Steve Fretzin

BE THAT LAWYER

BE THAT LAWYER is for attorneys who want more freedom, enjoyment and most importantly, control in their career. Topics will include business development, marketing, branding, technology, and law firm growth. The goal is to educate, entertain and share best practices related to these topics, so that you, the listener can get real value. This is primarily an interview show with great guests (attorneys and legal marketing professionals), sharing stories and analogies, as well as engaging in personal discussions that will keep you entertained and coming back week after week.

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Autor

Steve Fretzin

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Business

Último episodio

22 de oct. de 2026

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Episodios

Nick Augustine: Escaping the Billable Hour Trap with Authentic Content and Smart Delegation 30.04.2026

In a world where lawyers are drowning in billable hours and generic marketing, this episode breaks down how to build an authentic brand, escape time traps through delegation, and use content strategically instead of reactively. Discover how small shifts in mindset and marketing execution can unlock both growth and a better life outside the office.   In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Nick Augustin...

I'Asia Scarlett-Jones: How Subscription Pricing and Niche Branding Transform a Law Firm 27.04.2026

Tired of the “fight to the death” model of family law? In this episode, you’ll hear how a modern family law founder rebuilt the divorce practice playbook with intentional branding, low-conflict strategy, and a subscription model that puts families—and profitability—first.   In this episode, Steve Fretzin and I'Asia Scarlett-Jones discuss: Origin story and career path into family law Mindset: oppor...

Frank Stephens: Closing the Cybersecurity Gaps Law Firms Ignore 23.04.2026

Cyberattacks against law firms are exploding, and most firms are far less protected than they think. In this episode, you’ll learn how to close the biggest security gaps, modernize your tech, and treat IT as a growth engine instead of a necessary evil.   In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Frank Stephens discuss: Technical debt and outdated systems in law firms Cybersecurity attack vectors and real...

Susan Guthrie: Turning Thought Leadership into Trust (and Clients) 20.04.2026

How can lawyers build genuine trust, stand out through strategic thought leadership, and future‑proof their practices with value-based fees and AI—all without burning out on marketing? Learn in this episode how you can move from winging it to working with a clear, repeatable plan for visibility, credibility, and consistent growth.   In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Susan Guthrie discuss: Strateg...

Omega Law Group: From Doing It All Themselves to Measurable, Scalable Growth 16.04.2026

Want to know how top law firms scale without losing culture or trust? Steve Fretzin sits down with the founders of Omega Law Group to reveal the systems, partnerships, and strategies that turn strong teams into high-performing firms.   In this episode, Steve Fretzin, Shahab Mossavar-Rahmani, Robin Saghian, and Edwin Saghian discuss: Measuring performance and managing by data Forming and sustaining...

Sarah Tetlow: Reclaiming Control By Designing Your Day And Defining What Matters 13.04.2026

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Sarah Tetlow discuss: Designing a legal career around fulfillment, not just ambition Managing time, attention, and workload with intentional systems Reframing legal work through project management thinking Reducing overwhelm by structuring email, tasks, and daily routines   Key Takeaways: Success without alignment leads to quiet dissatisfaction. Steve shares how...

Reid Zeising: Scaling By Letting Go And Leaning Into Leverage 09.04.2026

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Reid Zeising discuss: Letting experts elevate your business Streamlining operations to unlock scale Embracing AI as a force multiplier Releasing control and focusing on what matters most   Key Takeaways: You don’t need to master every discipline to build something great. Real growth comes from casting vision, staying close to the customer, and surrounding yoursel...

Danny Decker: Making The Client The Hero Of Your Marketing 06.04.2026

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Danny Decker discuss: Putting the client at the center Building your brand around real client needs Turning client questions into content Taking action and refining along the way   Key Takeaways: Strong legal marketing shifts the spotlight away from the lawyer and toward the client’s problems, emotions, and desired outcomes. Messaging that builds trust acknowledg...

Brian LaCien: Growing Your Practice Through Relationships 02.04.2026

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Brian LaCien discuss: Building systems that create consistency Growing your practice through relationships Learning through mentorship and mistakes Knowing when to push and when to stop   Key Takeaways: Every case is different, but your process should not be. Strong systems like checklists and workflows help you stay organized and reliable, especially in long and...

Megan Hargroder: Building Trust That Converts 30.03.2026

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Megan Hargroder discuss: Building trust over chasing tactics Positioning with clarity and specificity Showing authenticity to attract the right clients Using story and proof to strengthen credibility   Key Takeaways: Modern marketing is shifting away from quick SEO tricks toward real human engagement. When people genuinely connect with your content and stay on yo...

Armando Leduc: Podcasting as a Growth Engine for Lawyers 26.03.2026

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Armando Leduc discuss: Building authority through podcasting Overcoming mindset barriers Leveraging content strategically Maintaining consistency for compounding impact   Key Takeaways: Hosting a weekly podcast allows lawyers to create a systematic referral network, strengthen relationships with industry partners, and position themselves as trusted authorities ov...

