Corporate Legal Operations Consortium
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Tune in to CLOC Talk every other week to discover thought leaders hailing from corporate law departments, law firms, legal technology enterprises, legal services firms, consulting services providers, and academia. You may just find the meaning of life.
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The Revolution Will Not Be Televised 09.02.2023 46:14
David Cowen is a connector. For 20 years, he's connected major players across the legal industry. He is also the founder of SOLID. In today's episode of CLOC Talk, Jenn, and David discuss imposter syndrome and how you can stay inspired and curious in today's legal ops ecosystem. Check out SOLID here: https://www.solid.legal/
Inclusion: It's an Inside Job - A Conversation with Netflix's Director of Inclusion Strategy, Cristina Hernandez 01.02.2023 23:11
Jenn McCarron interviews her colleague Director of Global Inclusion Initiatives & Insights at Netflix, Cristina Hernandez about her role and passion for inclusion in the workplace. Link to article Cristina mentions in the episode: https://hbr.org/2021/12/connect-with-empathy-but-lead-with-compassion
Authenticity & Creativity in Hypergrowth Legal Environments - 3 Legal Ops Leaders Reflect 26.01.2023 31:57
Listen to legal ops leaders, Jenn McCarron , Jo Vong, and Sheena Ferrari discuss how they've leveraged creative outlets to inspire their work. The group also discusses how building confidence in showing up authentically has been a journey to fulfillment and success.
Scarred Not Scared – Leveraging Lessons Learned from CLM Failures 01.11.2022 43:35
In this episode CLOC Talk host, Jenn McCarron is joined co-host Tommie Ferreira , Director of Legal Operations at Peloton Interactive. Jenn and Tommie sit down with Chad Aboud , a former General Counsel at an international tech company and Colin Levy , Director of Legal and Evangelist at Malbek and get real about the failures and pains along the CLM implementation path. Their discussion covers: Le...
Driving Adaptable Change Through Storytelling (Live from London) 01.11.2022 41:20
Jenn McCarron leads the opening session at the 2022 CLOC EMEA Summit discussing the art of storytelling in professional contexts with Maurus Schreyvoge l and Emer Kelly . Listen to the group discuss driving change through a narrative arch. Act I - The Characters: Getting to know your protagonists and influencers. Act II - The Conflict: Understanding the and the hesitations. Act II - The Resolution...
Set Up for Success - Foundations of a Triumphant Legal Ops Career (Live from London) 01.11.2022 13:35
Jenn McCarron sits down with Legal Ops 101 speaker, Adam Becker and attendee, Camilla Berglund to discuss easy and early wins for the new legal ops professional. Their conversation covers: The objective of CLOC's Legal Ops 101 foundational training Leaning in and learning from the legal ops community Leveraging small moments to demonstrate your expertise A special thank you to our CLOC Talk Live f...
To Go Far, Go Together - Building Long-term Relationships with Your Outside Counsel (Live from London) 01.11.2022 20:06
Co-Host, Nick Cranfield discusses a genuine partnering approach that is needed to make a success of delivering innovative legal services with David Halliwell and Michael Zollner of Pinsent Masons Vario. Together they discuss: The market shift from transactional to transformational client and counsel relationships Establishing long-term plans and goals together Signs of successful relationships A s...
Hallway Conversations - Favorite Swag to Key Lessons Learned (Live from London) 01.11.2022 41:23
Co-Hosts Nick Cranfield and Jenn McCarron take you around the CLOC EMEA Summit hallways talking to attendees and sponsors. This episode will transport you to the center of the event action. Listen in to hear attendees discuss their favorite take-a-ways, both learning and swag. A special thank you to our CLOC Talk Live from London sponsors, Pinsent Masons .
Riffing on Mics with Mike - What's Wrong with CLM and Learning to Fly at Altitude in Legal Ops with Innovation and Storytelling (Live from London) 01.11.2022 18:35
Jenn McCarron sits down with Mike Naughton , Vice President of Marketing at legal tech startup, xMentium, to weave tales and tips on marketing, storytelling and reveal a slew of legal ops hot tips for success. Key takeaways include: The role of language in contracting Meeting Lawyers where they are, and wrapping service layers around the rest Take risks, take a point of view, take a guess, keep yo...
Real Talk with Jenn & Mary - London Edition (Live from London) 01.11.2022 18:15
Industry leaders, Jenn McCarron and Mary O'Carroll are back sharing their unfiltered thoughts and hot takes. Listen in to their chat on: What they're reading HOT TAKE: Where you should really start Why lawyers hate CLM Career paths A special thank you to our CLOC Talk Live from London sponsors, Pinsent Masons.
The Compassionate Leader - Preventing burnout with compassion, curiosity and community (Live from London) 01.11.2022 35:23
Jenn McCarron sits down with global recruitment strategy leader, and self-described Neurodiversity Warrior, Colin Minto to discuss the importance of compassion and understanding for leaders moving us into the future. Some tips discussed include: Use curiosity paired with compassion as a tool to understand your colleagues' individual struggles Understand people from an emotional index with active l...
Look How Far We've Come - Reflections on What Has Changed, and What is to Come for the Legal Ops Profession (Live from London) 01.11.2022 13:07
As the CLOC EMEA Summit wraps, Jenn McCarron sits down with CLOC EMEA Leader and Board Member, Aine Lyons to reflect on the journey and what lays ahead for the legal ops community. Topics discussed include: The growth of the profession The reality of driving change Mental wellbeing A special thank you to our CLOC Talk Live from London sponsors, Pinsent Masons .
