The Ruins

EPISODE 29 Today, I am joined by Dr. Angela Parker, and talking with her about her new book, If God Still Breathes, Why Can’t I?: Black Lives Matter and Biblical Authority. We’ll also talk womanist theology, hermeneutics, and how inerrancy is a tool of white supremacy and authoritarianism used to oppress and control people. SHOW NOTES Dr. Parker's Twitter Dr. Parker's Facebook If God Still Breathe...

EPISODE 28 Today, I am joined by Sharifa Stevens, and talking with her about women in ministry, how we’ve mishandled Bible verses and used them to oppress women, and we as the church can reorient ourselves and learn to center women, specifically women of color, and build our theology from their perspective. SHOW NOTES Sharifa's Instagram Sharifa's Twitter www.sharifawrites.com Abuelita Faith- Kat...

EPISODE 27 Today we’re talking about how two Egyptian Midwives that set the stage for one of the most important moments in the entire Bible. We'll talk about Shiphrah and Puah, civil disobedience, and how we can model their subversive rebellion against violence and empire. SHOW NOTES Kat Armas- How Shiphrah and Puah Mock the Violence of Empire Dr. Wil Gafney- Womanist Midrash ABOUT Joseph and Nico...

EPISODE 26 We are joined by Nathaniel Green and having a conversation about his experience in and around mega-church evangelicalism. We’ll talk about the pitfalls of the mega-church, why people are leaving it, and what progressive Christianity has to offer us as we move into healthier and more liberating ways of doing faith, community, and theology. SHOW NOTES Nathanial's Instagram Nathanial's Twi...

EPISODE 25 Today, we're talking about a little shift happening on the Kings and Queens podcast! Tune in to hear more! ABOUT Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. To support us financially or find more info about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc . Patreon | Twitter | Instagram | Email

EPISODE 24 Today, we are joined by the amazing Irene Cho to talk about her experience in Youth Ministry and how we, as the church, can move out of spaces of toxic theology and abusive patterns of discipleship with our young people and move into liberating, inclusive, and empowering spaces of hope and love. This is SUCH a helpful episode, specifically for those who are currently working with young...

EPISODE 23 I am joined by my friend Kyle Cryan to talk about his experience in Bible college and the way he’s using his social media to give voice to those who’ve experienced harassment, discrimination, and abuse at Clarks Summit University. We’ll also talk about empathy and how film and art help us learn the heart of God for ourselves and others. SHOW NOTES #BSConfessional REAP LGBTQ+ The Critica...

EPISODE 22 Nicole and I share our story of spiritual abuse in Vancouver, Canada. If you have or are going through abuse of any kind, specifically in the church, know that we love you, you are not alone, and there is hope. The journey towards healing can be daunting, but we would love to be a friend and help you begin or continue that journey. Please feel free to reach out to us at: kqpodcast@gmail...

EPISODE 21 We are joined by an incredible friend, pharmacist, and low-key pastor, Dr. Eva Oriakhi, to talk about her experience in and around white evangelicalism, and how she helped lead a Coalition of Racial Justice in Portland, Oregon. We’ll also hear her thoughts on how we, as the church, can move out of spaces of white supremacy, patriarchy, and oppression, and into spaces of liberation, incl...

EPISODE 20 I had the opportunity to sit down with filmmaker, father-to-be, and former XXX Church employee, PJ Gal-Szabo, to have a conversation about the harmful and toxic narratives of purity culture. This was a really healing and restorative conversation for both of us and PJ has so much wisdom and insight to offer throughout the episode.  Note: This is a very honest and vulnerable conversa...

EPISODE 19 I recently got the chance to sit down with the incredible Darren Calhoun to talk about the recent Montero (Call Me By Your Name) music video by Lil Nas X that is making white evangelicals SO MAD, and hear his thoughts on how the future of the church can be one of liberation, inclusion, freedom, and celebration. SHOW NOTES DarrenCalhoun.com TheManyAreHere.com Love Greater than Fear by Th...

In our 18th episode, we’re talking about a few of the non-profits and partnerships that we support and are involved with here in Spokane. Since we are bivocational (only work at a church part time), we raise support to supplement our income. We thought we'd give our listeners a little glimpse into our vision for support raising and some of the organizations we love to partner with in our city. SHO...

