The Other 22 Hours

This is a special group episode - Caroline Spence, Erin Rae, Kelsey Waldon & Michaela Anne are all acclaimed singer-songwriters having individually played everywhere from The Grand Ol' Opry to Carnegie Hall to Bonnaroo and all over the world. Though they perform independently, they are in constant contact via a long-lasting (5+ year) text thread - forming a tight-knit community which is th...

Alice Gerrard, a member of the bluegrass hall of fame, released her first record in 1965 as part of her groundbreaking bluegrass duo with Hazel Dickens, and is still touring and releasing records today at the age of 89! We talk with her about her incredible longevity, how she has taught herself about bluegrass and old-time music, and about becoming such an integral part of the fabric of American f...

David Moore is a pianist, composer, and songwriter with many creative outlets, most notably his minimalist/ambient ensemble Bing & Ruth, which has put out records on 4AD and received praise from Pitchfork to Thom Yorke. We talk about his diverse creative appetites, writing retreats, the interconnectedness of everything, and embracing inevitable change in your creative processes as time passes....

Mary Bragg is an acclaimed songwriter, producer, coach, and on faculty at Berklee School of Music. We go deep on her songwriting process, cowriting dynamics, and how coming out opened up her creativity. Get more access, including exclusive content, advance knowledge of our guests and the ability to have them answer your questions, special workshops, and more by becoming a member of our Patreon, at...

Hiss Golden Messenger - the pseudonym for M.C. Taylor - has put out 14+ records since 2009 both independently and via Merge Records, including a Grammy nomination for Best Americana Record in 2019. We chat about the idea of creativity being tidal with ebbs and flows, how exercise and physical activity helps sustain creativity and touring stamina, and artists from The Grateful Dead to Public Enemy...

Elizabeth Cook has released 7 records, played the Grand Ole Opry 400+ times, hosts Apron Strings on Outlaw Country Sirius XM and Upstream on Circle TV, and is an occasional character on Squidbillies on adult swim (as Tammi). We talk to Elizabeth about her incredible diversity in her creative endeavors, her approach to creating in every facet of life, coming up in the Music Row publishing world and...

Rodney Crowell is the definition of a legendary songwriter - he has multiple Grammys, 15 #1 singles (5 from 1 record), and everyone from Emmylou Harris to Bob Seger, Waylon Jennings, and George Strait have recorded his songs. He is also incredibly wise, and generous with his insights - we talk with him about failures, using vision quests to reset and recenter, defining success, and how Guy Clark t...

Osei Essed is a film composer and songwriter who has scored films such as Crater (Disney), Unveiled: Surviving La Luz Del Mundo (HBO), The Lincoln Project (Showtime), and Period. End of Sentence (Oscar winner) as well as writing and fronting Brooklyn-based bands The Woes, and Big Hands Rhythm & Blues Band (Ropeadope Records). We talk about having goals and ambition but not being attached to th...

Mark Erelli has released over 16 albums, as well as being an in-demand sideman with the likes of Lori McKenna, Josh Ritter, Paula Cole, Amy Helm and others. We cover a lot of ground in this conversation, from how Mark reaffirms his commitment every day, to leaning on the combination of all of your experiences to get through tough situations, to how he learns from everyone he performs with, to the...

Becca Mancari is an indie folk artist who releases her own records and plays in Bermuda Triangle with Britney Howard (Alabama Shakes), as well as with Hayley Williams (Paramore). We explore the evolution of coping mechanisms, including changing your view of simple self-care as being weak, as well as the power of owning your entire creative process, and how shifting the language you use inwardly ca...

Leyla McCalla is a Haitian-American artist who releases records on Anti- Records, is a member of Our Native Daughters, and has been commissioned to create music in conjunction with research at  Duke University. We talk about how living an artistic life, and demonstrating that to a younger generation, is a strong form of societal change, how she juggles immense projects as a mother of three, and ho...

Lucius have released 4 records of their own, as well as appearing on records with the likes of Roger Waters, Jackson Browne, The War On Drugs, Brandi Carlile, John Prine, Sheryl Crow, to name a FEW. We talk about how they juggle this insane schedule, partnership and collaboration, how they've constantly morphed and reinvented all while (and because of) keeping a loyal team behind them, co-writ...

Joe Pug sold 20,000 copies of his first record after handing out free sampler CDs, and has gone on to be a DIY champion with multiple records and a successful podcast - The Working Songwriter. We talk intricacies of running a business as a creative, prioritizing your time and attention throughout the creative process, career longevity, and the lessons in Dante's Inferno. Get more access, inclu...

Lola Kirke is an actress/musician who was in Mozart in the Jungle, Winning time and others, and who's latest record "Woman for Sale" is out on Third Man Records. We talk about staying sane while juggling 2 different creative careers, how art is about giving not receiving, and what is counterculture. Get more access, including exclusive content, advance knowledge of our guests and the a...

Melanie Charles is a genre bending artist/songwriter/producer who's performed with artists from Wynton Marsalis to SZA. We talk about artist freedom, the power of curiosity and exploration, balancing advocacy and self-care, and solitude in your creative practice. Get more access, including exclusive content, advance knowledge of our guests and the ability to have them answer your questions, sp...

BJ Barham releases music as American Aquarium. We go deep on the power of sticking to it, mining the depths as inspiration, sobriety, and keeping everything in-house. Get more access, including exclusive content, advance knowledge of our guests and the ability to have them answer your questions, special workshops, and more by becoming a member of our Patreon, at this link. Links: American Aquarium...

Andrew Combs is an acclaimed singer-songwriter from Nashville via Dallas, with records released via New West, Loose Music (EU) and independently, and has toured with Shovels & Rope, Caitlin Rose, and NPR's Tiny Desk. We discuss how common stereotypes of artists are wrong and even detrimental, the healing and rejuvenating power of simply creating for the sake of creating, meditation, and so...

Emily Scott Robinson is a singer-songwriter with multiple records on John Prine's Oh Boy Records, and is a former social worker. Here we talk about the power of staying grounded in yourself and your needs, the endless hustle and grind culture of the business, validation addiction, mental health, and more. Get more access, including exclusive content, advance knowledge of our guests and the abi...

Shovels & Rope have released 9+ records, including collaborations with Brandi Carlile, Sharon Van Etten and more, have numerous late-night appearances and awards, and also started and curate High Water Festival. We talk with them about carving out time to be creative, having, growing and touring with a family, and the the unique strengths and vulnerabilities of creating in a partnership. Get m...

Kyshona is an acclaimed singer-songwriter, music therapist, and session singer. We talk about the importance of listening to yourself, carving out down-time for yourself, and the power of mission/artistic statements. Get more access, including exclusive content, advance knowledge of our guests and the ability to have them answer your questions, special workshops, and more by becoming a member of o...

Aaron Lee Tasjan is a Grammy-nominated songwriter, multi-record artist, and former member of bands such as The New York Dolls, Semi Precious Weapons, and Drivin n' Cryin. Here we talk about slowing down to do less more meaningfully, inspiration from finding alternate outlets for your creativity, and weathering tough seasons in life. Get more access, including exclusive content, advance knowled...

The Milk Carton Kids are a Grammy-nominated duo who have released 6+ records. We talk about defining what success looks like on your own terms, setting boundaries to open doors, record making, and plenty of tangents and laughs. Get more access, including exclusive content, advance knowledge of our guests and the ability to have them answer your questions, special workshops, and more by becoming a...

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