We are All Scientists - A Conversation with the VillageMD Legal Department 01.09.2022 42:43
In this episode CLOC Talk host, Jenn McCarron is joined by new co-host Tommie Ferreira, Director of Legal Operations at Peloton Interactive. Jenn and Tommie sit down with VillageMD’s General Counsel, Wendy Rubas and members of their legal operations team, Legal Ops Lead, Demetrios Kirvassilis and Contracts Manager, Mical Tesfazghi Yibrah to discuss how they’ve built a team with diverse skill sets...
Leveraging Entity Management Software for the Legal Ops Role 18.07.2022 40:44
In this episode, CLOC Talk host, Jenn McCarron, is joined by Carl Morrison, Director of Legal Operations and the Cosmopolitan Las Vegas, Tom Stephenson, Director of Legal Operations at Credit Karma and Kyle Marks, Director, Customer Success at Athennian. They discuss why legal operations professionals can leverage a tech stack, and why entity management software should play an integral role in tha...
CLOC Talk Special Preview of the CLOC Global Institute Digital Experience 27.06.2022 9:21
This special teaser episode includes highlights from several episodes in the 2022 CGI Digital Experience . CLOC Talk host Jenn McCarron, member of the CLOC Board of Directors and Director of Legal Operations and Technology at Netflix, is joined by guest co-hosts Tom Stephenson, Director of Legal Operations at Credit Karma and Carl Morrison, Director of Legal Operations at the Cosmopolitan Las Vega...
The Art of the Possible Episode 3: The Evolution of Matter Management and How to Leap-Frog Your Strategy 04.04.2022 32:22
This episode is the final in a 3-part series we are releasing in collaboration with EY Law titled “The Art of the Possible”. In this conversation CLOC Talk Host, Jenn McCarron is joined by Eric Elfman, CEO at Onit, and Duc Tran, Senior Manager, EY Law – Legal Function Consulting, where the discuss they evolution of matter management and how legal teams can successfully implement and leverage it ac...
The Art of the Possible Episode 2: Enterprise CLM - Practical strategies for improving business performance 23.02.2022 36:10
This is episode 2 in the 3 part mini-episode series CLOC is releasing in collaboration with EY Law, titled The Art of the Possible. In this episode, CLOCTalk host, Jenn McCarron is joined by Barb Rogers , Vice President Global Contracts at Honeywell, and Kyle McNeil , EY Americas CLM Leader, where they discuss strategies for implementing an enterprise contract lifecycle management system inc...
The Art of the Possible Episode 1: How the Delivery of Legal services has Evolved in 2020 & 2021 25.01.2022 26:23
This is episode 1 in the 3 part mini-episode series CLOC is releasing in collaboration with EY Law, titled The Art of the Possible. In this episode, CLOC Talk host, Jenn McCarron discusses how the delivery of legal services has evolved throughout 2020 and 2021 with guests Kristi Gedid , Managing Director at EY Law - Legal Function Consulting and Alex Su , Head of Community Development at IronClad....
Special Episode - How to Fail Fast and Pivot 10.11.2021 34:55
This special episode of CLOC Talk includes a sample of the hit 2021 Virtual EMEA Summit Session, How to Fail Fast and Pivot: Lessons from the Legal Ops Front Lines. In this honest and impactful session, CLOC Talk host Jenn McCarron, Michael Grupp, Dan Yi, and Maurus Schreyvogel all shared a key moment of failure and how they learned and grew from it.
Progress Not Perfection - The Challenges and Opportunities of Leading Legal Ops in a Small Legal Team 30.08.2021 45:45
The legal ops profession has gained a reputation for being the scrappy, “make it happen” role within a legal team. This can have a major impact on small legal departments. In this episode of CLOC Talk, we explore challenges, opportunities, and advice for Legal Ops leads on demonstrating value. Join host Jenn McCarron in conversation with Stephanie Sciullo, Vice Presid...
Special Episode - 2021 State of the Industry Discussion 22.06.2021 43:38
This special episode includes a sample from the 2021 CLOC Global Institute State of the Industry session. CLOC Talk Podcast Host, Jenn McCarron, leads a discussion with CLOC board members Aine Lyons and Lisa Konie to discuss trends, thoughts, and insights from the state of the industry annual survey recently concluded with CLOC members. You can catch the full session on t...
Launching the New Ecosystem Community: Why CLOC? Why Now? 12.02.2021 17:08
In Febraury 2021, CLOC launched a major transformational initiative inviting the entire legal ecosystem to join CLOC and be part of the movement to progress the business of law. Jenn McCarron, Director of Legal Operations & Technology at Netflix sits down with Mary O'Carroll, CLOC Board President and Director of Legal Ops at Google and Betsi Roach, Executive Director at CLOC to dig into what t...
"How Did You Get Here”? 25.10.2020 35:00
In this episode, we are speaking with global leaders to hear their stories on how they got started in the Legal Operations field. A field that is multidisciplinary and draws professionals from various industries, roles, skills and educational backgrounds. Listen as Aine Lyons from VMWare and Kamala Vasagam from NBC Universal dive deep with Jenn McCarron from Netflix, sharing stories of light bulb...
The CLOC Core 12 - What is it, what’s changed, and how do I apply it? 25.06.2020 36:18
Legal operations is a fast-moving, evolving, and varied discipline. To be effective, legal operations leaders must engage in various areas – from setting budgets, to selecting priorities, to leveraging technology, and others. Listen as members of CLOC’s Board of Directors (Jason Barnwell, Mike Haven, Jenn McCarron, and Mary O’Carroll) discuss our revised framework for practicing legal operat...
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