The Pomp Podcast

Jordi Visser is a veteran macro investor with 30+ years of experience and the author of the VisserLabs Substack. In this conversation, we break down why hedge funds are blowing up, the lessons from LTCM, and how tokenization could reshape the entire industry. We also discuss why bitcoin is holding strong, why CPI doesn’t matter anymore, whether Anthropic’s growth is slowing, and Elon’s flying car....

Eric Jackson is the founder of EMJ Capital and the investor behind the high-profile Carvana and Opendoor calls. This was recorded live at the Silvia Investor Summit in New York. In this conversation, we break down the rise of the retail investor, how he uses AI in his research, and what he saw inside Hut 8’s massive AI data center campus. We also discuss his AI-powered bitcoin model, when to sell,...

Ryan Cohen is the CEO and Chairman of GameStop and the co-founder of Chewy. This was recorded live at the Silvia Investor Summit in New York. In this conversation, we break down how AI is changing work and hiring, his concerns about where humans fit in an automated future, and the rise of the retail investor. We also discuss Neuralink, how he talks to shareholders, his biggest failure, and the leg...

Chris Camillo is a self-taught investor known for pioneering social arbitrage investing and the host of Dumb Money Live. This was recorded live at the Silvia Investor Summit in New York. In this conversation, we break down his $10M one-day Amazon options trade, how AI corrupted Google Trends data, and why retail investors underuse leverage and concentration. We also discuss humanoid robotics, auto...

Jordi Visser is a veteran macro investor with 30+ years of experience and the author of the VisserLabs Substack. In this conversation, we break down the coming “bankpocalypse,” why AI agents will disrupt banks and big tech, and whether AI models are becoming commoditized. We also discuss the bitcoin setup, crypto’s shift from contrarian to consensus trade on Wall Street, and how to separate signal...

Bill Barhydt is the founder and CEO of Abra. In this conversation, we break down why bitcoin is climbing despite rising rates and macro headwinds, where its next wave of demand will come from, and how the debt spiral drives inflation. We also discuss AI agents, the future of wealth management, tokenized yield, and how Abra is building a neo-banking stack for crypto. ===================== Arch Publ...

Simon Dixon is an early Bitcoin investor and the co-founder and CEO of BnkToTheFuture, which backed companies like Coinbase, Kraken, and BitPay. In this conversation, we break down who really controls global capital, how Wall Street is co-opting bitcoin, and what the Coldcard hack means for self custody. We also discuss AI, surveillance, data centers, the K-shaped economy, and why sovereignty will...

Hunter Biden is an attorney, artist, writer, and the son of former President Joe Biden. In this conversation, we break down why he believes in bitcoin, the problem with money printing, and his biggest critiques of both the Biden and Trump administrations. We also discuss his recovery from addiction, AI, the launch of his Laptop token, and whether he would ever run for President. ==================...

Jordi Visser is a veteran macro investor with 30+ years of experience and the author of the VisserLabs Substack. In this conversation, we break down why the macro doomers are wrong about rates, whether OpenAI and Anthropic are slowing down, and why the explosion of personal AI agents needs crypto rails. We also discuss Wall Street's growing crypto FOMO, the bitcoin setup heading into Q4, and what...

Dan Ives is a Partner and Senior Managing Director at Yorkville Ives. In this conversation, we break down where value is building in the AI trade, Dario's warnings about AI, regulatory capture, and whether OpenAI and Anthropic are in more trouble than people realize. We also discuss the White House AI meeting, sovereign AI, the US vs China race, and his new Ives Ultra Fund. ===================...

Tillman Holloway and Andrew Parish are the co-founders of Arch Public. In this conversation, we break down how AI agents and bitcoin are converging, why bitcoin is the best collateral in the world, and what 24/7 markets will mean for investors. We also discuss bitcoin ETF flows, Wall Street's growing role in bitcoin, and why AI trading tools still need a human in control. =====================...

Christopher Zook is the founder, chairman, and CIO of CAZ Investments and co-author of “The Holy Grail of Investing” with Tony Robbins. In this conversation, we break down how to build a diversified portfolio in a rapidly changing world, why CAZ invests in the picks and shovels of crypto, and the rise of neoprimes in space and defense. We also discuss the scarcity behind bitcoin, sports teams, and...

