertie$. She even has a real DC Comics superhero inspired by her, Katharsis! She also created a documentary about her family called Origin Story, where she tells the story of her father who she learned wasn't her biological dad when she...
Ep99: Climate anxiety for parents! 22.11.2024 1:02:17
If you weren't worried about climate change already, don't worry! Becoming parents will surely increase your climate change anxiety. From the very real concern of leaving behind a burning and unlivable planet to your children, to the very real concerns now of protecting your young ones from excessive heat, wildfire smoke, floods and storms, parenthood is **guaranteed** to give you greater climate...
Ep98: Radically re-thinking education with teacher and school leader Susan Yao 08.11.2024 1:32:27
Most of our listeners (and us) grew up in a pretty traditional education system. There were lessons, there was a lot of practice, there were tests and if you got a A, someone asked why it wasn't an A+. For many of us, it also was layered with a ton of stress and constant anxiety. It was all supposed to lead one day to admission to a top tier college and then a rather hazy happily-ever-after. Now r...
Ep97: The Golden Hour - our pop culture favs right now 25.10.2024 52:28
WARNING: This episode contains spoilers for Bridgerton (seasons 1, 2 and 3), Queen Charlotte, the Kdrama Crash Landing on you and C-Drama The Double. In this episode, we're talking about the Golden Hour - the time between roughly 9pm-10pm, when the kids finally have fallen asleep, the house is decently cleaned up, and you finally have a little time to do something that *you* want to do. Sometimes,...
Ep96: Help - running out of RAM 11.10.2024 38:01
Tells children "doe" means "small deer" (that's wrong). Bops sideview mirror from minivan for the nth time. Cannot remember garage code that you've had for the last two years. Having more trouble finding phone than usual. Maybe thinking about putting kids' cereal in a timed pet food dispenser. Maybe. If you can relate at all, this episode is for you mom/ parent of young children. If you're just co...
Ep95: So you want to be a dad 27.09.2024 1:03:18
We humbly present to you, our mini-dad-bootcamp in podcast episode form. If you're thinking about being a dad, listen to it now. If you're already a dad, listen to it before it's too late. If you're a woman in a heterosexual relationship, send this to your partner. What we say isn't easy but it's real, and we hope our 15+ years of experience parenting in the context of a ma...
Ep94: Party like it's your birthday 13.09.2024 59:37
It's your birthday, it's your birthday, we're going to partay like it's your birthday... ok maybe it looks a little different when you're nearing 40 with young kids. In this episode, we hash out our feelings around our birthdays - the expectations, the disappointments, the meltdowns we're not proud of and Susan's dream birthday... a FUN-eral.
Ep93: When Anxiety met Motherhood, Part 2 - Interview with Peipei Fiore 30.08.2024 1:17:51
In the part two of this interview, we dive deeper with Peipei into the impact that her mental health journey has had on her relationship with her partner and her children, and ways she has tried to rebuild from the toll that her struggles have taken on her relationships.
Ep92: When Anxiety met Motherhood, Part 1 - Interview with Peipei Fiore 16.08.2024 1:36:47
In this episode, we sit down with Peipei Fiore, a former television executive and mom to three girls, who was forced to confront her long-running anxiety and depression when she unexpectedly became a mother and wife. She's also an OG MMM listener who was gracious enough to share her story with us. In this two-part series (second part to be released in two weeks), we dive deep into Peipei's...
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