The Next Level

JVL sits down with Will Saletan to talk about his book on  The Corruption of Lindsey Graham.  It’s a *much* more free-flowing and philosophical discussion than I’d planned. If you’re game for a journey, you might like it. SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT: Next week's TNL will be streamed LIVE on YouTube on The Bulwark's main channel. Tune in May 17th at 3 pm EST to watch Tim, Sarah, and JVL record in the same...

Donald Trump is found guilty of sexually assaulting E Jean Carroll, but no one doubts he's still on a path to the top of the Republican ticket in 2024. The GOP is also sticking by Rep. George Santos after he was indicted by a grand jury on 13 criminal charges. They really know how to pick some good ones! Plus, what do our hosts think of President Joe Biden and Speaker Kevin McCarthy's standoff ove...

Tim sits down with Larry Wilmore to talk his career as a comedian, the Democratic party, race in America, and Vice President Kamala Harris on this week’s Sunday show. Plus, Tim and JVL discuss the killing of a homeless black man in New York City that has, once again, divided the country along party lines. The Bulwark is heading to the Big Apple for a night of politics, laughs and maybe even a few...

Today Bill Kristol is in for Sarah and he and JVL talk about CNN’s Trump town hall, the latest Ginni Thomas reporting, and the bizarre reaction of Conservatism Inc. to the ongoing Clarence Thomas story. To get the full episode—and The Secret Podcast every week—join Bulwark+. Go to: https://thesecretpodcast.thebulwark.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The OG trio is back this week to talk the latest poll of GOP primary voters. Spoiler alert: fighting “wokeness” matters, helping Ukraine does not. Plus, Ron DeSantis is imploding before our very eyes, while Trump’s campaign is actually running a coherent operation. Is a repeat of 2020 truly inevitable? And in Texas, the tragic murder of a family gets drawn into immigration politics, while Rep. Col...

Rep. Abigail Spanberger, a favorite of Never Trumpers everywhere, joins Tim this week to talk appealing to the middle, the battle of the debt ceiling, her career in the CIA (as much as she's allowed to say), what it's like being a mom while in Congress and much more! Note: This episode was recorded on April 24, 2023. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sarah and JVL talk about Montana Republicans kicking a trans Democrat out of the chamber, the E. Jean Carroll lawsuit, Nikki Haley’s death pool, DeSantis in Israel, Trump and debates. And then we close out with the scourge of participation trophies. To get the full episode—and The Secret Podcast every week—join Bulwark+. Go to: https://thesecretpodcast.thebulwark.com/ Learn more about your ad choi...

Both Tucker Carlson and Don Lemon have been kicked to the curb by their employers, leaving us political pundits to wonder what their next move means, and what the future holds for Fox and CNN, respectively. Plus, Ron DeSantis keeps sinking in the polls, while the primary field against Trump has almost evaporated. Will DeSantis even run? And is he trying to match Trump’s crazy by making it easier t...

Abraham Josephine Riesman, author of The New York Times bestselling book, Ringmaster , joins Tim and JVL to talk WWE wrestling and the latest attacks on trans Americans from the right. Plus, Tim and JVL talk the $5 million Mike Lindell has the pay for his disproven election fraud claims. Watch the gang record this episode here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0u9_tuy9V4 Learn more about your ad...

Sarah and JVL talk about Biden’s coming reelection announcement and DeSantis’s latest polling drop. Also: If Trump becomes the Republican nominee and you could wave a wand and have  any  person be the Democratic nominee, who would you pick? To get the full episode—and The Secret Podcast every week—join Bulwark+: https://thesecretpodcast.thebulwark.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podca...

Fox settled with Dominion Voting Systems for $787.5 million, at the expense of getting Tucker Carlson and Laura Ingraham to testify publicly. Was this the best or worst case scenario? Plus, with his stock in the 2024 presidential horse race sinking, Ron DeSantis picks back up his fight with Disney, threatening to build a jail next to Disney World. Anything beats taking on Trump directly, right? An...