In our 17th episode, we’re talking about grief in death, joy in celebration, and the importance of the work of racial justice. This episode was recorded in response to the recent passing of our Grammy Mavis. We love you, Grammy!! ABOUT Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. We are learning to embody the love of Jesus and host His presence in our h...

In our 16th episode, we’re talking about how our power and privilege can often lead to toxic theology and bad Bible reading. We'll look at how Jesus leveraged his power and privilege for the inclusion, affirmation, freedom, healing, salvation, and liberation for the people who were most marginalized, oppressed, abused, and rejected by society. Joseph shares a little bit about his journey with toxi...

In our 15th episode, we’re talking about our 2021 Rule of Life and answering the question “who am I becoming by what I am doing.” Our rule of life is a schedule and set of habits and relational rhythms that help us create space to be present to ourselves, God, and others, as we learn to abide in Jesus and become the best version of ourself. Essentially, it helps us dismantle my destructive rhythms...

EPISODE 14 In this episode, we’re starting a series of episodes centered around the topics of justice, white supremacy, white Evangelicalism, and how they all impact every area of our lives. We'll talk about what it's like to navigate these topics/conversations in majority white spaces and how we can begin the journey of justice in our own lives. SHOW NOTES Sarah Ngu's sermon "Quit Being An Ally"...

EPISODE 13 In this episode, we’re excited to be joined by our dad/father-in-law Dr. Dwight Peterson, as we talk about spiritual formation and what it’s like to still be in ministry in your 60’s. We'll discuss the challenges of growing up in a white evangelical culture and how millennials and boomers (and others) can co-exist and learn from one another. ABOUT Joseph, Nicole, Haddon, and Ivy are liv...

We’re talking about what we call “thin spaces.” These are times and places where Heaven and Earth seem uniquely close and God manifests Himself in a tangible and profound way. Nicole will share about her experience on Girl Trip where God met her in an incredible way. SHOW NOTES: Bible Project Video on Heaven and Earth Find out more about Girl Trip ABOUT: Joseph, Nicole, Haddon, and Ivy are living...

We are moving!! Goodbye Portland, hello... Washington?! In our 11th and final episode of Season 1, we’re going to give a little update on our life, talk about the next chapter in our ministry journey, and share how you can support us over the next few years! Visit www.thepetersons.cc for more info on where we're going and what we're doing. Visit www.patreon.com/thepetersons to find out more about...

We are taking a short break from our regular episodes and we're doing a mini series talking about Naming and Praying through Disappointment. In these 5 episodes, our goal is not to “free” ourselves from disappointment, but rather to learn how to process our disappointment before God in an emotionally healthy way that leads to our formation into the image of Jesus. If you’ve been experiencing any k...

We are taking a short break from our regular episodes and we're doing a mini series talking about Naming and Praying through Disappointment. In these 5 episodes, our goal is not to “free” ourselves from disappointment, but rather to learn how to process our disappointment before God in an emotionally healthy way that leads to our formation into the image of Jesus. If you’ve been experiencing any k...

We are taking a short break from our regular episodes and we're doing a mini series talking about Naming and Praying through Disappointment. In these 5 episodes, our goal is not to “free” ourselves from disappointment, but rather to learn how to process our disappointment before God in an emotionally healthy way that leads to our formation into the image of Jesus. If you’ve been experiencing any k...

We are taking a short break from our regular episodes and we're doing a mini series talking about Naming and Praying through Disappointment. In these 5 episodes, our goal is not to “free” ourselves from disappointment, but rather to learn how to process our disappointment before God in an emotionally healthy way that leads to our formation into the image of Jesus. If you’ve been experiencing any k...

We are taking a short break from our regular episodes and we're doing a mini series talking about Naming and Praying through Disappointment. In these 5 episodes, our goal is not to “free” ourselves from disappointment, but rather to learn how to process our disappointment before God in an emotionally healthy way that leads to our formation into the image of Jesus. If you’ve been experiencing any k...

In our fifth episode, we’re going to talk about how we Sabbath as a family. We’ll share our journey of Sabbath, talk about how to rest with young children, and offer some insight into starting your own Sabbath journey.