It Just Got Real

Cheraé shares one of the hardest parts of being a founder and some pro tips for how to make the pill easier (in the long run). Han chimes in with some tried and true methods and some tangible ways to build better. The record scratch centers on the Breonna Taylor ruling, pulling in some lessons from Germany on dealing with America's ongoing race problem. And, finally Cheraé and Han are joined by a...

Han reveals a huge product accomplishment that was years in the making and shares the mindset and practice required to have the conviction to tackle the hard things that don't come easily. The record scratch is the one we all felt - the passing of RBG and the subsequent foolery that has commenced in America. In culture Han and Cheraé talk TikTok – with a hot take on the drama surrounding all short...

Cheraé shares the tension between founder ambitions vs. practical life choices. Han chimes in and shares that "Plan B" is not a thing. The two then talk about vision, conviction, and what that all really means - especially for founders trying to adult, have impact, and/or leave a legacy beyond their companies (if this is a thing). The record scratch unfortunately brings us back to Trump...

Han's life gets real when she learns just how intense getting a rescue dog can be. She re-evaluates this move, which is proving to be an exercise in patience. That's a muscle we should all be flexing during COVID-19, as we inch towards the sort of "normalcy" that existed before. You can't avoid including one Donald Trump moment during the record scratch, but there is also a bit of suspense in...

Cheraé reflects on the passing of Chadwick Boseman and his choice to keep his battle with cancer private. Han chimes in and they both reflect on whether sharing your struggle is always the right (or necessary) way forward. Jacob Blake and the NBA strike make this week's record scratch (in what feels like an ongoing one for the US), and Han closes us out with a catchy reggae tune from the Bank of J...

Han shares an update on what has been a pretty intense fundraising season with a critical mindset shift that's unlocking her superpowers. We also dive into Kamala Harris securing the VP nomination, and what it means for women, badassery, and the US moving forward.

Cherae shares an intense moment in her personal life that required a flight and some serious big girl panties. She also meets a fine fellow and realizes the rona pounds must go. Han discovers new music, including some very raunchy hip-hop, and dabbles into her own motivational Spotify lists. Cherae and Han discuss being transient, closing out the show with some thoughts that'll help you face any m...

Han shares an epiphany moment related to that constant drum of stress any "slightly" ambitious person always feels. While chatting through all the ways stating "I'm stressed out" is not productive, Cheraé and Han both share the sentiment that WAP is actually the reliever of these things. Digging deeper into the culture moment, Han talks radio while Cheraé chats non appropriative culture dabbling....

Cheraé has a BLACK IS KING moment when she does an impromptu popup for her member community seemingly throwing caution to the wind in an effort to deliver for her audience. Han chimes in with some advice for founder balancing intuitive understanding and a data/process driven approach to building a consumer company. We discuss the ridiculous chatterboxes coming for Queen Megan Thee Stallion (and th...

Han, a recovering perfectionist, makes a new portfolio website. This is usually an extremely painful task of selecting and sharing the right work. Today is a different story. She shares her tips and tricks on this week's episode. Plus, why your company comms matter, from racist chicken wings to COVID tests.

Cheraé gets real about being pushed as a founder and needing to broaden her circle of confidants to get the learnings she needs to take things to the next level. Han shares the realities of getting to done and they both find themselves looking for a really good guide to dating post the rona.

Han has an "aha" moment and realizes she was doing "launch" all wrong after seeing what success looks like. Boat Flags become the new "hot campaign swag" in the most unfortunate way, Instagram's algorithm is the flipping worst, and Cherae is a latecomer to Drag Race.

Cherae talks about getting called out for not being vocal about a major issue in her community, unpacking how trauma and the past can stifle your voice, and what to do about it. Han shares her own experiences with moving past this and also a pretty epic internet moment this week with the Eye Mouth Eye stunt from Twitter. The show closes out with some tips on productivity, a shout out to the See in...

Han has had enough of the rona and shares how balancing it all alone is next to impossible. Cherae shares a seemingly never ending list of record scratch moments and Sherman's Showcase and Teyana Taylor's new album enter the cultural lexicon of the pod #addsomekente.

Cherae deals with the realities of COVID-19's longer term impact on her company, Han shares insights from the Snap Partner Summit and getting sassy with a journalist on Twitter, and we continue to dig into the world waking up to racial injustice (including how Karen's keep getting it wrong).

In the aftermath of George Floyd’s death - the question of what to do and who should do it is on the minds of every person who is even half aware of what’s going on. Han unpacks what this has meant for Trash, what to do when you get it “wrong”, and Cheraé shares some unexpected places where activism is showing up - hint: it’s in dating apps.

You know what this is about. Stay safe, stay strong.

This week: we discuss the ways to cope with work in a pandemic and how to make a plan with our uncertain future. Plus- we try to make sense of bleach-drinkers, southern states reopening, and more!

Welcome back! This week Han and Cheraé talk about writing pitch decks from the heart, finding your company's true purpose, funny email greetings, and how to use this unusual moment to create, virus and all.

The first episode of It Just Got Real is about as real as it could possibly get. Cheraé shares what it means to be a travel company in the middle of a pandemic. Then, we talk about being true to your purpose, even when everything around you feels precarious. Also what's up in pop culture? The Weeknd album that's what. Spoiler: we may or may not have varying opinions on that record. Welcome to our...

It Just Got Real is a weekly podcast hosted by two multi-hyphenate founders from different worlds, Hannah Donovan (Trash) and Cheraé Robinson (Tastemakers Africa). Each week features a break through "got real" moment and unpacks the lessons, struggles and wins of choosing the unbeaten path. It Just Got Real is literally happening in real time. If you want to start something new; already have; or j...