CLOC Talk

This episode features an energizing conversation with Maria Pedroza and Gabrielle Silva , who share their journey building the CLOC Spain community and the importance of staying connected, curious, and collaborative in legal operations. They give us a preview of what's ahead for the chapter—including next year’s event—and discuss how regional leadership can shape global impact. Follow Maria, Gabri...

In this episode of Clock Talk , hosts Janessa Nelson and Nataly Kian sit down with Curtis Brewer, CEO of Litify, to explore how legal departments can transform their approach to spend and matter management. Curtis breaks down what it means to “move upstream from the invoice,” why it’s critical for modern legal ops, and how data, analytics, and AI are reshaping the future of the legal industry. Fro...

In this episode of Clock Talk , hosts Jeremiah Kincannon and Tanya Voda sit down with leadership and DEIB expert Reggie Butler for a thought-provoking conversation about belonging, connection, and humanity at work . The discussion explores: The role of curiosity and empathy in leadership How to foster a sense of belonging across teams and organizations The difference between scarcity and abundance...

In this episode, Irene Liu, former General Counsel turned Hypergrowth GC coach, joins the conversation to share her career journey from the DOJ and FTC to leadership roles at Blackberry, Lookout, Checker, and Hopin. Along the way, she took on finance responsibilities, giving her a unique perspective on how legal teams can demonstrate their value beyond traditional expectations.    The di...

In this special episode of CLOC Talk, we take you to the 2025 CGI mainstage with the recording of our Powerhouse Perspectives panel discussion. In this thought-provoking discussion, moderator Aine Lyons dive into challenges and opportunities AI presents for legal, with panelists Karen Gally, Eric Dodson Greenberg, and Casey Flaherty. They explore key insights from McKinsey and Deloitte reports, di...

Legal services are evolving fast, and AI is playing a major role in reshaping how teams work. In this episode, Mark Ross, Kami Paulsen, and Rich Levine join host, Jeremiah Kincannon , to break down the shifting landscape from the rise of multidisciplinary expertise to the practical impact of AI on workflows, compliance, and hiring. The discussion covers what legal teams need to do to stay competit...

Big changes don’t always require big budgets. In this episode, An Trotter, Senior Director of Operations at Hearst, joins hosts Jeremiah Kincannon and Janessa Nelson to share how legal teams can make impactful improvements by maximizing internal resources. From deploying e-signatures at no extra cost to building an in-house CLE program with creative solutions, An breaks down the strategies that he...

Legal operations don’t look the same everywhere, and in this episode, Flavia Furlan shares her firsthand experience navigating the field in Brazil. Moderated by Jeremiah Kincannon , with insights from Louisa Toy , the conversation explores the cultural and procedural differences between legal functions in Brazil and the U.S., the resourceful strategies teams use to drive innovation, and the power...

Steve Harmon went from doubter to champion in the legal ops world, and in this episode, he joins Jenn McCarron to reflect on a decade of transformation. From early skepticism to measurable success, Steve unpacks the key moments that shaped legal operations including hard lessons, hiring trends, and the influence of industry. They explore how the field grew from a scrappy group to a powerhouse and...

We all know egal operations is evolving fast, and AI is changing the game. In this episode, Greg Bennett joins hosts Jeremiah Kincannon and Janessa Nelson to share lessons learned from his career where he has helped rethink legal processes with bold, creative solutions. The conversation explores the importance of soft skills, strategic risk-taking, and the power of asking the right questions in a...

Legal departments are more than just support functions—they’re strategic powerhouses. In this episode, Eric Greenberg, General Counsel of Cox Media Group , joins co-hosts Jeremiah Kincannon and Janessa Nelson to explore how legal teams can drive company value, even in resource-constrained environments. The conversation covers negotiation tactics, policy strategies, and the role of empathy and soft...

AI is reshaping legal operations, but what happens when technology breaks down barriers beyond just efficiency? In this episode, Andre Barrow from DeepL joins Jeremiah Kincannon on the CGI Exchange Stage to explore how AI-powered language tools are making global collaboration smoother and more effective. The conversation digs into the mindset shift required to embrace AI in an industry slow to ada...