Jordi Visser is a veteran macro investor with 30+ years of experience and the author of the VisserLabs Substack. In this conversation, we break down why bitcoin keeps holding up through bad news, whether Wall Street FOMO is coming for crypto, and how consumer AI agents are reshaping markets. We also discuss BlackRock's AI and crypto paper, Visa and Mastercard, compute, tokenization, and the bitcoi...

Darius Dale is the founder and CEO of 42 Macro. In this conversation, we break down whether Scott Bessent is bluffing the bond market, why stocks keep hitting highs, and why balancing the budget may be impossible. We also discuss the K-shaped economy, AI, bitcoin, and America's political realignment. =================== Arch Public is an agentic trading platform that automates investment strategie...

Chris Kelly is a co-owner of the Sacramento Kings, founder of Kelly Investments, and a former Facebook executive. In this conversation, we break down why he owns bitcoin, how sports teams and bitcoin both work as scarce assets, Meta's big AI bets, and where AI and crypto are converging. We also discuss Sports One, his new venture bringing minority sports team stakes to the public markets. ========...

Jordi Visser is a veteran macro investor with 30+ years of experience and the author of the VisserLabs Substack. In this conversation, we break down why bitcoin and stocks refused to crash even as the Fed hiked rates, why AI agents are now driving crypto's next leg higher, and why the real "AI bubble" lives inside just two companies. We also get into Andrew Yang's bombshell AI la...

Jay Jacobs is the US Head of Equity ETFs at BlackRock. In this conversation, we break down the real impact of the bitcoin ETFs on adoption, why bitcoin's volatility has compressed, and how institutions and everyday investors are approaching digital assets today. We also dig into AI as a macro market force, the entire AI value chain from power to chips to data centers, and where the ETF industry go...

Logan Kilpatrick is a member of the technical staff at Google DeepMind. In this conversation, we break down whether Google is actually behind in the AI race, the strategy behind Gemini 4's massive pre-training run, and how DeepMind decides between chasing general intelligence versus building specialized products. We also discuss China's open-source AI labs and why measuring real progress toward AG...

Zac Prince is the Managing Director at Galaxy Digital and the co-founder and former CEO of BlockFi. In this conversation, we break down what really happened at BlockFi's collapse, the fraud behind FTX and Alameda that he witnessed firsthand, and the lessons he's applying to risk management today. We also discuss Galaxy One's banking, crypto, and yield products, and what the future of i...

Jordi Visser is a veteran macro investor with 30+ years of experience and the author of the VisserLabs Substack. In this conversation, we break down the timing for the next bitcoin bull market, why the Clarity Act could send bitcoin to $100K, and how AI's exponential progress is leaving the market mispriced. We also discuss the Fed's rate decision, the Trump-Bessent-Warsh alignment on AI and crypt...

Chase Koch is a member of the Koch family and leads Koch Disruptive Technologies at Koch Industries, one of the largest private companies in America. In this conversation, we break down the 41 principles behind Koch's management system, the values-first hiring philosophy that's helped grow the business 10,000x, and the story behind acquisitions like Molex and Georgia-Pacific. We also discu...

Justin McAfee is an AI researcher at Delphi Digital. In this conversation, we break down why Chinese AI labs are closing the gap with America's frontier models, the innovations forced by US export controls, and the pricing war now squeezing OpenAI, Anthropic, Meta, and Google. We also discuss the race in humanoid robotics, whether AI can ever solve financial markets, and how the US should resp...

Jordi Visser is a veteran macro investor with 30+ years of experience and the author of the VisserLabs Substack. In this conversation, we break down why rising interest rates may not derail the AI-driven economy, bitcoin's path to new highs and the four-year cycle debate, and how AI agents are already reshaping markets, business management, and crypto adoption. We also cover tokenization, portfoli...

Jordi Visser is a veteran macro investor with 30+ years of experience and the author of the VisserLabs Substack. In this conversation, we break down bitcoin's historic recovery and the key levels that matter, the fight between Kevin Warsh and Scott Bessent over interest rates, and why Jordi is rotating more of his money into Ethereum and Solana. We also discuss AI agents, tokenization, and just ho...

Arthur Hayes is the CEO of Flop Labs and CIO of Maelstrom. In this conversation, we break down Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent's money printing playbook, the controversy around Stanley Druckenmiller's AI-written op-ed, and why bitcoin got overshadowed by the AI trade in 2025. We also discuss gold's next move, how Arthur allocates across bitcoin, gold, and public equities, and his new project toke...