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Almost everyone is navigating at least one hard relationship. But not every hard relationship is the same — and knowing the difference changes everything. In this episode, Pattie Krohn and Paige Payne reframe the conversation from boundaries to wise love, welcome a guest who shares their personal journey through a difficult relationship, and explore what it looks like to walk alongside someone who...

Anger is not what we are — it is a language of the heart. And conflict is the ground anger grows in. In this episode, Pattie Krohn and Paige Payne get honest about their own experiences with anger, welcome a guest who shares their personal story, and explore what it looks like to walk alongside someone locked in conflict — without rushing to fix, without taking sides, and without looking away. "Be...

Grief is not a problem to be solved but an honest journey; a human response to love and loss — and it matters deeply to God. In this episode, Pattie Krohn and Paige Payne share from their own experiences of grief, welcome guests who open up about profound loss, and explore what it looks like to stay with someone who is mourning — without minimizing, without rushing, and without looking away. "Jesu...

A note before you listen: this episode covers depression and suicidal ideation honestly and directly. If you are in a vulnerable place, please listen with someone you trust nearby. Depression is not merely sadness. It is something darker and more stubborn — a fierce darkness that touches the body, the mind, relationships, and the soul. In this episode, Pattie Krohn and Paige Payne name what depres...

Guilt says I did something wrong. Shame says I am something wrong. They feel different, work differently, and need to be heard differently — and both are far more common than we talk about. In this episode, Pattie Krohn and Paige Payne get personal about what guilt and shame have felt like in their own lives, welcome a guest who shares their own story, and explore what it looks like to walk alongs...

Fear and anxiety are not necessarily signs of weak faith — they are often honest responses to living in a world that is uncertain and out of our control. In this episode, Pattie Krohn and Paige Payne get honest about their own experiences with anxiety, welcome a guest who shares their personal story, and explore what it looks like to walk alongside someone caught in fear's grip — without fixing, w...

No one escapes suffering — and, yet, if we are honest, we are surprised when it happens to us. In this opening episode, Pattie Krohn and Paige Payne share from their own broken places: a child's devastating diagnosis, years of recurrent pregnancy loss, and the long, dark seasons that followed. They explore what it means to receive care in the middle of real pain, what it looks like to offer it to...