Brian Hansen: Strategy, Niches, and Results for Law Firms 23.03.2026

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Brian Hansen discuss: Planning before marketing Specializing in impact Prioritizing practical channels Using AI and content wisely   Key Takeaways: Lawyers should focus on strategy, clear goals, and growth plans before jumping into ads or SEO. Thinking like a business owner prevents reactive, scattered efforts. Narrowing focus to niches ensures higher-quality res...

Owili Eison: Owning Your Career in the Modern Legal Market 19.03.2026

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Owili Eison discuss: Thinking like an intrapreneur, not just an employee Balancing legal skill with business development Networking intentionally to build referral pipelines Using technology and AI to stay competitive   Key Takeaways: Lawyers who rely entirely on their firm for work risk having little control over their future. Building a personal brand, developi...

Colleen Young: Turning Marketing Into Real Clients 16.03.2026

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Colleen Young discuss: Building trust through consistent visibility Growing through relationships, referrals, and the right fit Aligning marketing and intake to convert the right clients Using time and resources more strategically   Key Takeaways: Consistent marketing builds recognition and credibility over time. Because legal services are intangible and high-sta...

Robert Hartmann: Building Rainmaking Skills 12.03.2026

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Robert Hartmann discuss: Taking ownership of the business of law Building rainmaking skills through empathy and responsiveness Preparing for independence before you need it Networking strategically, not randomly   Key Takeaways: Law school prepares lawyers for doctrine, not for marketing, leadership, or running a practice. Lawyers must take responsibility for lea...

Leah Miller: Run Your Firm Like a CEO 09.03.2026

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Leah Miller discuss: Run your law firm like a business, not a hobby Use accurate financials to avoid hidden risks and overpayment Track key metrics and benchmarks for people, operations, and marketing Leverage metrics to make strategic growth decisions   Key Takeaways: Long-term growth requires regular attention to financials. Cash in the bank is not a strategy;...

Gary Miles: Breaking Free in Law, Mastering Fear and Freedom 05.03.2026

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Gary Miles discuss: Facing fear with clarity Owning your internal authority Focusing on the process, not the outcome Building freedom through micro-shifts   Key Takeaways: Fear is common in legal careers, often hidden behind competence. Recognize that much of it is imagined, not reality. Facing it openly allows lawyers to act with clarity and confidence. Internal...

Josh Hodges: Building Community-Focused Legal Excellence 02.03.2026

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Josh Hodges discuss: Turning challenges into determination Finding opportunity in small markets Building influence through consistency and service Leading with accountability and learning   Key Takeaways: Unconventional paths and high-stakes personal challenges build resilience and drive. Success becomes non-negotiable when urgency is present. Leveraging local co...

Brooke Lively: Mastering Law Firm Leadership and Execution 26.02.2026

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Brooke Lively discuss: Recognizing that law firms must master the business of law Prioritizing rocks before everything else Building culture through the right people and real accountability Understanding personal wiring and stage fit   Key Takeaways: Law school teaches legal doctrine, not leadership, systems, or execution. Firms that struggle often lack clear vis...

Sarah Persich: Buying Back Your Time Through Systems and Automation 23.02.2026

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Sarah Persich discuss: Investing time instead of just spending it Fixing systems before layering on automation Building a connected tech stack that talks to itself Using AI strategically while managing risk   Key Takeaways: High-performing firms focus on building systems that multiply their time rather than endlessly grinding through tasks. Automation, documented...

Evelyn Ackah: Creating A Team of Dream Builders 19.02.2026

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Evelyn Ackah discuss: Reframing challenges as opportunities Building security through owning your book of business Designing a firm around delegation and technology Protecting culture by hiring and leading with intention   Key Takeaways: Success begins with asking whether challenges are happening to you or for you. A growth-oriented mindset is not optional for en...

Ted DeBettencourt: The Human Advantage in Legal Intake 16.02.2026

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Ted DeBettencourt discuss: Making prospects feel heard before they hire Fixing intake as the real growth lever Optimizing website conversion channels Adopting a builder’s mindset in business development   Key Takeaways: Emotional needs matter as much as legal expertise when someone is choosing a lawyer. If prospects do not feel listened to or cared for, they cont...

Colleen Breems: Why Niching Down Creates More Opportunity 12.02.2026

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Colleen Breems discuss: Letting a niche form over time Earning trust through depth and preparation Using competence as the foundation of marketing Positioning intentionally with the right relationships   Key Takeaways: Niching down is a gradual process shaped by consistency, passion, and earned trust. Being focused does not require rejecting all other work, only...

Tom Conner: Reputation Is the Business 09.02.2026

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Tom Conner discuss: Treating note-taking as professional insurance Using discomfort to set daily priorities Choosing relationships as the foundation of business development Letting character determine long-term success   Key Takeaways: Relying on memory is a gamble, especially when ideas, tasks, and details arrive constantly. Writing everything down ensures nothi...

Jennifer Gillman: How to Become a Happy Rainmaker Early 06.02.2026

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Jennifer Gillman discuss: Building rainmaking as a sustainable, early-career practice Shifting mindset to overcome fear and unlock visibility Using small, consistent actions to compound business development Gaining autonomy by moving from service partner to rainmaker   Key Takeaways: Becoming a happy rainmaker is not a late-career scramble but a long game that sh...

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