Dart Lindsley

Work For Humans

Business EN ↓ 215 episodes

Too often business leaders are forced to choose between the needs of their company and the needs of their employees. It’s a lose/lose scenario leaving managers burned out and workers seeking other opportunities. At Work for Humans, we believe work can be designed differently. When you design work like products people love, your company wins. Work becomes irresistible, employees passionately buy into their roles every day, and your company takes measurable strides towards your vision.

Author

Dart Lindsley

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Business

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dartlindsley.com

Latest episode

Jul 7, 2026

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Episodes

Designing Work for Humans: Organizational Design with Humans in Mind | Stephanie Gioia and Melanie Kahl 27.08.2024

Work for Humans has always been about designing with the employee in mind, but many designers mistakenly focus on objects rather than the actions those objects should create. This leads to falling back on traditional roles and routines when there is actually more choice out there. Inspired by the power of designing for action instead of things, WFH connected with Stephanie Gioia and Melanie Kahl—t...

In-Between Spaces: Where Designers Go Wrong When Creating Workspaces for Humans | Blaine Merker and Alice Katter 20.08.2024

Architecture has traditionally centered on buildings, often overlooking the most crucial element—people. Urban designer Blaine Merker sees this as a missed opportunity. As Partner, Director, and Head of Climate Action at the Gehl research consultancy, Blaine aims to shift the industry’s focus. By guiding companies to adopt community-centered design practices, he’s working to transform urban spaces...

How the Future Works: What We’ve Learned from 4 Years of Remote Work Experiments | Brian Elliott 13.08.2024

Remote, hybrid, and from-home work options are here to stay, but there’s more to work flexibility than just location. Leadership advisor and author Brian Elliott has found that most employees want more control over their work, from when they work to how their success is measured; It’s time to redefine and fully embrace flexible work. In his recent book, How the Future Works , Brian provides a blue...

A Bad Deal: What Higher Education Is Costing Our Society | Phillip Brown 06.08.2024

Hundreds of thousands of college graduates were promised that more learning meant more earning – but they’re now facing a harsh new reality. AI, outsourcing, and a shifting economy have created an oversupply of educated workers, leading to widespread feelings of betrayal and crushing student debt. Human capital is not delivering on its promise. Phillip Brown, a distinguished sociologist, author, a...

Nourishment for the Soul: The Sacred Power of Ritual in Work and Life | Tiu de Haan, Revisited 02.08.2024

We tend to use the word ritual to talk about everyday routines. For instance, we have our ritualistic cup of coffee in the morning. But rituals are much more than just repetitive actions. True rituals carry deep meaning, emotion, and a promise of transformation. As a professional ritual designer, Tiu De Haan has designed rituals in countless forms. She took on the heavy task of designing a ritual...

Ashley Goodall: Life in the Blender, Surviving the Chaos of Modern Workplaces 30.07.2024

In the modern workplace, constant change is the norm. One week, teams are navigating a new project management system; the next, they need to adapt to a new organizational chart. Even office layouts seem to change overnight to match the company’s latest pivot. While change may be the new normal, leadership expert Ashley Goodall questions its true benefits. In his latest book, The Problem with Chang...

Seth Godin, Revisited: We Are in a Race to the Bottom. Wake Up, and Shake Off Your Indoctrination! 25.07.2024

Industrial capitalism has treated workers like marionettes breaking down work into discreet, disconnected, repeatable actions. It loves uniformity and people who do what they're told. Seth Godin’s new book, The Song of Significance ,  challenges us to break free of these limiting mental models, many of which are still baked into how we work. Seth Godin is an author, entrepreneur, and marketin...

B Lab Co-founder: We Are in a Culture War About the Purpose of Business | Bart Houlahan 23.07.2024

The last two financial crises resulted in recessions, financial market instability, and high unemployment rates, but one group of companies proved resilient. Benefit Corporations – businesses that balance profit with social and environmental impact – experienced crisis attrition rates of less than 5%. Bart Houlahan, a co-founder of B Lab, joins Work for Humans to share why companies that invest in...

WorkShift: Creating a Movement for More Just and Equitable Labor Systems | Rebecca Sanderson 16.07.2024

Most of us have preconceived notions about work, workers and employment that are so fundamental to how we think that we don’t notice them.  The thing is, such preconceptions shape how large parts of society understand and solve problems. So when a problem is poorly framed, some potentially great solutions can’t be heard.  In a previous episode we heard from Nathanial Kendall Taylor, CEO of the Fra...

Unschooling: Redefining Learning for Humans One Conversation at a Time | Christine Renaud 09.07.2024

Christine Renaud always felt destined to be a teacher, but after training in education, she came to a disturbing realization – traditional schools were not created to develop students effectively. Determined to better support students’ learning, growth, and happiness, Christine founded Braindate, a pioneering technology company that has created transformative conversations and experiences for over...

Beyond Marx: A Modern Vision for Economic Democracy, Labor Contracts, and Employee-Owned Cooperatives | David Ellerman 02.07.2024

Despite their revolutionary zeal, followers of Marx have failed to create real economic democracies, frequently ending up with one-party systems that mirror the capitalist structures they sought to overthrow. A compelling alternative exists: a modern vision for economic democracy and employee-owned cooperatives. By examining the historical missteps and unveiling innovative approaches, we discover...

Confronting Techno-Optimism: Why Technology Struggles to Create Meaningful Social Change | Kentaro Toyama 25.06.2024

Kentaro Toyama spent a decade designing technologies to fight global poverty and improve education and health. As co-founder of Microsoft Research India lab, he made a troubling discovery – innovative technologies can’t create change on their own. Realizing that social progress depends more on people than on the technology they use, Kentaro became a self-proclaimed “geek heretic” who now teaches o...

