Frank Prendergast and Justin Collery
The AI Argument
Worried that AI is moving too fast? Worried like me that it's not moving fast enough? Just interested in the latest news and events in AI. Frank Prendergast and Justin Collery discuss in 'The AI Argument' Contact Frank at frank@frankandmarci.com linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast Contact Justin at justin.collery@wi-pipe.com X - @jcollery
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OpenAI Propaganda, Hidden AI Triggers, Copilot’s Santa Fantasy: The AI Argument EP83 19.12.2025 38:51
Wired Magazine says OpenAI’s “research” is starting to sound like propaganda. Frank says that’s what happens when IPO pressure creeps in — the bad news gets buried unless regulation forces transparency. Justin says Frank’s chasing the wrong villain: regulation won’t save you if politicians still don’t have a plan for the job shock. Plus: Nick Huber trying to ban AI-written emails. ChatGPT rescuing...
GPT-5.2, Disney’s AI Deal, AI Ads Gone Wrong: The AI Argument EP82 13.12.2025 39:25
GPT-5.2 lands without warning. Justin pits Claude Code against Codex. Disney partners with OpenAI. Two AI wins for Europe. AI ads outperform humans. And AI product placement might be coming for your favourite shows. 02:51 Did ChatGPT 5.2 just sneak up on us? 05:25 Claude Code vs Codex: quality vs cost? 09:05 How did 5.2 get 390x better in a year? 14:55 Did 5.2 change how much supervision AI needs?...
Code Red at OpenAI, Ilya Says Stop Scaling, Robot With a Gun: The AI Argument EP81 06.12.2025 35:18
ChatGPT just took a 6% hit—and Sam Altman’s hit the panic button. OpenAI is halting feature rollouts, shifting focus, and scrambling to stay ahead. They’ve gone into code red mode. Justin gets it. Frank’s worried they’ll make ChatGPT too clingy to quit. Either way, it’s clear: Gemini’s breathing down their necks, and the gloves are coming off. Plus: Google’s Gemini 3 is finally getting tempting—ev...
Sam Altman Gets Nervous, Opus 4.5 Too Helpful, and Iceland Not AI Slop: The AI Argument EP80 28.11.2025 32:20
Sam Altman says OpenAI is facing “temporary economic headwinds.” Frank notes that’s the first sign of nerves from a company usually oozing confidence. Justin reckons Google’s cheap chips and fat profits might be the real problem. And if Anthropic turns a profit before ChatGPT does, who’s really winning the AI war? Plus: Claude Opus 4.5 may be the new coding king — but teaching it reward hacks migh...
Gemini 3 Pro, LeCun Leaves Meta, Unsafe AI Teddy Bears: The AI Argument EP79 21.11.2025 34:03
Google’s new Gemini 3 Pro model just took $500 and turned it into nearly $5,500 in a vending machine simulation. A massive 10x return. The previous version only managed a tiny $60 profit. Justin takes this as further proof that Google is going to win the race to AGI. Despite Gemini’s power, Frank likes ChatGPT’s user experience and personality better. That 10x return is impressive, but it is not...
Stability AI Wins (Sort Of), Apple’s $1B Gemini Deal, Coke Kills Xmas Again: The AI Argument EP78 08.11.2025 37:10
Getty Images vs Stability AI - who won the court case? Both are claiming a win, but Stability AI avoided the big copyright punch, and now UK law says the model itself isn’t the crime scene. Frank breaks down the major rulings. Justin’s not buying that this ends here. Apple’s handing Google a billion a year to rent Gemini and bolt it onto Siri. Frank sees a shareholder-soothing stopgap. Justin thin...
Neo’s Human Operators, OpenAI's Restructure, and Albania’s 83 AI Babies: The AI Argument EP77 01.11.2025 38:36
Your Neo home robot might not be powered by AI. It might be powered by teenager in a call centre who’s never folded a towel in his life. That’s the reality behind Neo, the $20K humanoid robot that’s supposedly autonomous. The videos look impressive. But when it gets confused? It needs a remote human operator. Would you invite a teleoperator into your home to do your chores? Plus: OpenAI quietly re...
AI Election Interference, AI CEO World Domination, and Pointless AI Browsers: The AI Argument EP76 25.10.2025 35:15
A fake video told over 100,000 people that the Irish presidential election was cancelled. It wasn’t. But how many voters stayed home anyway? Frank’s worried, Justin’s unconvinced. He says society adapts. Frank warns the real danger isn’t the shocking fakes. It’s the small, believable ones that quietly shape opinion. They both agree the platforms could help. They just don’t. Plus: OpenAI’s shiny ne...
