The Next Level

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One week after the first GOP debate, nothing has changed and Trump is still dominant. Plus, conservative pundits now say Trump will get more Black votes because he has a mugshot, and DeSantis heads to Florida to deal with two tragic events. Sonny Bunch subs in for Sarah to discuss! View the Biden and DeSantis picture here : https://www.miamiherald.com/latest-news/il47u4/picture266923026/alternates...

Rep. Marie Gluesenkamp Perez pulled off a surprise win against Republican Joe Kent in the 2022 midterms, and since entering Congress has made a name for herself as a truly moderate Democrat. Tim asks her about progressives calling her a "Kyrsten Sinema wannabe" for her vote against student loan forgiveness, as well as the Democratic Party's struggles with working class, rural voters, and the congr...

Sarah and JVL catch up on the debate—about Nikki and Ron and Vivek. And about Trump’s mugshot. Warning: Sarah’s audio is a little wonky. The Secret Show is exclusively for Bulwark+ members. To listen to the rest of this show and gain access to all Bulwark+ member benefits (newsletters, podcasts and more!) sign up today at TheBulwark.com/secret .

Tim and JVL went live with Tom Nichols and Semafor's Ben Smith on The Bulwark's YouTube channel last night immediately after the first GOP debate. Listen to their first take reactions right after closing arguments ended! Watch the recording and subscribe to the channel to stay up to date on future livestreams here : https://youtube.com/live/MZep4APpcR4?feature=share

The gang talks the stakes for the GOP presidential candidates not named Donald Trump who qualified for the first primary debate on Fox News. Watch the gang record this episode here : https://youtu.be/V93uXEDayto

Robbie Kaplan, the lawyer who represented E. Jean Carroll in her civil suit against Donald Trump, joins Tim to discuss her win against the former president for sexual abuse. She also gives her opinion on the current indictments against Trump, including which one could go to trial before the 2024 election, and her Supreme Court case that helped pave the way for marriage equality. Watch Tim intervie...

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The gang plays a little game: What are the odds Trump a) Becomes president, b) Goes to jail, or c) Neither? Let us know what you think the odds are in the comments! Plus, another ignorant country song storms the charts, and Trump apparently DM'ed a lot of people on the app formerly known as Twitter. Watch the gang record this episode on our YouTube channel here : https://youtu.be/ChWTYpojUsY Learn...

Ever wonder how homelessness has gotten so bad in America? And why there appears to be no successful efforts to solve it? The Atlantic's Jerusalem Demsas joins Tim and JVL to answer every question they have about this massive problem. It's a truly in-depth discussion you won't want to miss! Watch the Tim and JVL interview Jerusalem on our official YouTube channel here : https://youtu.be/qCsd1O4-hd...

Sarah and JVL talk about the politics of Joe Biden’s Hunter problem and the game theory on whether or not Ron DeSantis should stay in the race. The Secret Show is exclusively for Bulwark+ members. To listen to the rest of this show and gain access to all Bulwark+ member benefits (newsletters, podcasts and more!) sign up today at TheBulwark.com/secret . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podca...

Tim recounts his trip to Iowa to watch GOP presidential candidates make their weak bids for the nomination over Trump, Including Ron DeSantis, who just replaced his campaign manager. And the so-called "pro-women's sports integrity" conservatives are relishing the U.S. women's soccer team getting knock out of the World Cup.  Plus, Ohio shuts down GOP attempts to make constitutional amendments (abor...

Country artist Amanda Shires joins Tim to discuss Nashville politics, abortion (including her life threatening ectopic pregnancy), being a liberal singer in a conservative genre, starting the all-female country group The Highwomen and more! Plus, Tim gives his thoughts on the latest arraignment of former president Donald Trump. Find Amanda's tour dates here : https://amandashiresmusic.com/ Loving...

Sarah and JVL talk about the latest arraignment. The Secret Show is exclusively for Bulwark+ members. To listen to the rest of this show and gain access to all Bulwark+ member benefits (newsletters, podcasts and more!) sign up today at TheBulwark.com/secret . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It's the latest indictment of former President Donald Trump, this time on the most dangerous charges yet: 2020 election interference. What will this mean for the 2024 race? What are the worst defenses of Trump's actions? Will Trump be put on trial during the general election? The gang breaks down all of this and more on today's The Next Level! Watch the gang record this video on our YouTube channe...

Ron Filipkowski joins Tim to talk his journey from lawyer to never-Trump political commentator. Together, they analyze the MAGA transformation of the party they once called home, lambast Ron DeSantis' attempts to peel off Trump supporters, and explain how he balances his day job with his constant tweets on conservative crazies. Watch Tim interview Ron here : https://youtu.be/0dLxCE86VuQ Learn more...

Sarah and JVL talk about Jack Smith’s superseding indictment, Hunter Biden not getting pardoned, Sarah’s new campaign, and Barbenheimer. It’s a pretty good show this week. The Secret Show is exclusively for Bulwark+ members. To listen to the rest of this show and gain access to all Bulwark+ member benefits (newsletters, podcasts and more!) sign up today at TheBulwark.com/secret . Learn more about...

DeSantis attempts to reboot his campaign with by firing a third of his staff, one of whom apparently made videos with Nazi symbolism. Plus, Kevin McCarthy teases an impeachment inquiry of President Biden, progressives turn on AOC, and a bizarre conservative ad makes it way online. Watch the gang record this episode on our YouTube channel here : https://youtu.be/UIQ-eZtkUxM For a podcast without ta...

Ben McKenzie ( The O.C. , Gotham ) joins Tim and JVL to talk his new book, "Easy Money: Cryptocurrency, Casino Capitalism, and the Golden Age of Fraud." They discuss his investigation into cryptocurrency during the COVID-19 pandemic, pushback from supporters of crypto, finding a fulfilling mission later in life, and his lifelong vendetta with Chad Michael Murray! Plus, Tim and JVL talk about the i...

Sarah and JVL dig into Ron DeSantis’s awful campaign reset and then try to figure out just what the No Labels people are thinking. Check out all The Secret Podcast episodes here : https://thesecretpodcast.thebulwark.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Trump and DeSantis had major interviews last night, and both were consumed by the former's third indictment yet. Trump doesn't even need to defend himself with DeSantis repeating all his talking points! Plus, Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin and former Republican Gov. Jon Huntsman tease with forming a "unity" ticket doomed to fail and put Trump back in the White House. And Mike Pence might not even qua...

Jen Psaki joins Tim and Sarah this week to talk what Biden needs to do to win in 2024, whether his age is an issue, her time in the White House, and the transition to hosting her own TV show on MSNBC. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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The key whistleblower the GOP has been touting as a smoking gun against President Biden, along with his son Hunter, has been charged with failing to register as a foreign asset for China. And Tucker Carlson plans to host a forum without Trump. Will it do anything to save DeSantis' floundering campaign? Plus, what do Trump 2016-Biden 2020 voters think of the state of the country? Will they be Trump...

Hot comedian on the rise Alex Edelman joins Tim to discuss his show, Just for Us , and its debut on Broadway, alongside Judaism, white nationalism, comedy itself, and why he's the reverse of JD Vance. Plus, Tim and JVL discuss Hunter Biden's secret child in Arkansas, and what President Joe Biden should do, both politically and morally. Just for Us plays at the Hudson Theatre on Broadway until Augu...