Exploring the Paradoxes of Life and Work With CD Baby Founder Derek Sivers 18.06.2024

Work for Humans wants to understand what people want from work – but every perspective is different. One person’s dream job is another person’s nightmare, making it challenging to define fulfilling work. Derek Sivers captures this struggle in his book, How to Live , which presents 27 drastically different yet equally valid life views. Through his work, Derek guides others in shaping their own mean...

Paul Zak: What Measuring 50,000 Brains Taught Me About Building Highly Engaged Workplaces 11.06.2024

Paul Zak has been on a quest for two decades to understand the neuroscience of human connection, human happiness, and effective teamwork. From the Pentagon to Fortune 500 boardrooms to the rainforest of Papua New Guinea, Paul’s research has now led him to found Immersion Neuroscience, the first company to track and measure real-time immersion in experiences. His latest book, Immersion , uses 50,00...

Matt Higgins, Revisited: Burn the Boats, How Plan B Holds You and Your Company Back From Achieving Your Potential 04.06.2024

Matt Higgins was a struggling teen, working at McDonald’s for $3.75/hr to put food on the table for his ailing mother. When he saw the pay increase offered to college students, he decided to do something unorthodox; he dropped out of high school, got his GED, and enrolled in college. Adults tried to talk him out of it, but Matt knew this was the right choice for him. This was Matt's first &qu...

Design Lessons From IDEOU: Using Human-Centered Systems Thinking to Solve Complex Problems | Deirdre Cerminaro 28.05.2024

Work for Humans host Dart Lindsley experienced a distressing moment in the hospital when his father was left in a wheelchair facing a wall while awaiting radiology. This small but significant oversight in the hospital's system pointed to an issue in many major systems – a lack of human-centered care. Recognizing these widespread oversights, design and strategy expert Deirdre Cerminaro seeks t...

The Transformation Economy: Transforming Customer Lives Is the Final Tier of Economic Value | Joe Pine 21.05.2024

Joe Pine has a knack for seeing workplace trends ahead of others. As a co-founder of Strategic Horizons LLP, he has helped organizations innovatively increase economic value for over three decades. Joe is a pioneer behind the experience economy , and he is now trailblazing the concept of a transformation economy in his latest book. Join us as we discuss the fifth and final economic offering and ho...

Shaping Work Futures: Using the Present to Create a More Promising Future of Work | Reanna Browne 14.05.2024

Many people offer predictions about the future of work, but only a handful are trained futurists who know how to influence that future effectively. Reanna Browne stands out by making the future of work her specialty. With a thorough academic background and a decade of experience in strategic foresight, Reanna guides public, private, and start-up companies in navigating change, cultivating resilien...

HR and Tech: Revolutionizing Employee Experience Through HR-Tech Synergy | Marlene de Koning 07.05.2024

Artificial intelligence technologies are transforming our world, with innovations like LLMs and VR becoming part of everyday life and the workplace. Marlene de Koning, HR tech and experience expert, sees an opportunity to enhance employee well-being by improving how we use these technologies at work, bridging the gap between technology and business strategy. Marlene de Koning is the author of HR T...

Biology, Buddhism and AI: Placing Mindfulness Principles at the Heart of Innovation | Bill Duane 30.04.2024

Bill Duane has been navigating complex situations since he was a child, but facing his father’s death as an adult created an experience that he didn’t have an answer for. Trying to come to terms with his situation, Bill realized that what he needed wasn’t more safety – it was more meaning. Through his exploration of diverse disciplines like Buddhism and AI, Bill is now able to help other companies...

SafetyWing: Creating a Global Social Safety Net to Equalize Opportunity and Freedom | Adrian Salazar 23.04.2024

Losing your job in the U.S. means more than losing your income. It often means losing access to crucial medications and healthcare. Adrian Salazar, the Head of Culture and Integrity at SafetyWing, advocates for a shift away from fear-driven work decisions. Through his role, he is actively involved in creating a social safety net and the first-ever internet-based country for workers around the glob...

Longpath: An Antidote to the Short-Termism Plaguing Our Companies and Culture | Ari Wallach 16.04.2024

For hundreds of years, Western culture has emphasized individualism, mirrored by many companies’ focus on quarterly profits. After seeing the limitations of this short-term thinking, futurist Ari Wallach decided to forge a new path through Longpath Labs. By focusing on generational empathy, Longpath’s work connects with past generations while simultaneously creating a legacy for future ones, foste...

The Modern CPO: How I Revolutionized Employee Experience Across 60 Countries and 6000 Employees | Elena Aylott 09.04.2024

When Elena Aylott was asked to lead Global Communications and Employee Experience at Oriflame Cosmetics, she was disillusioned with the traditional, administrative focus of HR. Recognizing the opportunity to drive real change, Elena accepted the role and worked to shift Oriflame towards a new approach. By initiating change and focusing on human-centered work, Elena revolutionized the global employ...

Unpacking Collective Trauma: What Is It, and How Does It Show up in Our Organizations? | Thomas Huebl 02.04.2024

Thomas Huebl has firsthand experience with the deep-rooted nature of collective trauma. From engaging with Israeli descendants of Holocaust survivors to coaching executives at international firms, he understands just how deeply ingrained collective trauma is in society. For over 20 years, Thomas has been dedicated to leading dialogues on collective trauma across generations, professions, and cultu...

The State of Work: Are People Happier at Work Than We’ve Been Led to Believe? | Juliana Horowitz 26.03.2024

In a world where headlines often drown out research and analysis, the Pew Research Center stands out through its comprehensive studies and analyses. From demographics to societal issues, Associate Director of Research Juliana Horowitz helps us explore the facts behind American workplace trends. Dr. Juliana Horowitz is the Associate Director of Research at Pew Research Center. She has over fifteen...

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