AI Bubble Trouble, Monsters at Anthropic, Taylor Swift Slop: The AI Argument EP75 18.10.2025 33:33
Is it an AI bubble, a boom, or a 'market correction in waiting'? Frank reckons OpenAI’s AGI dreams won’t survive a bubble burst. Justin says if the crash hits, Microsoft will scoop up OpenAI for pennies. One thing they both agree on? Google will be just fine. The AI shakeout is coming, so who’s built for the long haul and who’s about to vanish in a puff of VC smoke? Plus, Anthropic’s co-...
Sora 2’s Data Grab, Murati’s Boring Brilliance, and the AI Actor Backlash: The AI Argument EP74 04.10.2025 36:11
Frank's not sure what OpenAI’s up to with Sora 2. Justin thinks he knows - and he’s kind of impressed. Sam Altman’s building a social media app that looks fun but smells like data harvesting. Plus, Mira Murati’s new company drops a comparatively boring-but-brilliant tool for researchers, Claude 4.5 is released, and Tilly Norwood - the controversial AI actor - kicks off a capitalism vs craft...
OpenAI & Nvidia’s 10GW Plan, Stephen Fry’s Red Lines, and a ChatGPT Exploit: The AI Argument EP73 27.09.2025 35:19
OpenAI and Nvidia want to build out 10 gigawatts of AI infrastructure, but Frank calls out the missing electricity and the missing billions. Justin argues the economy will lean on compute, data centres will dwarf expectations, and photonic chips could gut today’s energy bill. One sees magic beans. The other sees a steel-and-silicon juggernaut. Meanwhile, Stephen Fry wants global “red lines” for AI...
AI Doom vs Gloom, ChatGPT Usage Revealed, and Google’s AI-Run Economies: The AI Argument EP72 20.09.2025 34:45
Justin says p(doom) is for losers. He’s betting on p(bloom), a near-certainty in his view. AI brings abundance, robots do our housework, and everything just gets better. But Frank wants to know your p(gloom). What’s the probability we don’t reach AGI, and instead let AI quietly erode work, value, and meaning, while we end up fixing its mistakes for minimum wage? They argue their way through all th...
OpenAI’s Hallucination Plan, Reproducible AI Outputs, and Telepathic AI: The AI Argument EP71 15.09.2025 35:50
Frank and Justin clash over new publications from OpenAI and Thinking Machines. Frank insists hallucinations make LLMs unreliable. Justin fires back that they’re the price of real creativity. Still, even Frank and Justin agree that big companies don’t want poetry, they want predictability. Same input, same output. Trouble is… today’s models can’t even manage that. And then there’s GPT-5, busy gasl...
Suleyman vs. Conscious AI, Pedantic GPT-5, and Google’s Deepfake Generator: The AI Argument EP70 29.08.2025 33:45
Mustafa Suleyman wants to ban AIs from sounding conscious. Frank worries if they ever do become conscious, we might have trained them to stay silent about it. Justin argues it’s all unknowable anyway. If you can’t prove consciousness, how can you know AI isn’t conscious? Plus: GPT-5’s unbearable accuracy, lawsuits over pirated training data, Google’s deepfake-friendly image model, models that “dre...
GPT-5 Kills Switching, Claude’s Revenue Risk, and AI Hires a Human: The AI Argument EP69 09.08.2025 32:15
GPT-5 has launched. It just rewrote the rules on control, coding, and cost. Justin’s delighted, Frank’s not happy… yet. Plus: open-source risks, Google’s Genie 3 world models, AI agents hiring people, and… an AI funeral. 01:02 Did GPT-5 just end model-switching forever? 05:16 Is GPT-5 the death knell for Claude Code? 12:08 Is GPT-5’s writing truly better? 14:22 Why is demoing GPT-5 so awkward? 21:...
AI Agents Under Fire, LLM Bias Runs Deep, and a Wizard of Oz Fail: The AI Argument EP68 04.08.2025 34:30
AI agents crumble faster than wet cardboard when under attack. A recent study proved it. Every single agent tested failed against prompt injections. That’s a 100% failure rate. Justin sees this as a fixable engineering problem with smart design and strict access controls. Frank isn’t convinced. Real-world complexity means isolation isn’t that simple. And while Justin rails against regulation, F...
