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Send us Fan Mail Remember how Phil kept this podcast a secret from his spouse Allison? Heck, he even secretly recorded an episode from a hot closet in his home. Peter works his magic and convinces Allison to join us as the surprise guest, and was it ever a surprise! After the shock wears off, we talk about the multifaceted role Allison has as a professional musician, string players' disdain f...

Send us Fan Mail Peter's back! However, that doesn't mean the quality of the show is any better. What does help is that Dr. Nat Dickey from Concordia College shares some time with us to talk about his background as an educator, musician, department chair, and low brass specialist. We chat about his start and journey in music, two of Phil's craziest performances, Harvard, the group &...

Send us Fan Mail Is it possible to do a show without Peter? The answer is "yes." In fact, not only is it possible it shaved off at least 10 minutes of pointless rambling.  Today's guest is the amazing Dr. Emily Threinen who is an Associate Professor of Music and serves as Director of Bands at the University of Minnesota School of Music in the Twin Cities. We talk about the influence...

Send us Fan Mail What does the intersection of math and music education look like? Meet Dr. Josh Hertel, Associate Professor of Math and Statistics at UW-LaCrosse. Josh is not only a great musician and mathematician but also responsible for two musicals and the creation of a board game convention! Our conversation covers stinger mutes, double stand racks, silos, trombone ensemble trip to Ithaca to...

Send us Fan Mail Talk about wearing many hats! Our guest today is the one and only, Patrick Sheridan. Many know him as a virtuoso tuba performer, former member of the President's Own United States Marine Band, and co-author of The Breathing Gym . Yet, in this episode we learn about the scope and variety of things the Patrick is involved in. We also take time to hear about his start as a music...

Send us Fan Mail It is universal. This week's guest is loved by all who are fortunate enough to know him. Dr. Jerry Young is a world-renown educator, mentor, musician, and human. His wit and humor more than made up for the lack of those two things by the hosts. We chatted about failed retirements, new projects, tuba quartets, The Ravenna Ohio Saga, his start in music, two key tips to help you...

Send us Fan Mail This episode puts on full display how one educator team works seamlessly together for the benefit of learners while another team struggles to be in the same room. Music educators, Bradley Mariska and Erin Holmes, are the highly successful and brilliant team from Farmington High School joining us this week. We talk about failed introductions, shoes, pep band voice, Hamilton the cla...

Send us Fan Mail We are now equal to the Star Wars Saga! (Well only in the number of episodes....) This week we welcome Schmitt Music's 2023 Educator of the Year, Eric Songer! Eric shares with us stories about a fire diving con man, coaching kindergarten and 1st graders in bowling, teaching modern band, "Rocket" magazine, limited memory capacity, joining Chicago , the School of Rock...

Send us Fan Mail In this week's episode Allison finds out that Phil is making this podcast, some of Peter's students stop by to communicate their appreciation for his teaching, and a young composer named Paco Van Bernsteinsky (aka- Brian Balmages) hopes to finally launch his career. Our conversations will encompass Beethoven's daily routine, moving to Alfred, Kyiv 2022, Brian's...

Send us Fan Mail In this week's episode we reflect on Peter’s recent tour with the Concordia Band and Elliot Ostrander’s (Phil and Allison’s Son) review of one of the performances prior to introducing our esteemed guest, composer, music educator and amazing human, Andrew Boysen Jr. We talk about his start as a composer, his composition style and process, Myron Welch,  Nick Orovich, and Timoth...

Send us Fan Mail Talk about the ultimate mashup! Talented composer and musician, Jocelyn Hagen, known for her amazing mashups (and much more) joins the ArtLess fellas for an intriguing discussion about Jocelyn's soon to premiere and SOLD OUT opera, The Song Poet.  Described as "The first Hmong story adapted for the operatic stage, St. Paul writer Kao Kalia Yang’s memoir The Song Poet com...

Send us Fan Mail Episode 5 features the beloved music educator, leader, mentor, and human, Patty Schlafer. She shares with us her start in music education, her proudest moments, and playing Uno with a few mean girls. We talk over relocation options with Phil, tuba mutes, initial listener feedback, and a pitchless (possibly artless) rendition of the National Anthem.  Support the show

Send us Fan Mail Episode 4 has many similarities to Wagner's Ring Cycle - it is both long and epic! On the show is Peter's former colleague, dear friend, and AMAZING music educator, Parker Bixby, Mercer Island Band Program in Seattle. Our chat includes ideas regarding music department websites, vertical staffing, and a new philosophy and process for auditions. Don't worry, it's...

Send us Fan Mail Episode three carries some serious "star" power....like Dancing With The Stars power! Los Angeles freelance trombonist/vocalist/low brass specialist, Craig Gosnell, joins us for a chat about studio playing, The Rock, Bill Holmen, Gonna Fly Now at fff, polkas, and buttons. To learn more about Craig check out his list of amazing accomplishments here: https://www.greenhoe.c...

Send us Fan Mail Well...we somehow figured out how to do another podcast an good thing because this week we were joined by composer, entrepreneur, musician, inventor, educator, and all-around amazing person, Erika Svanoe! Erika chats with us about card games, fear, Andy Boysen Jr, failed community theatre roles, her first symphony and much more. If you can stomach the sound of Chris, Peter, and Ph...

Send us Fan Mail In our first (and maybe last) podcast, UW-Madison Director of Bands, Prof. Scott Teeple, joins us for a chat about his childhood in Michigan, Interlochen, stingers, how to begin a rehearsal, pizza, and even Mahler. As you will hear, no topic is off the table and the best parts of the show have little or nothing to do with the three idiots who are the hosts.  Support the show

Send us Fan Mail “Beyond ArtLess" with Chris Gleason, Peter Haberman & Phil Ostrander is a podcast that explores the friendships and the community that exists in and outside of the arts and arts education. In each episode of Beyond ArtLess, one of the hosts reveals his mystery guest to the other two. What comes next is a fun-filled conversation revealing the joy of friendship and the artl...