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Politics with Michelle Grattan

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The Conversation's Chief Political Correspondent Michelle Grattan talks politics with politicians and experts, from Capital Hill.

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Business chief urges government to use more means testing 06.11.2026

This week, mortgage holders were hit with more bad news as the Reserve Bank raised interest rates for the fifth time this year. Businesses are also feeling the pinch from increasing costs, high rates, and low consumer confidence. This week, CEO of the Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry, Andrew McKellar, joins us on the podcast to discuss ACCI's prescriptions for the country's economic ill...

Joe Hockey on how Trump would handle defeat in midterms 27.10.2026

Joe Hockey, former Australian ambassador to Washington and former treasurer in the Abbott government, is now a founding partner and president of Bondi Partners, an advisory and investment firm. Based largely in Washington, he has closely observed both Trump administrations. In this episode, Hockey joins Michelle Grattan to discuss week's midterm elections in the United States. They unpack why the...

Ed Husic urges brakes on data centres 'swamping' Australia 20.10.2026

The former industry minister said Australia is 'going too fast' and 'been swamped by US tech' building data centres here to dodge growing US community opposition.

Josh Frydenberg's plan to keep speaking out 12.10.2026

The former treasurer and deputy Liberal leader said he's still deciding whether to make a political comeback, which he'll announce in the new year.

Why Victoria's unpredictable election matters nationally 08.10.2026

Premier Ben Carroll, Opposition Leader Jess Wilson, One Nation's Colleen Harkin and pollster Tony Barry preview November 28's closely watched election.

Tim Wilson says government is borrowing from the future to spend today 30.09.2026

The shadow treasurer also blames government spending for inflation and says the Coalition would not 'spend willy-nilly' if elected.

Jim Chalmers warns rising debt bills are set to hit the budget 22.09.2026

The treasurer says there's 'likely to be billions of dollars extra' in higher bills on government debt in December's budget update.

Matt Canavan on combatting One Nation. 17.09.2026

The Nationals leader said he'll do 'whatever it takes' to beat the Labor government – including not ruling out a move to the lower house before the next election.

Chris Bowen on co-hosting COP and Australia's renewables target 09.09.2026

The environment minister has fought back against criticisms that very few world leaders will attend the pre-COP meeting in the Pacific.

Sarah Hanson-Young on why progressives need to 'take on' One Nation 03.09.2026

The Greens' longest serving federal politician said politics 'isn't working' for ordinary voters and all parties need to do better at addressing their grievances.

Politics with Michelle Grattan: Andrew Charlton's warning on data centres' impact on power bills 27.08.2026

Speaking before the National Cabinet meeting ended, the cabinet secretary warned household bills are likely to rise if data centres are powered by coal or gas.

One Nation's David Farley on the migrants his party wants 18.08.2026

Farley described One Nation's immigration target as more complex than its official 130,000 figure, estimating about 40,000 more 'rotating' migrants were also needed.

Sally McManus on how AI could force future cuts to HECS debts and work hours 05.08.2026

The outgoing union leader said that beyond the new Victorian royal commission, 'a lot more needs to be done' to fight corruption in construction Australia-wide.

Bridie O'Donnell on the 'precarious business' of the Tour de France 29.07.2026

The ex-champion cyclist turned commentator explains why heat is a growing risk to the annual summer event, and points to some Australian women to watch this weekend.

Paul Kelly on why Albanese is 'misunderstood' and Taylor needs to stay 23.07.2026

In more than 50 years of covering federal politics, The Australian's editor-at-large says he has 'never seen a crisis' like the one facing the Liberal Party today.

Wayne Swan on a 'dramatically different' political contest 15.07.2026

The outgoing Labor president explains why no votes can be taken for granted in a time of 'anxiety and insecurity'.

Andrew Wilkie on the need to go harder to curb gambling advertising 08.07.2026

Long-time gambling reform advocate Andrew Wilkie says a reason the government is being timid on the issue is because of close relationships with affected industries.

Julian Leeser on fighting an 'explosion' of hate in Australia 02.07.2026

The Liberal frontbencher is the opposition’s leading Jewish voice and will soon appear at the royal commission on antisemitism.

Jenny McAllister on why NDIS reforms are being delayed 25.06.2026

The NDIS minister joined the podcast to discuss the government's reforms – and what the changes mean for 160,000 Australians.

Jonno Duniam on guilt and relief about quitting politics 18.06.2026

The departing Liberal frontbencher also said it's 'mad' to be talking about doing deals with One Nation so far from an election. Mentioned in this episode: The Making of One Nation Follow the Making of One Nation so you don't miss an episode.

Pollster Simon Welsh on One Nation's rise and Victoria's 'very messy' election 10.06.2026

The pollster also warns any move to replace Victorian premier Jacinta Allan before the November state election would be a 'disaster' for Labor. Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025 The Making of One Nation Follow the Making of One Nation so you don't miss an episode.

Graeme Samuel on 'doomsday' attacks on the federal budget 03.06.2026

The businessman and former competition chief says the fierce criticism of what he calls 'mild' budget changes shows why politicians have avoided reform for decades. Mentioned in this episode: The Making of One Nation Follow the Making of One Nation so you don't miss an episode. Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025

Keith Wolahan on when Liberals should preference One Nation 27.05.2026

The moderate Liberal, who lost his seat last year, said his party was now 'fighting for its existence' – and can't ignore the need to work with One Nation. Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025

Margaret Thornton on the landmark Tickle v Giggle transgender case 20.05.2026

The anti-discrimination expert explains what the case was about, why it's set for an appeal -- and the broader implications if the decision stands. Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025 The Making of One Nation Follow the Making of One Nation so you don't miss an episode.

Jim Chalmers says 'we're in the cart' for more tax relief 14.05.2026

The treasurer joined us on the podcast to defend his fifth budget, explaining the 'new architecture' to make future tax cuts easier 'when the budget can afford it'. Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025 The Making of One Nation Search for "The Making of One Nation" - new episodes out weekly. The Making of One Nation

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