Great presentations don’t just happen, they’re crafted. In this episode, Jenn McCarron sits down with 2025 CGI keynote, Nancy Rademaker and her colleague, Mandy Schild from The Speakers Club to break down the essential elements of powerful communication. The conversation explores how to balance content, design, and delivery to keep audiences engaged, whether in-person or virtually. They discuss th...

From a pandemic-born idea to a thriving conversation hub, CLOC Talk Live has hit 100 episodes! In this special milestone edition, Jenn McCarron is joined by David Cambria and Matt Rubbelke to reflect on the journey of legal operations, technology, and community-building. They dive into the evolution of legal tech, the power of mentorship, and the growing influence of AI, while exploring how legal...

Start your day with an audio guided meditation by Lisa Konie. Thank you to our wellness sponsor, Spotdraft.

Start your day with an audio guided meditation by Lisa Konie. Thank you to our wellness sponsor, Spotdraft.

Start your day with an audio guided meditation by Lisa Konie. Thank you to our wellness sponsor, Spotdraft.

In this special episode of CLOC Talk, recorded live from the CLOC EMEA Summit in London, Rachel St. Peter , Global Head of Legal Operations & Functional Excellence, Nestlé and member of our EMEA Advisory Committee, leads a panel discussion on the future of the legal ops profession with Kristin Zmrhal , Vice President of Product Strategy at DISCO, and Melissa Sauser , Legal Tech Manager for Phi...

In this episode of CLOC Talk, recorded live from the CLOC EMEA Summit in London, Jenn sits down with closing keynote speaker, Helena Boschi , Psychologist, Speaker, and Educator at Chequered Leopard.  They chat about leading teams to a healthier, more innovative future. From learning new skills to mastering the art of daydreaming, Helena shares insights on how divergent thinking can spark cre...

In this episode of CLOC Talk, recorded live from the CLOC EMEA Summit in London, Jenn sits down with Sam Ross , Chief Legal Officer at Remote.   Sam shares his intriguing past as a member of a boy band and his thoughts on transitioning from music to legal operations. They chat about Sam's approach to hiring, emphasizing the importance of hunger, curiosity, and pragmatism over specific ex...

In this episode of CLOC Talk, recorded live from the CLOC EMEA Summit in London, Guest Host, Lewis Bretts , Partner at PwC chats with Alisha Andert , co-founder of This Is Legal Design and chairwoman of the German Legal Technology Association.   Alisha shares her journey from traditional law into the field of legal design, her passion for innovation, and her work with legal technology co...

In this episode of CLOC Talk, Jenn sits down with Nancy Rademaker , Co-Founder of Drawify & Speakers Club, and our brilliant opening keynote at our EMEA 2024 Summit in London.   They discuss how AI can solve business challenges by improving efficiency and reducing manual tasks, as well as the importance of identifying the right problems before deploying AI solutions.  &nbsp...

In the episode of CLOC Talk, guest host Jeremiah Kincannon chats with Justin Schweisberger, Chief Revenue Officer at Pramata and Kari Walden, Assistant General Counsel at Jack Henry about strategic planning in legal operations.   They explore the importance of aligning legal operations with company strategy.  And, share hurdles and successes, like improving sales contract processes...

In this episode of CLOC Talk, guest host Jeremiah Kincannon , advisor on CLOC’s Voice and Brand Council chats with CJ Nicastro , Program Manager, Global Affairs & Legal Strategy Operations at Google and Scott Rosenberg , Managing Director & Corporate Counsel at Unbiased Consulting, LLC, both co-chairs of the CLOC Legal Project Management Committee.   They discuss the relevance an...

This special episode of CLOC Talk comes straight from the main stage of our APAC Summit 2024 in Sydney. It features a closing panel discussion on how generative AI is influencing legal ecosystems. Moderated by Terri Mottershead , Executive Director at Centre for Legal Innovation, the participants engage in a lively debate over whether AI will fundamentally change pricing models for legal services....