Tennessee House Rep. Gloria Johnson joins Tim to talk the insanity that's happened in her state's legislature over the past couple of weeks. She details why she and her Democratic colleagues, Reps. Justin J. Pearson and Justin Jones, decided to take action after another school shooting in Nashville. Along with reacting to the racism her Republican peers and the conservative media have shown in the...

Sarah and JVL talk about MAGA’s new attack on the Great Republican Hope. And about the Heritage Foundation’s strange new respect for socialism. And more! Check out all The Secret Podcast episodes here : https://thesecretpodcast.thebulwark.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

UPDATE: Rep. Tim Scott revealed he was no longer a virgin in 2012, according to the Daily Mail . Donald Trump joined Tucker Carlson last night to lavish praise on genocidal Chinese President Xi Jinping, among other authoritarian world leaders. Plus, law and order Texas Gov. Greg Abbott plans to pardon a convicted murderer and Tim Scott launches his presidential campaign, while DeSantis waits in th...

Frank Bruni, veteran opinion writer for The New York Times, joins Tim and JVL on this week's Sunday show to talk Trumps indictment, his esteemed career, which includes covering the President George W. Bush's administration, the future of journalism, modern day challenges to free speech, and much more! Watch the gang record this episode here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XXMZkdu-M0 Learn more...

Sarah and JVL talk about the potential for Vivek Ramaswamy to fill the Ron Paul lane and how that could hurt DeSantis. And also Clarence Thomas and the burden of having close personal friends who just happen to be billionaires. Check out all The Secret Podcast episodes here : https://thesecretpodcast.thebulwark.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Trump's (first) indictment has finally arrived and the GOP is more (publicly) united behind him than ever before. The MAGA base demands loyalty, and even the so-called normies are falling in line. The gang also breaks down Democrats' big win in Wisconsin yesterday and if it's a bad sign for Ron DeSantis. Plus, everyone gives their take on the NCAA women's national championship tournament, as well...

Pulitzer Prize-winning author Junot Diaz joins the Sunday show to talk his career and the current political climate in America. They also get into his experience with cancel culture, and if it changed his view of the world. Plus, Tim and Sarah give their thoughts what the Trump indictment means for his re-election campaign. Watch the gang record this episode here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=...

Sarah and JVL go deep on the day everyone knew would eventually get here. Check out all The Secret Podcast episodes here : https://thesecretpodcast.thebulwark.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In the wake of the latest mass shooting in Nashville, the gang breaks down where the country stands when it comes to protecting our children from gun violence. They discuss whether the Republican Party has given up attempting to find an alternative solution to gun control, as well as the culture war fallout from the potential gender identity of the shooter. Plus, Donald Trump's insane rally in Wac...

The spectacular Jane Lynch (Glee, Party Down) joins Tim and Sarah this week, and turns out she's a huge fan of Never Trumpers! They discuss Donald Trump's indictment, Hollywood, cancel culture, and of course, gay stuff. If you've ever wanted to know if Sue Sylvester would support Trump or Ron DeSantis, you won't want to miss this episode! Plus, Tim and Sarah give their updated thoughts on Florida’...

Sarah and JVL talk about Ron DeSantis’s not-really-a-pivot on Ukraine, what it says about his campaign, and what we’re learning about him as a political commodity. Also: Why do the anti-antis hate the Never Trumpers above all others? Check out all The Secret Podcast episodes here : https://thesecretpodcast.thebulwark.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Donald Trump's indictment seems inevitable, but how long it will take before an arrest actually happens is anyone's guess. Regardless, Ron DeSantis has taken his first slight swing at his would-be rival, but he's just using Marco Rubio's failed 2016 playbook. Watch the gang record this episode here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8Fi-ikGsBw Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices...

Tim and JVL welcome Rep. Colin Allred to the Sunday show to discuss Rep. Jim Jordan’s bogus Weaponization of the Federal Government committee, his potential challenge to Sen. Ted Cruz, and his journey to the Tennessee Titans as an undrafted football player. Plus, how do you pronounce DeSantis? Tim and JVL debate, as even Meatball Ron doesn’t seem to know. Watch the gang record this episode here :...

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