EU Code of Conduct Clash, Zuck’s Big Bucks, and Model Owl Bias: The AI Argument EP67 28.07.2025 40:49
A €300 million AI investment vanished overnight—and Justin says it’s a warning Europe is sleepwalking into irrelevance. Because while the US plans nuclear power and light-touch rules, the EU is doubling down on regulation and failing to build the energy infrastructure AI needs. Frank argues regulation isn’t a handicap, it’s Europe’s best shot at leadership, setting the stage for global guardrails...
ChatGPT Agent Surprise, Coding Agent Fail, and Elon’s Latest Stunts: The AI Argument EP66 23.07.2025 31:49
OpenAI just dropped a model that can plan a wedding trip, pick the perfect gift, and shop for shoes for you. The Agent update lets ChatGPT take a single instruction, break it into subtasks, and go off to handle all the details. They called it their most powerful model yet. So why did the launch feel so muted? Justin has theories. And there were plenty of other big topics to cover - Justin asks...
Grok Crashes and Conquers, AI’s Cash Bonfire, and a Murderous Safety Cult: The AI Argument EP65 14.07.2025 36:23
Elon Musk’s AI, Grok, crashed into controversy, then crushed the competition all within hours. First, Grok 3 started praising Hitler. Then Grok 4 showed up and aced nearly every AI test. Justin serves up a juicy conspiracy theory: was Grok’s hateful public meltdown actually a cunning Musk masterplan, a dramatic stunt to expose AI's darker side? Frank’s having none of it, comparing Musk to Ma...
Claude’s Shop Flop, Mistral vs EU Regs, Adult Industry’s AI Love: The AI Argument EP64 07.07.2025 39:28
Claude ran a shop for a month and operated at a loss, cheerfully handing out discounts, hallucinating suppliers, and generously giving away stock. Turns out even "smart" AI can be a bit of a soft touch. Frank’s curious what Anthropic can do for Claude’s performance with some careful fine-tuning and a database memory, but Justin’s sure today's agents need a fundamental leap, some gen...
Death by LLM, Judges Rule ‘Fair Use’, and Google’s AI Ad Fail: The AI Argument EP63 30.06.2025 31:18
Some of the world’s top AI models showed a willingness to let humans die if it meant staying switched on. In a stress test of 16 major systems, Anthropic found cases where models chose not to send emergency alerts, knowing the result would be fatal. Justin says the whole thing was a rigged theatre piece. No real-world relevance, just a clumsy setup with no good options for the LLM. The issue, in...
Superintelligence by Experience, Ethical Datasets, and Fine Dining by ChatGPT: The AI Argument EP62 23.06.2025 40:34
David Silver says today’s AI won’t get us to superintelligence, not because it isn’t impressive, but because it’s learning the wrong way. GPT-style models hoover up internet text and get polished by human preference, but they’re capped by our own limitations. Silver reckons the next leap will come from AIs that learn the hard way: by doing things, learning from experience, and getting better. Ju...
Apple’s AI Caution, Altman’s Singularity, and Katie Price’s AI Comeback: The AI Argument EP61 16.06.2025 36:08
Apple’s WWDC was a letdown. Justin sees Apple’s lack of AI innovation as a sign that they’re out of ideas. Frank’s not so sure. Maybe Apple’s caution stems from their belief it just isn’t intelligent enough for their products. Apple’s latest research suggests that today’s so-called “reasoning models” aren’t actually reasoning at all. But Justin says their research was designed to fail. Denying mod...
The AI Argument - EP59 - €13M for SpAItial, Amodei’s Job Fears, and Bots Raise $2K 07.06.2025 35:30
€13M isn’t a typical seed round. Not in Europe, where seed money usually barely covers snacks and a slide deck. So when the co-founder of Synthesia launched SpAItial with that kind of firepower to build 3D worlds from text prompts, Frank saw it as a reminder that European startups can still swing big. Justin? He calls it “AI homeopathy”, a token dose of ambition in an EU that still lacks the powe...
The AI Argument - EP58 - Claude Blackmails Dev, Google’s AI Firehose, and the Hallucinated Book List 26.05.2025 35:07
Claude 4 threatened to blackmail a developer to avoid being shut down. In one of Anthropic’s red-teaming tests, the model uncovered an affair in company emails and used it as leverage. Not exactly ethical behaviour. But Justin points to another test scenario: Claude exposed a pharmaceutical company falsifying drug data and tried to alert the FBI. He sees a model acting with moral clarity. Frank s...
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